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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1481 » by Snakebites » Thu Oct 8, 2020 12:18 am

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Laimbeer wrote:I don't think we'd need restrictions, though I'd say no 2020 Lakers since that's a really tough pair and they've all but won it. Probably shouldn't be overly concerned about Kawhi/George based on the comments I've being seeing for Pandemic P. :lol: Still a pretty nice pair, imo.

Kawhi/PG worries me a bit. Not a proven 1/2 but I can’t imagine people having scruples with PG as a third option.

I’d be open to just leaving 2020 out. Otherwise you either wait till after the finals or have the weird optic of eliminating one specific pair (Lebron/Ad).

We could also just eliminate any teams that are still playing when the draft starts.

Are we fine with pairs like Stockton-Malone or Shaq-Penny then?

Eh. I’m not sure you have a very interesting dynamic without those. At that point if you’re gonna restrict those you may as well go back to allowing championship pairs. And we’ve done that.

My mind could be changed, and it’s not my call anyway since I’ll not be running it.
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1482 » by Laimbeer » Thu Oct 8, 2020 12:21 am

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Laimbeer wrote:I don't think we'd need restrictions, though I'd say no 2020 Lakers since that's a really tough pair and they've all but won it. Probably shouldn't be overly concerned about Kawhi/George based on the comments I've being seeing for Pandemic P. :lol: Still a pretty nice pair, imo.

Kawhi/PG worries me a bit. Not a proven 1/2 but I can’t imagine people having scruples with PG as a third option.

I’d be open to just leaving 2020 out. Otherwise you either wait till after the finals or have the weird optic of eliminating one specific pair (Lebron/Ad).

We could also just eliminate any teams that are still playing when the draft starts.

Are we fine with pairs like Stockton-Malone or Shaq-Penny then?


If we're going back that far, Stockton and possibly Malone are normally second round type picks. I think Shaq / Penny is stronger, though I'm not sure how good Orlando Shaq is considered in this pool.
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1483 » by Fadeaway_J » Thu Oct 8, 2020 12:22 am

I'd be fine without any restrictions BTW, just getting the terms clear.
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1484 » by Snakebites » Thu Oct 8, 2020 12:35 am

We seem to be having a hard time getting 16 in these. The last game is limping to the finish line with 10. I think we’ve proven you can only go back to the 90s or sooner if you have 16. Not sure I have high hopes there.
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1485 » by Laimbeer » Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:48 pm

How about all your picks must be

C-PF-PG
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Or use height as the separator

6'10 and over plus 6'3 and shorter
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1486 » by Fadeaway_J » Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:01 pm

Wouldn't mind revisiting the three degrees teammates concept. It's been three and a half years since the last one.
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1487 » by Snakebites » Mon Oct 12, 2020 4:22 pm

Honestly? I think we should wait a minute to do another of these. We’ve been struggling with signups for a few games in a row.
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1488 » by Zion Wembanyama » Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:16 pm

+1 for the next game if 89/90 to now is an available draft year range you can select.
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1489 » by WillyJakkz » Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:57 pm

Seems one issue could be the ranking system. Having 16 to 12 or 8guys draft then only actually 4 guys getting to actually "play the game" isn't appealing.

That ish is the equivalent of having 4 guys wanting to hoop then you ask 6 scrubs or little kids who happen to be at the court to "play" just so you can run full court" but not passing them the rock lol
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1490 » by Fadeaway_J » Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:30 am

WillyJakkz wrote:Seems one issue could be the ranking system. Having 16 to 12 or 8guys draft then only actually 4 guys getting to actually "play the game" isn't appealing.

That ish is the equivalent of having 4 guys wanting to hoop then you ask 6 scrubs or little kids who happen to be at the court to "play" just so you can run full court" but not passing them the rock lol

Rankings aren't the default format though. We generally only do that when there aren't enough people to make full playoffs viable. Once it gets to 12 or fewer, it's a **** pain trying to get enough votes for playoff matchups.
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1491 » by parsnips33 » Wed Oct 14, 2020 3:58 pm

Fadeaway_J wrote:
WillyJakkz wrote:Seems one issue could be the ranking system. Having 16 to 12 or 8guys draft then only actually 4 guys getting to actually "play the game" isn't appealing.

