The 3-2-1 Draft (90s to now) - Discussion

[Fadeaway_J]

Can we at least decide the previous draft before this one finishes?

[durantbird]

I thought the "voting" process would have been instantaneous in this

[Larry_Russell]

I thought the "voting" process would have been instantaneous in this

I wasnt available, and had to type out everyone roster so that they all presented the same way.

Eliminate variables.

I just spent about 45 mins doing that so if we do AI voting again...lets format the way people post teams and rosters.

[lilroddyb]

Thanks Larry for doing this. Pretty fun to read about the matchup even if I lost. Didn't agree with some stuff but still fun non the less

[Snakebites]

There was value in giving this a shot. I don’t personally favor this becoming the new standard for determining winners, but at the end of the day it will be up to the people running the games and the community as a whole.

[durantbird]

I thought the "voting" process would have been instantaneous in this

I wasnt available, and had to type out everyone roster so that they all presented the same way.

Eliminate variables.

I just spent about 45 mins doing that so if we do AI voting again...lets format the way people post teams and rosters.

That's a nice addition to ensure standardization, but I'm not sure ChatGPT needs it. It can understand input of various formats

[Fadeaway_J]

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[Fadeaway_J]

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Semis are up

[Fadeaway_J]

There have definitely some takes that I found a little strange (the latest being the idea that a Jokic team lacks a "true elite scorer"), but I have to admit there was a lot more logic and nuance to the AI votes than I expected.

I wonder if there is a way to have it factor in things like strategy and defensive assignments. For example, if I were doing a writeup I would have focused on attacking Jokic in pick-and-roll with Harden, and also would have Harden resting on Herb defensively.

[durantbird]

There have definitely some takes that I found a little strange (the latest being the idea that a Jokic team lacks a "true elite scorer"), but I have to admit there was a lot more logic and nuance to the AI votes than I expected.

I wonder if there is a way to have it factor in things like strategy and defensive assignments. For example, if I were doing a writeup I would have focused on attacking Jokic in pick-and-roll with Harden, and also would have Harden resting on Herb defensively.

I think incorporating writeups could definitely have an effect

[Larry_Russell]

There have definitely some takes that I found a little strange (the latest being the idea that a Jokic team lacks a "true elite scorer"), but I have to admit there was a lot more logic and nuance to the AI votes than I expected.

I wonder if there is a way to have it factor in things like strategy and defensive assignments. For example, if I were doing a writeup I would have focused on attacking Jokic in pick-and-roll with Harden, and also would have Harden resting on Herb defensively.

I think incorporating writeups could definitely have an effect

Possibly.

We can test it with the finals.

1 can run an AI based on the query I have been using, and can run one with writeups.

[Fadeaway_J]

There have definitely some takes that I found a little strange (the latest being the idea that a Jokic team lacks a "true elite scorer"), but I have to admit there was a lot more logic and nuance to the AI votes than I expected.

I wonder if there is a way to have it factor in things like strategy and defensive assignments. For example, if I were doing a writeup I would have focused on attacking Jokic in pick-and-roll with Harden, and also would have Harden resting on Herb defensively.

I think incorporating writeups could definitely have an effect

Possibly.

We can test it with the finals.

1 can run an AI based on the query I have been using, and can run one with writeups.

If wack wants to do a writeup I guess we can try that.

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[wackbone]

I think incorporating writeups could definitely have an effect

Possibly.

We can test it with the finals.

1 can run an AI based on the query I have been using, and can run one with writeups.

If wack wants to do a writeup I guess we can try that.

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I would prefer to just do it the same way we’ve been doing it, and if we want to do a writeup afterwards to see if it changes anything we can. But the actual outcome would be the initial one without a writeup.

[Fadeaway_J]

Possibly.

We can test it with the finals.

1 can run an AI based on the query I have been using, and can run one with writeups.

If wack wants to do a writeup I guess we can try that.

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I would prefer to just do it the same way we’ve been doing it, and if we want to do a writeup afterwards to see if it changes anything we can. But the actual outcome would be the initial one without a writeup.

Same.

Maybe Larry can just use a matchup from a previous draft to test how it reacts to writeups.

[Snakebites]

How would we even know if the writeups change anything?

[Fadeaway_J]

How would we even know if the writeups change anything?

By whether or not the AI mentions any of the strategic elements outlined in the writeups.

[Fadeaway_J]

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Just go ahead and run the finals like the others