Here is a quick list of what you need in your writeup.
1. Specific years for each player on your team 2. Rotations and minutes for each player 3. Reasoning as to why your team will win and/or why people should vote for you.
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26.2 ppg, 13.3 ppg, 3.9 apg, 1.2 spg, 3.2 bpg, .579 FG%, .701 FT%, .608 TS%, 27.8 PER - Led the NBA in FG%, PER, OWS (11.9), DWS (5.9), WS (17.8), WS/48 (.283), OBPM (7.7), BPM (10.8), VORP (9.7) - NBA MVP - NBA All-Star - All-NBA First Team - All-Defensive Second Team
7.1 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 1.4 apg, 0.8 spg, 0.5 bpg, .466 FG%, .441 3P%, .404 FT%, 101 3P, .563 TS%, 9.1 PER - Led the NBA in 3P% - NBA Champion - NBA All-Defensive Second Team
PG - Jason Kidd (1998-99)
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16.9 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 10.8 apg, 2.3 spg, 0.4 bpg, .444 FG%, .365 3P%, .757 FT%, 45 3P*, .527 TS%, 22.5 PER - Led the NBA in apg, VORP (4.1) - All-NBA First Team - All-Defensive First Team *Lockout season
15.2 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 2.7 apg, 1.0 spg, 0.8 bpg, .588 FG%, .782 FT%, .651 TS%, 17.6 PER - NBA Champion - NBA Finals MVP
G - Patrick Beverley (2016-17)
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9.5 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 4.2 apg, 1.5 spg, 0.4 bpg, .420 FG%, .382 3P%, .768 FT%, 110 3P, .546 TS%, 13.0 PER - All-Defensive First Team
Rotations C - Abdul-Jabbar (40), Withey (8) PF - Wallace (36), Lewis (12) SF - Lewis (24), Maxwell (24) SG - Bowen (32), Beverley (16) PG - Kidd (39), Beverley (9)
Writeup
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This team is built around the unstoppable force that is peak Kareem and the all-round brilliance of J-Kidd. Kareem is surrounded by proficient outside shooters in Sheed, Shard, and Bowen, with even Kidd hitting a solid percentage in the chosen season. Although we don't have another elite scorer, we do have several players capable of giving you 20-30 on any given night (including Finals MVP Maxwell coming off the bench), especially with Kareem drawing doubles down low. Our bench is tremendous with Maxwell and Beverley both giving us a leg up over any second unit in this game. KAJ as the anchor flanked by Kidd, Sheed, Bowen, and Beverley makes for a nasty defense.
Matchup Specific Kareem vs. Hakeem is the headline matchup, and they seem to be pretty much neck-and-neck overall. I think we can win some battles elsewhere that will help us win the war.
First of all, we have an elite defensive backcourt of Kidd and Bowen to throw at roddy's main creators Porter and Manu. Both those guys are excellent players but we feel like we can hamper their efficiency a fair bit when we have two of the best perimeter defenders of all time applying pressure all game long.
Second, our frontcourt support for Kareem is stronger. Hayward and Rashard are pretty much the same level of player and there will be some give-and-take there, but Sheed is a couple levels above Ibaka. Then off the bench, Horry is a very good role player but Maxwell is a guy who was the #2 or #3 option on multiple elite Celtics teams.
It seems like sometimes scoring depth is discounted if you don't have a second superstar, but with four players who averaged 15-20 ppg (including one of the greatest PGs ever running the show) around peak Kareem, as well as our stifling defense, we believe we have more than enough firepower to take this one.
C: Hakeem Olajuwon 38 min / Tyson chandler 10 min Pf: Serge Ibaka 38 min / Robert Horry 10 min Sf: Gordon Hayward 38 min / Robert Horry 10 min Sg: Manu Ginobili 35 min / Terry Porter 13 min Pg: Terry Porter 23 min / Rajon Rondo 25 min
Good Luck Fade, Nice team, I had you in my top 4 but I'm probably going to loose but I see some weakness with your team so i'm going down swinging
General things about my team
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This roster is perfect for Hakeem Olajuwon. Elite wings, multiple elite threepoint shooters and 4 elite passers/ playmakers. Hakeem can't be double teamed and Manu at his peak was roasting elite defenses in the playoffs like the Pistons. When Manu and Terry sit then Peak Rondo makes sure everyone gets the ball in their hands. Lastly Everyone of my stars are at their peaks, I am not using some legends playing on their last legs.