That ish is the equivalent of having 4 guys wanting to hoop then you ask 6 scrubs or little kids who happen to be at the court to "play" just so you can run full court" but not passing them the rock lol

Rankings aren't the default format though. We generally only do that when there aren't enough people to make full playoffs viable. Once it gets to 12 or fewer, it's a **** pain trying to get enough votes for playoff matchups.


Totally agree with Willy, I think rankings really tend to take the wind out of the game. But having a bunch of playoff matchups that just sit there getting no votes is just as bad. Really hard to make these things run smoothly with under 16 participants.
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1492 » by Laimbeer » Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:59 pm

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WillyJakkz wrote:Seems one issue could be the ranking system. Having 16 to 12 or 8guys draft then only actually 4 guys getting to actually "play the game" isn't appealing.

That ish is the equivalent of having 4 guys wanting to hoop then you ask 6 scrubs or little kids who happen to be at the court to "play" just so you can run full court" but not passing them the rock lol

Rankings aren't the default format though. We generally only do that when there aren't enough people to make full playoffs viable. Once it gets to 12 or fewer, it's a **** pain trying to get enough votes for playoff matchups.


Totally agree with Willy, I think rankings really tend to take the wind out of the game. But having a bunch of playoff matchups that just sit there getting no votes is just as bad. Really hard to make these things run smoothly with under 16 participants.


Not ideal, but a best of five vote could probably work with smaller fields.
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1493 » by Fadeaway_J » Wed Oct 14, 2020 6:52 pm

Throwing out a version of an idea that I just did on a soccer forum:

You draft your first pick as per usual, and then all your remaining players have to have either been a teammate of that player, or faced him in a playoff series, and you must use the season in which either occurred.

I figure this one would need greater participation than we've been getting of late however.
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Post#1494 » by goober » Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:35 am

Fadeaway_J wrote:Wouldn't mind revisiting the three degrees teammates concept. It's been three and a half years since the last one.

I’d be down to do this, and maybe just post a sign up thread as a feeler, this is almost always a very popular game.
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1495 » by Laimbeer » Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:23 pm

Goober wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:Wouldn't mind revisiting the three degrees teammates concept. It's been three and a half years since the last one.

I’d be down to do this, and maybe just post a sign up thread as a feeler, this is almost always a very popular game.


I say go for it and be patient on signups. Giving it an extra day can net a couple more if we look really short.
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1496 » by Fadeaway_J » Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:51 pm

Laimbeer wrote:
Goober wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:Wouldn't mind revisiting the three degrees teammates concept. It's been three and a half years since the last one.

I’d be down to do this, and maybe just post a sign up thread as a feeler, this is almost always a very popular game.


I say go for it and be patient on signups. Giving it an extra day can net a couple more if we look really short.

I'll start a thread when I get home from work.
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1497 » by Laimbeer » Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:45 pm

Reserve draft - player must have more games off the bench than starting in season selected.
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1498 » by Fadeaway_J » Sat Oct 24, 2020 3:32 pm

What about a draft where all HOFers are banned?

The first round would obviously have a very modern feel, but the pool of second and third options would be shaken up a fair bit.
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1499 » by Laimbeer » Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:18 pm

Fadeaway_J wrote:What about a draft where all HOFers are banned?

The first round would obviously have a very modern feel, but the pool of second and third options would be shaken up a fair bit.



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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1500 » by wackbone » Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:11 pm

Laimbeer wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:What about a draft where all HOFers are banned?

The first round would obviously have a very modern feel, but the pool of second and third options would be shaken up a fair bit.



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Might be a bit wonky, but maybe change the years to end at like 2015? Just so the likely future HOF wouldn't be allowed. Also, yet another draft where LeBron would be OP.

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