Build a team 1995 Round 1: Writeups Due MIDNIGHT EST Sunday

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Re: Build a team 1995 Round 1: Writeups Due MIDNIGHT EST Sunday 

Post#61 » by CellarDoor » Tue May 11, 2010 1:05 pm

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Snakebites wrote:I am completely confused as to why Penny is included in the evidence for Tmac against pen.


I fixed it, I had ICE and TMAC's guys mixed up in my notes. If you read it completely i mentionded JKidd in ICE's writeup as well. It should be fixed!

PS: I love pen rebutting the voting, great job man, I wish my opponents bothered with rebuttals (or even a writeup)

and as for Chuck starting at SF, that was because they pretended to start a C (I think Joe Kline averaged like 13 min a game (so for the first 6.5 min of games Chuck was a SF, not the entire game). 80% of the game they ran with AC at the C position and played small ball.


If you'd like me to rebut your write-up, alright then. Let me find it. It's just too late for me to do it in good conscience and have it matter.
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Re: Build a team 1995 Round 1: Writeups Due MIDNIGHT EST Sunday 

Post#62 » by Snakebites » Tue May 11, 2010 1:38 pm

You can write something up if you like.

Those who voted against you on the basis of no writeup can't change their votes, though.
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Re: Build a team 1995 Round 1: Writeups Due MIDNIGHT EST Sunday 

Post#63 » by CellarDoor » Tue May 11, 2010 1:51 pm

I think my opponent built a pretty solid team that fits in well together, but I just think my TEAM is better at almost all aspects of the game. I think not having a play making PG or a scoring PF will hurt him in this series. Yes Pippen and Vlade are great playmakers, but both were basically career 2nd options and played off of another superstar. I playmaker at the point or a better scoring BIG would have really improved their team (in my opinion). I think I just have too much balance and spacing to go with the best defenve team in the entire game.[/quote]

PG: Blaylock was a relentless defender...on-ball. He picked a lot of pockets. He played the lanes too, but not nearly to the extent you'd need him to do to be effective. It's also worth noting that with superb passers at almost every position, there aren't going to be many bad passes to pick off when Horny's in the game. When AJ comes in, he'll be the one with the ball initiating the offense, and he's not easy to force into TOs. BTW, Horny also pulled in 2 steals a game in the given season. Playing next to John Stockton, that's not a terribly easy feat. Further, BOTH of my point guards were more efficient than yours, and my team isn't relying on a double not coming into the post, so spacing isn't something I need at every position. When Avery is in, imagine the current Celtics offense, only my PF being the inept one (Perkins) with my C being the mid-post passer (Divac)

SG: The funny thing about chucking, it's only a bad thing when you're not using your posessions well. 55% is nothing to sneeze at, and the funny thing about their up-tempo team...they were only 6th in pace in this season. What this match-up comes down to is Phills bringing down Hawkins amazing efficiency (sub 48% TS compared to Hawkins over 62%) Measured against the effect you think the two will have defensively on Jackson. I think you're going to find him difficult to contain with Zo on Divac for a large portion of the game, and the help they're used to having behind them being late or nonexistent.

SF: Kudos on the gloss over. And Hill wasn't a cloan of Pippen. Ever. He wasn't a good man defender until post-injury, and he's NEVER been the weakside defender Pip was. Pippen will outplay him pretty well the entire series, not because he's better offensively, though when we're talking rookie hill, he is a bit better, but because of the player and team one another is going against. Zo is a huge presence, but he's somewhat restricted by Divac and Hill isn't the sort of guy to slow anyone down at this point. On the other side you have, along with Rodman and Bobby Jones, the GOAT defender at the SF position with a good help defender in Divac behind him.

PF: I actually think this is the most irrelevant position in this series, though my opponent seems to disagree. Dino's the better scorer and rebounder (though scoring is close), while Laettner is, for the one and only time ever, the better defender. Meanwhile, Thorpe isn't even close to what you'd call a volume scorer and is being played by Brown, a very good defender. The only things that discourages me here is I can't really put PJ out there and let him play safety and help on D thanks to the jumpers, and he has an efficiency advantage. Given that this is both team's fifth options though (I guess Christian might be 4th?), I'll live with that.