The Defense will be really good. Hakeem is one of the best defenders alltime and he and Serge will have over 7 blocks per game. Everyone else is a good defender with Gordon Hayward being the only average one
Matchup
Defensive mathcup Hakeem guards Kareem Serge Guards Rasheed Gordon guards Rashard Manu guards Bowen he almost only shoots corner threes so he should be really easy to guard Terry Porter guards Kidd also non scoring threat so not worried here
Offense
Hakeem surrounded by elite threepoint shooting wings and eltie passers/playmakers.
Why I should win
I think my offense will be much better than Fade's and here are the reasons. Jason Kidd has never led his teams to high ranking offense during his prime and he doesn't play well of the ball. Bowen is an elite threepoint shooter but he is not like Danny Green that is dangerous everywhere and can run around screens, Bowen pretty much only shoots corner threes making him really predictable and easy to guard Bruce Bowen shot chart vs Danny Green's shot chart
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Bruce shot chart Danny Green shot chart
My team has way better passing overall, yes Kidd is an elite passer but Bowen only has 1.4 assists pg, Rashard has 2.3 and Rasheed has 2.3 and all of Fade's bench players combined have 7 assists. So when Kidd sits it's Beverly getting everyone involved with his 4 assists per game. So I don't see the ball passed around much between teammates. The only other good passer is Kareem.
I feel like the ball movement will be much better on my team. With Terry Porter's 8 assists pg, Manu 3.9, Gordon 3.5 and Rondo's 8 per game and Hakeem is a great passer/ playmaker as well so I see the ball movement being much better with pretty much everyone being able to move the ball to the open man.
Rebuttal Gordon Hayward is much better player than Rashard Lewis during the season chosen Gordon Hayward's Impact stats: 199 ws48 / 4.2 bpm / Vorp 4 / Rashard Lewis impact stats: 138 ws48 / 2.5 bpm / 3.3 Vorp
Everyone always try's to downplay Robert Horry. Robert Horry >>>> Rashard Lewis He always steps his game up during the playoffs and he certainly did the year I chose.
Manu wont be slowed down by elite wing defenders in Kidd or Bowen since he roasted elite Pistons defense in the finals during the season and now he has Hakeem that needs to be double teammed at all times and elite help from Terry and Gordon
I don't think Fade has better defense than me. Hakeem is the best defender here by far and all of my guys are elite or good defenders outsite of Gordon which is average. Most of Fade's guys are elite at defense but Rashard is a terrible defender during the season which makes any gap Fade had disappear.
In the end I feel like my offense would be much better and more build like an elite modern offense with great passers all around, elite volume threepoint shooting and go to guys in Hakeem, Manu, Terry and Gordon
lilroddyb wrote:Sorry I would much rather have Robert Horry than Rashard ( honest opinion ) maybe a bit of a hyperbole to use four of these guys >>>>
I guess I'm just trying to win here since I think voters will lean your way hehe
I'm not sure why you think that, you were higher in the rankings than I was.
Lewis is a completely different category of player from Horry. It's like comparing Pat Beverley to Terry Porter.
Well Horry could never be the main scoring threat like Rashard Lewis but I look at Horry more like a lesser version of Draymond Green type of player, so if I had two or three elite scorers I would rather have Horry on my team if that makes any sense to you or others
Although Robert Horry is nothing like Draymond green, or better than Rashard Lewis, I like his talent at guard. Manu and Porter are the kind of non ball dominant guards who could thrive with Hakeem. Bruce Bowen is also easy to hide Porter's weak defense on.
I think the offense will work a bit better on roddy's team with Hakeem and creators/shooters, and defensively starting with Hakeem on Kareem he can do ok
I love Kidd/Kareem for sure but outside of that Fade seems a bit thin in reliable scoring/creation. I prefer Roddys backcourt and with Hakeem fighting Kareem I think he has enough scoring punch to pull this one out.
Really happy to win. I think it's my second win in these games on this board and I have played countless of games so it definitely feels good. GG Fade, you build a great team and i was pretty sure I would loose when I saw you got the first two votes
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Just cut it out.
