GM a TEAM 11/12 - Discussion Thread

Post #121 » by **Klomp** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:02 am

r0cd0gg wrote:I denied the Jordan trade til 5 days are up but would like to get other GMs input on this matter. It was not actually a SnT so to speak so I am not positive whether or not to let it slide or have a 5 day wait.

5 day wait

dan_atko97 · Post #122 » by **dan_atko97** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:22 am

Klomp wrote:
r0cd0gg wrote:I denied the Jordan trade til 5 days are up but would like to get other GMs input on this matter. It was not actually a SnT so to speak so I am not positive whether or not to let it slide or have a 5 day wait.

5 day wait

let it slide

Post #123 » by **MadNESS** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:46 am

Sorry about accepting the stupid artest deal 20 times...myh phone was acting a fool!

Post #124 » by **Klomp** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:50 am

He was a FA signed to a contract offer sheet, which LAC matched.

r0cd0gg wrote:Once a Free Agent has joined your team you will not be allowed to trade them for 5 days to the minute of signing. You will be responsible for posting your FA signing and that posting will be the start of the 5 day wait period.

Its plainly written.

dan_atko97 · Post #125 » by **dan_atko97** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:57 am

didn't they think it was a SnT?

Karmaloop · Post #126 » by **Karmaloop** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:08 am

Klomp wrote:He was a FA signed to a contract offer sheet, which LAC matched.

My big thing is that we had a deal in place that only needed rocdogg's approval on a contract for DeAndre Jordan. And when Mascot and I had agreed to the deal, and Mascot was going to run the numbers by rocdogg. And then next thing I know was that DeAndre Jordan was signed to some offer sheet. Had rocdogg waited another day, this whole point would be moot. I feel like it's unfair to get penalized because of poor timing.

Karmaloop · Post #127 » by **Karmaloop** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:08 am

Not to mention this puts both San Antonio and Golden State's GMs in a significant bind given that we agreed to a deal, one dependent on the DeAndre Jordan-to-San Antonio deal going through. Now I completely understand if people want the five day rule enforced, but I think this is more needs to be decided in what context the rule was placed in. The rule was placed so that we didn't sign other free agents just to use them as trading chips. DeAndre Jordan was my RFA, and I had completely intended to work out a S&T when we realized that rocdogg signed off on someone offering Jordan an offer sheet.

That being said, I'll be contacting the Spurs and Warriors GM and hopefully they'll be willing to keep up their end of the deals even if it means the deals are put hold. I'm done discussing my point, and I do believe the GMs of this game will make the right choice.

Post #128 » by **Klomp** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:12 am

After pending deals are approved, my roster will look like this:

Rubio / Ridnour
Wade / C. Lee / C. Brewer
W. Johnson / Dudley / Webster / T. Williams
A. Randolph / Tolliver
Biedrins / R. Lopez

I am now going into win-now mode. Randolph will be traded for a veteran offensive bigman. My backup wings not named Dudley will be consolidated into some better veteran wings. Rubio is not officially on the block, but could be moved if the right offer comes along.

josh1524@gmail.com

dan_atko97 · Post #129 » by **dan_atko97** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:19 am

Karmaloop wrote:Not to mention this puts both San Antonio and Golden State's GMs in a significant bind given that we agreed to a deal, one dependent on the DeAndre Jordan-to-San Antonio deal going through. Now I completely understand if people want the five day rule enforced, but I think this is more needs to be decided in what context the rule was placed in. The rule was placed so that we didn't sign other free agents just to use them as trading chips. DeAndre Jordan was my RFA, and I had completely intended to work out a S&T when we realized that rocdogg signed off on someone offering Jordan an offer sheet.

That being said, I'll be contacting the Spurs and Warriors GM and hopefully they'll be willing to keep up their end of the deals even if it means the deals are put hold. I'm done discussing my point, and I do believe the GMs of this game will make the right choice.

seeing it was your rfa, i really see no need to have the 5 day wait, it was a SnT. i don't really see how it affects anyone ele so why it should have to wait.

Post #130 » by **roc** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:11 am

I decided that it the deal will go through without the wait period since I just figured he would match the offer if he wanted to keep him while not considering the fact that he needed to do it as a SnT to avoid the 5 day wait.

lukekarts · Post #131 » by **lukekarts** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:22 am

After my two trades and signings, Atlanta looks like this:

PG: Devin Harris
SG: Manu Ginobili / Jamal Crawford
SF: Shane Battier / Marvin Williams / Pape Sy
PF: Al Horford / Magnum Rolle
C: Tim Duncan / Zaza Pachulia

Considering offers where I move Marv Williams and my 2012 1st for 2 players (backup Forward and PG would be ideal) or where I can just move him for cap space.

