Mock Off-Season: NBA Draft and continuation of Mock Offseason part 1

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Re: Mock Off-Season: NBA Draft 

Post#1121 » by SD2042 » Wed May 24, 2017 6:11 pm

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Can't afford Bazemore due to unknown effects of how CP3 and Griffin's contracts will turn out.


As for the 2nd round picks, they will have to be future picks. Will u be good the conditions?


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After looking things over Toronto, would #51 for a future 2019 2nd pick suffice for the sake of the deal?


No we'd need at least 2 seconds as of right now. That might change when Toronto is up at #51.



I'll table the deal for now. If things don't work out for you at #51, let me know. Thx!
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Re: Mock Off-Season: NBA Draft 

Post#1122 » by spearsy23 » Wed May 24, 2017 6:23 pm

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bdpecore wrote:What happened to everyone in this game? It seemed like everyone was much more involved early on than they are now. Its like a ghost town the last 36 hours.


31 trades were made already, how many more would you expect before free agency? :D
Most valuable draft picks have been chosen. I'm sure things will pick up again when we finally get past this second round

That was my point. Activity has fallen off a cliff since Sunday night. I am hopeful things will pick up again once the draft is done.

I'm not Too hopeful. If people can't be around to make picks will they be around for FA?
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Re: Mock Off-Season: NBA Draft 

Post#1123 » by bdpecore » Wed May 24, 2017 6:26 pm

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31 trades were made already, how many more would you expect before free agency? :D
Most valuable draft picks have been chosen. I'm sure things will pick up again when we finally get past this second round

That was my point. Activity has fallen off a cliff since Sunday night. I am hopeful things will pick up again once the draft is done.

I'm not Too hopeful. If people can't be around to make picks will they be around for FA?

Yeah but once free agency hits GMs will have a regained sense of urgency due to the possibility of their targets signing elsewhere.
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Re: Mock Off-Season: NBA Draft 

Post#1124 » by SD2042 » Wed May 24, 2017 6:31 pm

spearsy23 wrote:
bdpecore wrote:
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31 trades were made already, how many more would you expect before free agency? :D
Most valuable draft picks have been chosen. I'm sure things will pick up again when we finally get past this second round

That was my point. Activity has fallen off a cliff since Sunday night. I am hopeful things will pick up again once the draft is done.

I'm not Too hopeful. If people can't be around to make picks will they be around for FA?


A good question to ask.

What solutions could create a better situation to where the draft and go quicker than it has been

We know posters have to be committed to the project. We currently have 3 or 4 posters myself included doing double duty right now.
They also need to keep themselves available a few hours if possible. Otherwise, if the poster feels it's too much of a commitment to be involve with, then don't commit to it.
Communication is key as well. Effect way to keep things in a flow.
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Re: Mock Off-Season: NBA Draft 

Post#1125 » by bdpecore » Wed May 24, 2017 6:35 pm

SD2042 wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:
bdpecore wrote:That was my point. Activity has fallen off a cliff since Sunday night. I am hopeful things will pick up again once the draft is done.

I'm not Too hopeful. If people can't be around to make picks will they be around for FA?


A good question to ask.

What solutions could create a better situation to where the draft and go quicker than it has been

We know posters have to be committed to the project. We currently have 3 or 4 posters myself included doing double duty right now.
They also need to keep themselves available a few hours if possible. Otherwise, if the poster feels it's too much of a commitment to be involve with, then don't commit to it.
Communication is key as well. Effect way to keep things in a flow.

I think posters need to do a better jog of keeping everyone informed on when they will be available especially when their pick is getting closer (3-5 picks away. It can eliminate a lot of wondering as to where they are once on the clock.
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Re: Mock Off-Season: NBA Draft 

Post#1126 » by SD2042 » Wed May 24, 2017 6:36 pm

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Clippers GM here.

Would like to have a word with you about the #54th Pick

Would a 2018 2nd round pick be enough to acquire the pick.
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Re: Mock Off-Season: NBA Draft 

Post#1127 » by xSABOx » Wed May 24, 2017 6:46 pm

Easiest thing to do would be create a big board of 5 prostects when ur 5 picks away... PM it to someone that will honor it... we're talking 2nd round players for crying out loud shouldnt be holding up the draft like this... first round was only delayed because the million trades which i can understand but the 2nd has no reason it should be this serious...
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Re: Mock Off-Season: NBA Draft 

Post#1128 » by spearsy23 » Wed May 24, 2017 6:54 pm

bdpecore wrote:
SD2042 wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:I'm not Too hopeful. If people can't be around to make picks will they be around for FA?


A good question to ask.

