Free Agency Draft - R1 - Square vs durantbird*

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Which team wins?

Poll ended at Fri Jul 18, 2025 1:03 pm

Square
5
45%
durantbird
6
55%
 
Total votes: 11

durantbird
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Free Agency Draft - R1 - Square vs durantbird* 

Post#1 » by durantbird » Wed Jul 16, 2025 8:05 pm

Here is a quick list of what you need in your writeup.

1. Specific years for each player on your team
2. Rotations and minutes for each player
3. Reasoning as to why your team will win and/or why people should vote for you.

Do not vote in this thread until both managers have submitted their writeups. Once the writeups are posted, I will add a poll, and the team with the most votes after 24 hours will advance. EACH MANAGER SHOULD ALSO VOTE FOR THEIR OWN TEAM IN THE POLL - IF YOU FAIL TO DO THIS, YOU ARE SIMPLY GIVING AWAY A VOTE. If the votes are tied, we will decide the matchup via AI vote.

You are not required to state or explain your vote, but you are free to comment in the thread if you want to.

If writeups aren't posted within 24 hours, we will vote solely based on the players they have drafted (and any rotations they have posted on their roster page).


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Re: Free Agency Draft - R1 - Square vs durantbird 

Post#2 » by durantbird » Thu Jul 17, 2025 5:38 am

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PG: Tyrese Haliburton 25' - 13.8
SG: Jrue Holiday 21' - 13.9
SF: Paul George 18' - 17.0
PF: Kevin Durant 17' - 16.5
C: Rudy Gobert 24' - 8.1

Bench: Tayshaun Prince 03' - 3.0
Bench: Harrison Barnes 15' - 8.0
Bench: Serge Ibaka 12' - 7.4

Rotation:
PG: Tyrese Haliburton 38 / Jrue Holiday 10
SG: Jrue Holiday 28 / Paul George 14 / Tasyhaun Prince 6
SF: Paul George 24 / Harrison Barnes 18 / Prince 4 / Durant 2
PF: Kevin Durant 36 / Serge Ibaka 12
C: Rudy Gobert 34 / Serge Ibaka 14

87.7/88

Vs

G Middleton 38 / Lebron 10
G Butler 38 / GP2 10
F Lebron 30 / GP2 10 / Miller 8
F Holmgren 20 / Odom 28
C Turner 34 / Holmgren 14

Matchup
- Defensive Assignments (straight up): Haliburton on Middleton, Holiday on Butler, George on LeBron, Durant on Holmgren, Gobert on Turner.
- We match up well across the board. Haliburton is a solid defender who proved in the 2025 playoffs that targeting him doesn't yield much. Middleton, on the other hand, has a heavier defensive stride—more in the Paul Pierce mold—and isn't suited to stay with a fast-paced, shifty guard like Haliburton. That matchup tilts in our favor.

Between Haliburton, George, Durant, and Holiday, there’s no soft spot to rest a weaker defender or conserve a star. Butler is probably their best point-of-attack option, but he can’t guard all three perimeter threats. If he takes Durant, who checks Haliburton? Middleton can’t chase him. If he’s on George, they’re giving Durant a more favorable matchup. If he guards Haliburton, it stretches him across screens and tempo all game long. Chet Holmgren may end up forced into perimeter coverage more than he’s comfortable with, chasing switches and closing out on elite shooters. Their defensive puzzle doesn’t quite fit without compromising somewhere—and Haliburton will quickly expose that.

- Our Haliburton–George–Durant core creates a smooth, high-IQ offensive engine. There's pace, spacing, and unselfish shot creation. Holiday complements perfectly as a secondary creator and elite catch-and-shoot threat. Compared to that, LeBron and Butler—both ball-dominant wings who thrive in similar areas—have overlapping roles that can stall the offense when things tighten up. Trying to incorporate Odom into that action creates even higher congestion. We’ve also got four shooters around Gobert, whose vertical gravity gives Haliburton an easy outlet when defenses overplay. That’s a nightmare to cover when you can’t help off anyone.

