Doin' Work GM-A-Team Discussion

[-Kees-]

Another one newbie question from me:

In the rankings, everybody can vote, or only those, who play are able to vote?

In the past, we have only had players in the game, that submitted writeups vote.

[-Kees-]

Another one newbie question from me:

In the rankings, everybody can vote, or only those, who play are able to vote?

In the past, we have only had players in the game, that submitted writeups vote.

It would be interesting to see an outsiders vote though.

[MadNESS]

Another one newbie question from me:

In the rankings, everybody can vote, or only those, who play are able to vote?

In the past, we have only had players in the game, that submitted writeups vote.

It would be interesting to see an outsiders vote though.

Do it. We've had outsiders before it helped alot. But make sure you take your time and soak everything in first

[lukekarts]

It's good to have outsiders vote as there's (in theory) no bias, but very hard to get anyone who isn't playing the game to show much interest.

[nikkoewan]

Look, i understand the job i did wasn't the best, and i expected being ranked anywhere between 7 and 11. but to be ranked 13 because of "injury" concerns on Paul and 15 only because of Oden? WOW. FYI,

Paul has lost a step, yes. Paul's not as explosive or as quick as he was, yes. But this season should prove to everybody that, even when he's lost those, is still the best PG in the game HANDS DOWN. Even when adjusting to his new limitations, CP3 was still very smart and crafty. He used guile more than athleticism and still got the job done. 13.9 Wins contributed for a team with 46 wins? that's 30% of his teams TOTAL wins. and just so everybody knows, not counting last season, CP3 has ONLY missed 26 games in 5 years. Even if you add last year, 63 games in 6 years or 10 games every year. Meanwhile, Deron has missed 41 games in 6 years. that's a difference of 3 games PER YEAR. CP3s injury was a PARTIALLY torn meniscus, and if i remember correctly, what doctors did was tear the cartilage that was dangling(in lay man terms anyway) and allowed the knee to heal.

Lastly, i understand the injury risks from Oden. Its the reason i got Asik, who can play as many as 24 minutes(IMO) , then Love and Mcdyess can just absorb the other 18 minutes. Its not a huge downgrade, even with Oden injured; CP3, Pierce and Love still are enough to make a playoff team. The problem of my team is at C, but its not like its a HUGE problem.

[MadNESS]

Okay look:

EDIT**** Outta 14 rankings this is were I stand.

1st
1st
2nd
2nd
2nd
2nd
2nd
4th
4th
5th
5th
8th
8th
16th?

The object of the game is to improve your roster as best you can.
The object of the game is not who has the best team.

You can ask anyone from the past; sambone, rocdogg, tmac, bryant08, generally when there a trend going and then a huge discrepincy in a set of rankings you throw it out. Just saying that a 16 ranking should be thrown out. That's just perposterous.

[NBA Champs]

I wasn't going to say anything at all throughout this process, but now I will. There is just too much damn crybabying going on during this process. Everyone, please "MAN THE F*** UP" and respect peoples opinions. That is all.

[Tully305]

For future games, I'd like to see a developed scorecard that we rate how the GM's did in different areas:

Draft
Free Agency
Salary Cap
Roster Changes
Trades
Overall score
etc.

We could have scores of 1-5 or 1-10 in each category. Scoring is still somewhat subjective, but I think it might give GM's a better idea of what other GM's thought they did well/didn't do well.

[SamBone]

I wasn't going to say anything at all throughout this process, but now I will. There is just too much damn crybabying going on during this process. Everyone, please "MAN THE F*** UP" and respect peoples opinions. That is all.

I honestly do not think anyone is being a cry baby. Ness has been playing these games forever,and ranking is the biggest issue with this game.

Using my team as an example,

How can the same team be ranked 2,3,5,6,7,7,8,10,10,11,12, and 16 ?

by no means am I being a "crybaby" but that is simply a joke. Some people use agendas in their rankings (please grow up) others simply do not care. I try my best to explain why I rank the teams were i do. No hidden agendas, simply my opinions.

we used to have "win now" and "win future" and that worked well before people started to bitch. Then we went "best overall" which also worked very well for a game or 2, but this game is simply gotten stupid, which is the main reason most of the skilled vets of this game have stepped away. No idea why myself, ICE, luke, and ness still keep playing!

Someone needs to figure out how to make the game better instead of trying to see how quickly we can get another one going, or how many co commishes we can get involved. Simply take a step back, talk to some of the vets that know what they are going (tmac, rocdogg, miller, snake, mj, bryant) and try to get them back involved. Mixing them with some of the new guys that really do a solid job and figuring out a better ranking system, would really help the game

[NBA Champs]

^^^All your opinion, but it doesn't change the fact that my opinion is my own opinion. Now if some "experienced committee" would like to eliminate those who have their own opinions and who aren't "sheep" then be my guess. After all that has been said since my rankings have been posted, I would re-evaluate all 18 teams again and rank them all the exact same way. Thanks.

[SamBone]

dude, that is not what i ment. I agree that everyone has their own opinion. my point is that with soo many different opinions, a better solution needs to be found to rank teams. I was not saying anything about your ranking, or how you ranked anybody at all. Just pointing out that the "system" needs to be fixed

[MadNESS]

My name is bness888 and I support sambones add. ; )

[-Kees-]

For future games, I'd like to see a developed scorecard that we rate how the GM's did in different areas:

Draft
Free Agency
Salary Cap
Roster Changes
Trades
Overall score
etc.

We could have scores of 1-5 or 1-10 in each category. Scoring is still somewhat subjective, but I think it might give GM's a better idea of what other GM's thought they did well/didn't do well.

I really like that idea.

[MadNESS]

Also, the first post on this page has been edited, another first, second, and 2 fourth place voets have been submitted for the bobcats. Sounds like a trend to me.....

[Blazer50]

If you don't like the scoring in this game, wait for then next one when you will be getting graded on draft picks that have just graduated from High School - or Euro's we've never heard of. Enjoy the game for what it is and don't sweat the opinions - which everyone has!

[Karmaloop]

dude, that is not what i ment. I agree that everyone has their own opinion. my point is that with soo many different opinions, a better solution needs to be found to rank teams. I was not saying anything about your ranking, or how you ranked anybody at all. Just pointing out that the "system" needs to be fixed

The problem is that you can't please everybody. You can only look to please the majority. There were too many teams being chosen right away with the "win now" and "win later" titles, so we dropped to best overall.

[Karmaloop]

Also, the first post on this page has been edited, another first, second, and 2 fourth place voets have been submitted for the bobcats. Sounds like a trend to me.....

We get it. There is a couple that seem a bit low, but remember everyone is entitled to their opinion regardless of how wacky it might or might not be. Just let it go.

[Warriorfan]

I like the idea of a one to five scoring system We can also do what they do in the Olympic Gymnastics and throw out the best and worst scores to get rid of the outliers

[Karmaloop]

10-15 trades is way too few for as many different trading periods there are. I can understand if you say 10-15 per trade period, but definitely not overall. Plus, I'm not convinced that these trade limits will keep people active, in fact I'm afraid it'll do just the opposite.