C: Zo is absolutely the better player in a vacuum here, but I see him running into a few problems here:
-is young Alonzo disciplined enough to stay with his man away from the basket and not go for the block on the weakside?
-can young Zo handle Vlade's get-under-your-skin style?
-can his jumper be enough of a threat to keep Vlade off the weakside glass and help defense?

I think the answer to two is yes, but one and three will prove difficult for him. It's also worth noting Alonzo is going to give up a lot on the glass to both of my guys who are flat out better rebounders. That problem only gets exacerbated when Laettner and Big George come in.

X-Factor: Experience-
Pippen was a 3-time Champion, Perdue was a 3-time Champion, Avery was in his 7th season and established as a terrific leader. On the opponent's side you have a rookie Hill and a 3rd year Mourning as your best players while Laettner, Phils, Smith, etc are all pretty weak in the experience department themselves. Can more quiet guys like Thorpe keep the team steady in pressure situations, or can the young guys rise on their own?

I see the series over in 6.
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Re: Build a team 1995 Round 1: Writeups Due MIDNIGHT EST Sunday 

Post#64 » by CellarDoor » Tue May 11, 2010 1:52 pm

Snakebites wrote:You can write something up if you like.

Those who voted against you on the basis of no writeup can't change their votes, though.


I'd actually prefer to be judged in the future without reading it honestly. I dropped the ball, and got too busy to notice I did even. I'd just like to placate Sam's fit of rage as best I can :)
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Re: Build a team 1995 Round 1: Writeups Due MIDNIGHT EST Sunday 

Post#65 » by penbeast0 » Tue May 11, 2010 4:40 pm

SamBone wrote:
Snakebites wrote:I am completely confused as to why Penny is included in the evidence for Tmac against pen.


I fixed it, I had ICE and TMAC's guys mixed up in my notes. If you read it completely i mentionded JKidd in ICE's writeup as well. It should be fixed!

PS: I love pen rebutting the voting, great job man, I wish my opponents bothered with rebuttals (or even a writeup)

and as for Chuck starting at SF, that was because they pretended to start a C (I think Joe Kline averaged like 13 min a game (so for the first 6.5 min of games Chuck was a SF, not the entire game). 80% of the game they ran with AC at the C position and played small ball.


Yes, Kleine and Schayes played about 23 mpg on the average -- half the game -- and they played small ball for the rest. We have a top center so we don't do it nearly as much but we plan to use the Buck and Chuck lineup with Buck Williams (or AC Green), Barkley, Mario Elie , Reggie (or Kenny Smith), and Nate McMillan as one of our basic sets since I don't think Buck and AC together add much to each other's skill sets. This is one of our top offensive lineup so we bring it in when the opponents line up without a big inside scoring threat (ie, when Hakeem or Webber go to the bench).
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Re: Build a team 1995 Round 1: Writeups Due MIDNIGHT EST Sunday 

Post#66 » by Miller4ever » Tue May 11, 2010 7:23 pm

Snakebites wrote:^If I could give you a negative vote right now, I totally would. :evil:


I'm just pointing out your weaknesses cause you pointed out mine.
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Re: Build a team 1995 Round 1: Writeups Due MIDNIGHT EST Sunday 

Post#67 » by Snakebites » Wed May 12, 2010 3:20 am

Is anybody else planning on voting? :-?
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Re: Build a team 1995 Round 1: Writeups Due MIDNIGHT EST Sunday 

Post#68 » by Miller4ever » Wed May 12, 2010 6:40 am

I'll get the vote out, just sorting some things out and I'll make judgements.
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Re: Build a team 1995 Round 1: Writeups Due MIDNIGHT EST Sunday 

Post#69 » by Snakebites » Fri May 14, 2010 7:32 am

Was hoping for a couple more votes.

If by 8 EST tomorrow nobody else has voted the current tallies will stand and the final 4 will commence.

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