Could also use my 2012 1st in the upcoming draft. Have all future picks available for trade too!

Under no pressure to move my starters, will be happy if I finish the game with all 5 in place as I really like the balance of scoring and D I have in place.

Mascot · Post #132 » by **Mascot** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 10:49 am

delete

SamBone · Post #133 » by **SamBone** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:17 am

dan_atko97 wrote:
Karmaloop wrote:Not to mention this puts both San Antonio and Golden State's GMs in a significant bind given that we agreed to a deal, one dependent on the DeAndre Jordan-to-San Antonio deal going through. Now I completely understand if people want the five day rule enforced, but I think this is more needs to be decided in what context the rule was placed in. The rule was placed so that we didn't sign other free agents just to use them as trading chips. DeAndre Jordan was my RFA, and I had completely intended to work out a S&T when we realized that rocdogg signed off on someone offering Jordan an offer sheet.

That being said, I'll be contacting the Spurs and Warriors GM and hopefully they'll be willing to keep up their end of the deals even if it means the deals are put hold. I'm done discussing my point, and I do believe the GMs of this game will make the right choice.

seeing it was your rfa, i really see no need to have the 5 day wait, it was a SnT. i don't really see how it affects anyone ele so why it should have to wait.

the problem is that it was not a S&T, Jordan signed an offer sheet with a different team, a team DeAndre wanted to play for. A rule is a rule. This is no different then any other FA signing.

-Kees- · Post #134 » by **-Kees-** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:15 pm

Karmaloop · Post #135 » by **Karmaloop** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:16 pm

SamBone wrote:the problem is that it was not a S&T, Jordan signed an offer sheet with a different team, a team DeAndre wanted to play for. A rule is a rule. This is no different then any other FA signing.

I also have been saying since the beginning I was matching the deal no matter what, and my tune hadn't changed when I acquired Kendrick Perkins. That being said, I also said that it was just unlucky because of poor timing considering San Antonio and I had a deal agreed upon, just needed rocdogg to approve a contract for him. Either way, it's a moot point now and I'd really rather not bury this thread with all this DeAndre Jordan talk.

NBA Champs · Post #136 » by **NBA Champs** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:18 pm

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Tully305 · Post #137 » by **Tully305** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:26 pm

SamBone · Post #138 » by **SamBone** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:37 pm

Karmaloop wrote:
SamBone wrote:the problem is that it was not a S&T, Jordan signed an offer sheet with a different team, a team DeAndre wanted to play for. A rule is a rule. This is no different then any other FA signing.

I also have been saying since the beginning I was matching the deal no matter what, and my tune hadn't changed when I acquired Kendrick Perkins. That being said, I also said that it was just unlucky because of poor timing considering San Antonio and I had a deal agreed upon, just needed rocdogg to approve a contract for him. Either way, it's a moot point now and I'd really rather not bury this thread with all this DeAndre Jordan talk.

understand the matching any offer, which is 100% your rite to do, the point is that it was Denver that signed him to that deal, not you or the team you traded him. In real life (which is why everyone wanted a waiting period to be realistic). If Denver got him to sign that offer sheet and you matched it, you would have to wait like 6 months to retrade him. Just pointing out the facts, I comletly understand that you would match as almost all RFA teams do, the fact is that this round there is a "waiting" period to trade newly signed player. DeAndre is not a S&T because he is not going to Denver. Again, just my 2 cents

Warriorfan · Post #139 » by **Warriorfan** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:25 pm

On the Jordan deal a ruling was made so it is done but we should enforce the rule from now forward

-Kees- · Post #140 » by **-Kees-** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:22 pm

LAL current situation:

Roster
PG - Arenas/Gibson/Johnson/Blake/Goudelock
SG - Bryant/Ebanks
SF - Morrow/Walton
PF - Odom/Majoktsh
Cc - Howard/Alabi

Picks:
2012 LAL 1st
2013 MEM 2nd
2014 LAL 1st
2014 LAL 2nd
2015 LAL 1st
2015 LAL 2nd

Trading Block:
-Arenas/Walton/Blake can be had for just about anything in the league
-Looking to package some picks/young players for upgrades at starting SF, backup wing and starting PG
-Kobe won't move
-Dwight might move, get your offers is