What solutions could create a better situation to where the draft and go quicker than it has been

We know posters have to be committed to the project. We currently have 3 or 4 posters myself included doing double duty right now.
They also need to keep themselves available a few hours if possible. Otherwise, if the poster feels it's too much of a commitment to be involve with, then don't commit to it.
Communication is key as well. Effect way to keep things in a flow.

I think posters need to do a better jog of keeping everyone informed on when they will be available especially when their pick is getting closer (3-5 picks away. It can eliminate a lot of wondering as to where they are once on the clock.

Biggest problem is that this time 3 picks could be 20 minutes or 20 hours. I like time limits and draft boards personally, butvthat puts a huge demand on the commish to have to be available through the entire draft. Easiest Way is probably a time limit, and if you haven't made your pick by then you automatically get the highest mocked player remaining on dx's mock draft. It encourages participation since you might end up with a player you have no need for, puts less demand on the commissioner, and in theory isn't too penalizing because you're likely getting a player somebody was targeting.
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Post#1129 » by bdpecore » Wed May 24, 2017 7:17 pm

It also wouldn't hurt to get time zones of those participating since posters are from all over the world. Or even the hours you will definitely not be available because your sleeping.


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Re: Mock Off-Season: NBA Draft 

Post#1130 » by SD2042 » Wed May 24, 2017 7:21 pm

spearsy23 wrote:
bdpecore wrote:
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A good question to ask.

What solutions could create a better situation to where the draft and go quicker than it has been

We know posters have to be committed to the project. We currently have 3 or 4 posters myself included doing double duty right now.
They also need to keep themselves available a few hours if possible. Otherwise, if the poster feels it's too much of a commitment to be involve with, then don't commit to it.
Communication is key as well. Effect way to keep things in a flow.

I think posters need to do a better jog of keeping everyone informed on when they will be available especially when their pick is getting closer (3-5 picks away. It can eliminate a lot of wondering as to where they are once on the clock.

Biggest problem is that this time 3 picks could be 20 minutes or 20 hours. I like time limits and draft boards personally, butvthat puts a huge demand on the commish to have to be available through the entire draft. Easiest Way is probably a time limit, and if you haven't made your pick by then you automatically get the highest mocked player remaining on dx's mock draft. It encourages participation since you might end up with a player you have no need for, puts less demand on the commissioner, and in theory isn't too penalizing because you're likely getting a player somebody was targeting.


That's actually not a bad idea. It keeps the flow of the game going strong and will be less time consuming when it comes to take your pick(s).
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Re: RE: Re: Mock Off-Season: Stage 1 

Post#1131 » by jayjaysee » Wed May 24, 2017 7:27 pm

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I am willing to work Crabbe in if it make sense, I would need some sort of SG back.


Lets see if bwgood77 is interested at all.


I am going to need to address PG one way or another. Lets just table these for now. We still have free agency and the rest of the draft to see what happens. Perhaps there is some movement that free up a PG that we can work into the deal. Bledsoe is kind of the leader and heart of the Suns right now, especially with Tucker gone, and as much as it makes sense to get rid of him, especially looking at the Suns from the outside, I think the young guys kind of see them as their leader, so it would be a big loss, particularly if it was mostly just future likely lower half of first round picks or 2nds.

I do really like Crabbe but I don't like his contract. I might consider him if Knight can be moved. Harkless probably makes more sense, though I'd need to look at his contract. We do need a good backup 2, but that's a pretty hefty dollar figure to pay a backup.

Indiana has a Kris Dunn that can be involved in any of these Bledsoe deals..
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Re: RE: Re: Mock Off-Season: Stage 1 

Post#1132 » by bwgood77 » Wed May 24, 2017 7:29 pm

jayjaysee wrote:
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Lets see if bwgood77 is interested at all.


I am going to need to address PG one way or another. Lets just table these for now. We still have free agency and the rest of the draft to see what happens. Perhaps there is some movement that free up a PG that we can work into the deal. Bledsoe is kind of the leader and heart of the Suns right now, especially with Tucker gone, and as much as it makes sense to get rid of him, especially looking at the Suns from the outside, I think the young guys kind of see them as their leader, so it would be a big loss, particularly if it was mostly just future likely lower half of first round picks or 2nds.

I do really like Crabbe but I don't like his contract. I might consider him if Knight can be moved. Harkless probably makes more sense, though I'd need to look at his contract. We do need a good backup 2, but that's a pretty hefty dollar figure to pay a backup.

Indiana has a Kris Dunn that can be involved in any of these Bledsoe deals..


Not necessarily a fan. He didn't impress me much this season.
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Re: Mock Off-Season: NBA Draft 

Post#1133 » by bdpecore » Wed May 24, 2017 7:38 pm

BullyKing wrote:Got to beat this one:
bdpecore wrote:
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Philly will trade 47 for 55 and the more favorable 2022 2nd round pick between Utah and San Antonio

Would you be willing to trade 47 for 52 and Orlando's 2019 2nd?

