Dikembe Mutombo Draft - Discussion

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Re: Dikembe Mutombo Draft - Discussion 

Post#101 » by Snakebites » Wed Oct 9, 2024 4:31 pm

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Larry_Russell wrote:Laimbeer is just trying to load up to try and slow down big Shaq

They aren’t Transformers though. You can’t combine them into one mega-big.



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Didnt the Transformers toys have the ability to do that too?
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Post#102 » by durantbird » Wed Oct 9, 2024 4:34 pm

:lol:
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Larry_Russell wrote:Laimbeer is just trying to load up to try and slow down big Shaq

They aren’t Transformers though. You can’t combine them into one mega-big.
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Post#103 » by Fadeaway_J » Wed Oct 9, 2024 4:34 pm

The weird thing to me is that Laimbeer seemed to be in a good position to contend with those first two picks.
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Post#104 » by durantbird » Wed Oct 9, 2024 4:35 pm

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durantbird wrote:Not sure what Laimbeer is trying to do, but I'm not here to play spite

I was pretty eager to give him the benefit of the doubt when he picked Wilt. It's a lot harder to do that now.

And yes, this move does affect my draft board. I'll acknowledge that now to get ahead of any bias allegations.

And it's the second time in recent drafts I've been impacted by someone picking a player specifically to mess up the board (and to their teams' own detriment).

If it's going to become a larger trend these games might not be for me anymore TBH.

Yeah it doesn't contribute in any way
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Re: Dikembe Mutombo Draft - Discussion 

Post#105 » by Larry_Russell » Wed Oct 9, 2024 4:41 pm

Snakebites wrote:
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Snakebites wrote:They aren’t Transformers though. You can’t combine them into one mega-big.



Voltron!

Didnt the Transformers toys have the ability to do that too?



yeah, I think some did.
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Post#106 » by Laimbeer » Wed Oct 9, 2024 4:42 pm

Not defensive drafting or spite. It's a YOLO experimental type thing. I'd argue big guys of this caliber have an advantage over most of the forwards we'll see in this draft. I'd take Embiid at the four over someone like Barkley 10 times out of 10. Embiid and Garnett have demonstrated the ability to take on forwards. The reason lineups this big generally don't work is there wasn't this level of talent.

That said, I went into this eyes wide open realizing it was largely for the novelty and fun. Wilt being there in the third made it irresistible . Most voters will not like it in match-ups.
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Post#107 » by Laimbeer » Wed Oct 9, 2024 5:03 pm

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durantbird wrote:Not sure what Laimbeer is trying to do, but I'm not here to play spite

I was pretty eager to give him the benefit of the doubt when he picked Wilt. It's a lot harder to do that now.

And yes, this move does affect my draft board. I'll acknowledge that now to get ahead of any bias allegations.

And it's the second time in recent drafts I've been impacted by someone picking a player specifically to mess up the board (and to their teams' own detriment).

If it's going to become a larger trend these games might not be for me anymore TBH.

Yeah it doesn't contribute in any way


Did you assume Wilt and Ewing wouldn't be taken even if I hadn't? Were you targeting them? Snakebites, Fade and Jon all still needed centers. And Fade is the only one who took one. I'm not sure what the assumptions were. FWIW, Reed is a pretty good get for not having to use category one or two. And there were other centers very comparable to Ewing still available.
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Post#108 » by Dr Positivity » Wed Oct 9, 2024 5:48 pm

Wilt as 3rd big maybe I could see but yeah I think Ewing is one step too far for me :lol:
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Post#109 » by Fadeaway_J » Wed Oct 9, 2024 5:51 pm

I miscalculated and forgot Sheed could be taken by Ness.

Then again, it's still just as well I took Moses considering what transpired after. :lol:
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Post#110 » by Snakebites » Wed Oct 9, 2024 6:04 pm

Drazen felt like the right pick at the time but I really need that Nets spot open.

My path forward was ultimately (IMO) made trickier by that choice.
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Post#111 » by Fadeaway_J » Wed Oct 9, 2024 6:28 pm

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Post#112 » by durantbird » Wed Oct 9, 2024 6:31 pm

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Snakebites wrote:I was pretty eager to give him the benefit of the doubt when he picked Wilt. It's a lot harder to do that now.

And yes, this move does affect my draft board. I'll acknowledge that now to get ahead of any bias allegations.

And it's the second time in recent drafts I've been impacted by someone picking a player specifically to mess up the board (and to their teams' own detriment).

If it's going to become a larger trend these games might not be for me anymore TBH.

Yeah it doesn't contribute in any way


Did you assume Wilt and Ewing wouldn't be taken even if I hadn't? Were you targeting them? Snakebites, Fade and Jon all still needed centers. And Fade is the only one who took one. I'm not sure what the assumptions were. FWIW, Reed is a pretty good get for not having to use category one or two. And there were other centers very comparable to Ewing still available.

Wilt and Walton I couldn't take because they were on Ray's spot. Moses as well because I already had Houston and Philly occupied. Ewing was my prime target but I had a bunch of other backup plans, Reed was one of them, also at least two other great centers, plus others who are defensive anchors along with two elite PFs who are still available.

So taking Ewing didn't made me lose all my options, but he was still my favorite choice.

I wouldn't even care if he ended up with someone who needed him like Jon, I was only annoyed/upset because his pick seemed to make absolutely zero sense unless you were trying to mess others' plans.

Like Dr P said, I think taking Wilt is justifiable especially with his low cost. Garnett can play SF, Embiid is ok at PF. I wasn't upset at that. Taking Ewing when you already have three other bigs doesn't seem justifiable at all though if your goal is to maximize your own team.
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Post#115 » by MadNESS » Wed Oct 9, 2024 10:19 pm

Fadeaway_J wrote:I miscalculated and forgot Sheed could be taken by Ness.

Then again, it's still just as well I took Moses considering what transpired after. :lol:


My options were all still open (other than Dr. J) with Hakeem & Kidd and those 2 picks. I left it as open as possible being on the back end like that. Once Sheed was still there, it made the path easier for me. Happy with how it played out actually.
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Post#116 » by Snakebites » Wed Oct 9, 2024 10:32 pm

That was unexpected. I figured Jon would narrow the field for me.
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Post#117 » by Jon_3232 » Wed Oct 9, 2024 10:41 pm

Snakebites wrote:That was unexpected. I figured Jon would narrow the field for me.



I was going Ewing with that pick originally had he made it past Duranbird, didn’t expect Laimbeer to take him haha so C can probably wait for me
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Post#118 » by Snakebites » Wed Oct 9, 2024 10:58 pm

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Snakebites wrote:That was unexpected. I figured Jon would narrow the field for me.



I was going Ewing with that pick originally had he made it past Duranbird, didn’t expect Laimbeer to take him haha so C can probably wait for me

Don’t you stop have DPOY open? Or are you using Portland Clyde in category 2?
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Post#119 » by Jon_3232 » Wed Oct 9, 2024 11:08 pm

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Snakebites wrote:That was unexpected. I figured Jon would narrow the field for me.



I was going Ewing with that pick originally had he made it past Duranbird, didn’t expect Laimbeer to take him haha so C can probably wait for me

Don’t you stop have DPOY open? Or are you using Portland Clyde in category 2?


Yah I still have dpoy open if I decide to take Tor Kawhi and Hou Drexler, or use my dpoy for Kawhi and take Portland Drexler and hope I can get a good C next pick.
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Post#120 » by Dr Positivity » Thu Oct 10, 2024 12:33 am

Happy to get Jones as his Denver version was available to the people that had used Philly, albeit more expensive.
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