- Pace, Identity, and Synergy:
We open with two guards, but looking at the full rotation, the teams are structurally similar—both carry size and versatility across the board especially when considering the bench. The difference lies in how we use it. Our advantage is Haliburton's fast-paced, pass-first offense, which thrives with elite spacing and quick decision-makers. With George and Durant flanking him and Gobert pulling defenders toward the rim, it becomes overwhelming. This system knocks opponents off balance before they can get set.
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Re: Free Agency Draft - R1 - Square vs durantbird 

Post#3 » by Square » Thu Jul 17, 2025 12:48 pm

Team Square

Roster
G/F Gary Payton II '22: 15/7/2/3/1 per 36 on 62 FG% and 36 3FG%, +4 BPM (+7 Playoffs), NBA Champ
F/G Khris Middleton '20: 21/6/4 on 50/42/92 shooting, +4 BPM, All-Star
F/G Lebron James '17: 26/9/9 on 62 TS%, (Playoffs 33/9/8), +8 BPM, +10 Playoff BPM, 5th in DPoY, All-NBA 1st
F/G Mike Miller '15: had a pet monkey
F/G Jimmy Butler '23: 23/6/5/2 on 54/35/85 shooting, (Playoffs 27/7/6), +9 BPM, All-NBA 2nd
F Lamar Odom '09: 11/8/3/1/1, 32 3P%, 2nd in NBA in RAPM, NBA Champ
F/C Chet Holmgren '24: 17/8/2/2/1 on 53/37/79 shooting, +3 BPM
C Myles Turner '25: 16/7/2/2/1 on 48/40/77 shooting


Picks, FGA, etc.:
Spoiler:
Round 1: Lebron (Cleveland, 18.2) + Butler (Miami, 13.9)
Round 2: Middleton (Milwaukee, 15.3) + Turner (Indiana, 11.3)
Round 3: Holmgren (OKC, 11.6) + GP2 (GSW, 4.8)
Round 4: Odom (LAL, 9.0) + Miller (Cleveland, 2.2->3.0)

Total FGA: 87.9


Rotation:
G Middleton 38 / Lebron 10
G Butler 38 / GP2 10
F Lebron 30 / GP2 10 / Miller 8
F Holmgren 18 / Odom 30
C Turner 34 / Holmgren 14

About Team Square:
The goal was to build an absolutely huge team around Lebron without sacrificing skill, and I think we got there. Physicality, shooting, defense. Guys who have come up big in the playoffs.

Offensively, we have shooting to space the floor around Lebron and Playoff Jimmy attacking the rim. Butler's cutting and quick seals and Middleton's shooting make them both great secondary offensive options next to Lebron, and our bigs invert the floor to tie opposing defenses in knots guarding Lebron. Guards get mercilessly attacked by our size and physicality. Odom gives another huge and creative playmaker off the bench.

Defensively, our perimeter is huge and nasty and we have two high level shot-blockers to clean up messes.

Vs. durantbird:
Just quick points here:
  • Lebron is a level above anyone else in this matchup. The fit with him + Butler and all that shooting seems pretty ideal to me.
  • We have a size advantage at almost every position.
  • Despite the "protesting too much" about Haliburton's defense in db's writeup, he is definitely a guy that we can and will attack. This version of Lebron is a specialist at eviscerating weak defensive guards.
  • Gobert will have issues defensively getting pulled out to the perimeter with our shooting bigs.
  • Defensive matchups seem fine to me. Chet is fine with hanging out on weaker-shooting perimeter guys like Holiday or Prince for a time; the Thunder have done this often and super successfully. But also keep in mind that Ibaka plays about as many minutes as Chet does so it's partly just a shell game of who comes off the bench and who starts.
  • Overall, I don't think he is strong enough defensively to handle us. We've seen Gobert struggle against shooting bigs, and he's never faced prime Lebron/Butler in this way.
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Re: Free Agency Draft - R1 - Square vs durantbird 

Post#4 » by durantbird » Thu Jul 17, 2025 1:04 pm

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Re: Free Agency Draft - R1 - Square vs durantbird 

Post#5 » by durantbird » Fri Jul 18, 2025 6:58 pm

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