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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1421 » by Laimbeer » Wed Jul 8, 2020 4:24 pm

migya wrote:
migya wrote:How about a Steal Draft 2, we had a number 1 a couple of years ago?

Each participant can "Steal" one player from any other participant ONCE and noone can get a player "Stolen" from them more than ONCE. No "Stealing" can happen in the last round, so everyone has to make their "Steal" by the 7th round.


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This is a good idea to play again.

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It seems the simplicity of that format led to sort of a limited/predictable course.

Maybe each player could do a steal or two - and when he makes the steal he pays a fga price or gives fga's to the person he is stealing from?
Comments to rationalize bad contracts -
1) It's less than the MLE
2) He can be traded later
3) It's only __% of the cap
4) The cap is going up
5) It's only __ years
6) He's a good mentor/locker room guy
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1422 » by Laimbeer » Tue Jul 14, 2020 6:02 pm

Hawk Eye wrote:A draft where you have three options when you are on the clock. You only get to choose one option each time you are on the clock.

Option 1: draft a player.
Option 2: increase your FGA budget
Option 3: decrease the number of FGA’s of one of your players.

If you go with option 2 or 3 you will have to wait until you are back on the clock to make your next pick.



What fga values would make sense? Lose 12 for picking in first and 6 for picking in the second? Would we start at a base of 88 or start at less to make people "earn" their normal 88 by skipping early pick(s)?
Comments to rationalize bad contracts -
1) It's less than the MLE
2) He can be traded later
3) It's only __% of the cap
4) The cap is going up
5) It's only __ years
6) He's a good mentor/locker room guy
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1423 » by wackbone » Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:21 pm

So what're we thinking for the next one?
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Post#1424 » by euroleague » Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:32 pm

with so many players active, kind of want to host a 30 second draft again.... but, it's hard to host and draft simultaneously, which is why I've hesitated for so long
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Post#1425 » by goober » Tue Jul 21, 2020 4:04 pm

we haven’t done a 3 degrees of frustration draft in a while could be fun
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Post#1426 » by Hawk Eye » Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:04 pm

Two ideas for the next one:

1. All depth draft. Only players who shot 12.0 FGA or less are draft eligible. This gives a huge advantage to Magic though so maybe we just rule him out for this one. Or perhaps we could make it where everyone gets one exception to even things out a little better.

2. Mixed eras draft. You get three mixed era categories to draft from. Multiplier will be used for pre-merger to adjust for pace.
a. 60’s/10’s
b. 70’s/00’s
c. 80’s/90’s
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Post#1427 » by Laimbeer » Fri Jul 24, 2020 12:57 am

Hawk Eye wrote:Two ideas for the next one:

1. All depth draft. Only players who shot 12.0 FGA or less are draft eligible. This gives a huge advantage to Magic though so maybe we just rule him out for this one. Or perhaps we could make it where everyone gets one exception to even things out a little better.

2. Mixed eras draft. You get three mixed era categories to draft from. Multiplier will be used for pre-merger to adjust for pace.
a. 60’s/10’s
b. 70’s/00’s
c. 80’s/90’s



For 1, how about all must be between 7 and 15 fga?

I like 2 a lot, can't remember if we did it. Maybe limit each of the two decades to 44 fga so both get used equally?
Comments to rationalize bad contracts -
1) It's less than the MLE
2) He can be traded later
3) It's only __% of the cap
4) The cap is going up
5) It's only __ years
6) He's a good mentor/locker room guy
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Post#1428 » by Fadeaway_J » Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:55 pm

Alma Mater Pairs Draft: Pick two players each round who played for the same college. For international players you can use the same country. Any two high school draftees can be paired. All subject to the usual restrictions of one MVP/multiple All-NBA First Team per pair.
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Post#1429 » by goober » Sat Jul 25, 2020 1:01 pm

Fadeaway_J wrote:Alma Mater Pairs Draft: Pick two players each round who played for the same college. For international players you can use the same country. Any two high school draftees can be paired. All subject to the usual restrictions of one MVP/multiple All-NBA First Team per pair.

i would be down for this, would make guys like Pippen, Rodman, and Bowen undraftable, which is interesting.
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1430 » by Dr Positivity » Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:31 am

Odinn21 wrote:https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Hk2YBxwiXS0-ZFaJl7XvyraTWyVtcbOh/view?usp=sharing
Can you guys try to download this? I extracted the data.

Code: Select all

For single seasons; in the regular season; from 1959-60 to 2019-20; requiring Games >= 41 and Win Shares >= -10 and Player Efficiency Rating >= -10 and Box Plus/Minus >= -10; sorted by ascending Player


Any chance you can make this spreadsheet available again? Player index just went belly up
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Post#1431 » by Dr Positivity » Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:54 am

Could we try going down to 6 man rotation and maybe 78 FGA or so without the player index? I think having to weight starting/bench FGA is important for game play but how strong your 6th man is could cover a lot of that
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Post#1432 » by Odinn21 » Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:20 am

Dr Positivity wrote:
Odinn21 wrote:https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Hk2YBxwiXS0-ZFaJl7XvyraTWyVtcbOh/view?usp=sharing
Can you guys try to download this? I extracted the data.