Back to business, BillyKing what's the status of my current offer?
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Re: RE: Re: Mock Off-Season: Stage 1 

Post#1134 » by stitches » Wed May 24, 2017 7:39 pm

jayjaysee wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
stitches wrote:
Lets see if bwgood77 is interested at all.


I am going to need to address PG one way or another. Lets just table these for now. We still have free agency and the rest of the draft to see what happens. Perhaps there is some movement that free up a PG that we can work into the deal. Bledsoe is kind of the leader and heart of the Suns right now, especially with Tucker gone, and as much as it makes sense to get rid of him, especially looking at the Suns from the outside, I think the young guys kind of see them as their leader, so it would be a big loss, particularly if it was mostly just future likely lower half of first round picks or 2nds.

I do really like Crabbe but I don't like his contract. I might consider him if Knight can be moved. Harkless probably makes more sense, though I'd need to look at his contract. We do need a good backup 2, but that's a pretty hefty dollar figure to pay a backup.

Indiana has a Kris Dunn that can be involved in any of these Bledsoe deals..


PHX gets Dunn + first round pick from Utah
UTA gets Bledsoe
IND gets Favors

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Re: Mock Off-Season: NBA Draft 

Post#1135 » by BullyKing » Wed May 24, 2017 7:44 pm

bdpecore wrote:
BullyKing wrote:Got to beat this one:
bdpecore wrote:Would you be willing to trade 47 for 52 and Orlando's 2019 2nd?

Back to business, BillyKing what's the status of my current offer?


Still good with me.
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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Mock Off-Season: Stage 1 

Post#1136 » by jayjaysee » Wed May 24, 2017 7:49 pm

stitches wrote:
jayjaysee wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
I am going to need to address PG one way or another. Lets just table these for now. We still have free agency and the rest of the draft to see what happens. Perhaps there is some movement that free up a PG that we can work into the deal. Bledsoe is kind of the leader and heart of the Suns right now, especially with Tucker gone, and as much as it makes sense to get rid of him, especially looking at the Suns from the outside, I think the young guys kind of see them as their leader, so it would be a big loss, particularly if it was mostly just future likely lower half of first round picks or 2nds.

I do really like Crabbe but I don't like his contract. I might consider him if Knight can be moved. Harkless probably makes more sense, though I'd need to look at his contract. We do need a good backup 2, but that's a pretty hefty dollar figure to pay a backup.

Indiana has a Kris Dunn that can be involved in any of these Bledsoe deals..


PHX gets Dunn + first round pick from Utah
UTA gets Bledsoe
IND gets Favors

?

That's what I was picturing but bwg doesn't like Dunn.. if he doesn't like Dunn he won't like Baldwin so I don't have a place in the talks.

I thought booker and Dunn could fit nicely
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Re: Mock Off-Season: NBA Draft 

Post#1137 » by bdpecore » Wed May 24, 2017 7:50 pm

BullyKing wrote:
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BullyKing wrote:Got to beat this one:

Back to business, BillyKing what's the status of my current offer?


Still good with me.

Did you want to finalize the deal or are you planning to wait for more offers?
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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Mock Off-Season: Stage 1 

Post#1138 » by stitches » Wed May 24, 2017 7:50 pm

jayjaysee wrote:
stitches wrote:
jayjaysee wrote:Indiana has a Kris Dunn that can be involved in any of these Bledsoe deals..


PHX gets Dunn + first round pick from Utah
UTA gets Bledsoe
IND gets Favors

?

That's what I was picturing but bwg doesn't like Dunn.. if he doesn't like Dunn he won't like Baldwin so I don't have a place in the talks.

I thought booker and Dunn could fit nicely

Yeah, it's not a bad pairing, especially defensively. Dunn can cover the better guard of the opponent. He's a damn good defender even in his current state. What do you think about Dellavedova in this trade... and what does PHX think about him? Would he be good replacement in this trade? Maybe IND needs to add a wing-defender?
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Re: RE: Re: Mock Off-Season: Stage 1 

Post#1139 » by aramada » Wed May 24, 2017 7:51 pm

stitches wrote:.


Bulls have interest in Derrick Favors. Would you be interested in any player among
Cam Payne
Jerian Grant
Denzel Valentine
Paul Zipser
John Collins
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Post#1140 » by stitches » Wed May 24, 2017 7:53 pm

aramada wrote:
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Bulls have interest in Derrick Favors. Would you be interested in any player among
Cam Payne
Jerian Grant
Denzel Valentine
Paul Zipser
John Collins

What are your future first round picks? None of those really tickle my fancy.

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