Code: Select all

For single seasons; in the regular season; from 1959-60 to 2019-20; requiring Games >= 41 and Win Shares >= -10 and Player Efficiency Rating >= -10 and Box Plus/Minus >= -10; sorted by ascending Player


Any chance you can make this spreadsheet available again? Player index just went belly up

I don't have the Google Sheets version right now but the MS Excel version is still on my OneDrive, so here's the link for it;
https://1drv.ms/x/s!Aj_AjIUC-9FPzlcL8r5Z-caGzmXn?e=vwu0rm

BTW, Play Index section is removed but modules are still working. Just use the links in your browser history. For example;
https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi

Though I'm sure soon they'll be removing those links as well.
The issue with per75 numbers;
36pts on 27 fga/9 fta in 36 mins, does this mean he'd keep up the efficiency to get 48pts on 36fga/12fta in 48 mins?
The answer; NO. He's human, not a linearly working machine.
Per75 is efficiency rate, not actual production.
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Post#1433 » by Fadeaway_J » Sun Aug 2, 2020 5:29 pm

What's next? I need to wash off the stench of my recent mediocrity. :lol:
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Post#1434 » by Laimbeer » Sun Aug 2, 2020 6:28 pm

Dr Positivity wrote:Could we try going down to 6 man rotation and maybe 78 FGA or so without the player index? I think having to weight starting/bench FGA is important for game play but how strong your 6th man is could cover a lot of that


I think I like this idea, with or without the index. But you'd have to play guys 40 minutes?
Comments to rationalize bad contracts -
1) It's less than the MLE
2) He can be traded later
3) It's only __% of the cap
4) The cap is going up
5) It's only __ years
6) He's a good mentor/locker room guy
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Post#1435 » by Laimbeer » Sun Aug 2, 2020 6:31 pm

Fadeaway_J wrote:What's next? I need to wash off the stench of my recent mediocrity. :lol:


You like the matching last names pairs? I think we figured there would be no dominant pairs but I wonder if there would be enough alphas to go around?
Comments to rationalize bad contracts -
1) It's less than the MLE
2) He can be traded later
3) It's only __% of the cap
4) The cap is going up
5) It's only __ years
6) He's a good mentor/locker room guy
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Post#1436 » by Fadeaway_J » Sun Aug 2, 2020 6:39 pm

Laimbeer wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:What's next? I need to wash off the stench of my recent mediocrity. :lol:


You like the matching last names pairs? I think we figured there would be no dominant pairs but I wonder if there would be enough alphas to go around?

It struck me as a game where we could get trapped in a situation where there aren't enough viable pairings to go around. I would expand it to allow for first and last names to be matched, e.g. LeBron James and James Posey.
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Post#1437 » by ardee » Mon Aug 3, 2020 7:24 pm

I think we can do the 2020 And1 game pretty soon.
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1438 » by Laimbeer » Sat Aug 8, 2020 12:41 pm

Odinn21 wrote:
Dr Positivity wrote:
Odinn21 wrote:https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Hk2YBxwiXS0-ZFaJl7XvyraTWyVtcbOh/view?usp=sharing
Can you guys try to download this? I extracted the data.

Code: Select all

For single seasons; in the regular season; from 1959-60 to 2019-20; requiring Games >= 41 and Win Shares >= -10 and Player Efficiency Rating >= -10 and Box Plus/Minus >= -10; sorted by ascending Player


Any chance you can make this spreadsheet available again? Player index just went belly up

I don't have the Google Sheets version right now but the MS Excel version is still on my OneDrive, so here's the link for it;
https://1drv.ms/x/s!Aj_AjIUC-9FPzlcL8r5Z-caGzmXn?e=vwu0rm

BTW, Play Index section is removed but modules are still working. Just use the links in your browser history. For example;
https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi

Though I'm sure soon they'll be removing those links as well.


Looks to me like they've removed everything from individual profiles except regular season per game - no advanced, no playoff stats, etc.
Comments to rationalize bad contracts -
1) It's less than the MLE
2) He can be traded later
3) It's only __% of the cap
4) The cap is going up
5) It's only __ years
6) He's a good mentor/locker room guy
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Post#1439 » by Dr Positivity » Sat Aug 8, 2020 2:53 pm

Laimbeer wrote:
Odinn21 wrote:
Dr Positivity wrote:
Any chance you can make this spreadsheet available again? Player index just went belly up

I don't have the Google Sheets version right now but the MS Excel version is still on my OneDrive, so here's the link for it;
https://1drv.ms/x/s!Aj_AjIUC-9FPzlcL8r5Z-caGzmXn?e=vwu0rm

BTW, Play Index section is removed but modules are still working. Just use the links in your browser history. For example;
https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi

Though I'm sure soon they'll be removing those links as well.


Looks to me like they've removed everything from individual profiles except regular season per game - no advanced, no playoff stats, etc.


I'm not seeing that, they still work for me
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Post#1440 » by Laimbeer » Sat Aug 8, 2020 4:00 pm

Dr Positivity wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:
Odinn21 wrote:I don't have the Google Sheets version right now but the MS Excel version is still on my OneDrive, so here's the link for it;
https://1drv.ms/x/s!Aj_AjIUC-9FPzlcL8r5Z-caGzmXn?e=vwu0rm

BTW, Play Index section is removed but modules are still working. Just use the links in your browser history. For example;
https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi

Though I'm sure soon they'll be removing those links as well.


Looks to me like they've removed everything from individual profiles except regular season per game - no advanced, no playoff stats, etc.


I'm not seeing that, they still work for me


You're right - a page stopped loading there for me and I assumed the worst. :lol:
Comments to rationalize bad contracts -
1) It's less than the MLE
2) He can be traded later
3) It's only __% of the cap
4) The cap is going up
5) It's only __ years
6) He's a good mentor/locker room guy

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