Future Draft Games

[Laimbeer]

How about not being able to use seasons with a franchise where the player reached his peak? No LAL Shaq, no Minny KG, etc. I'd include a rule that if a player won a MVP with a franchise you couldn't use that franchise, even if it's his second best franchise (I've got LeBron as too much of an advantage otherwise.)

How do you determine peak? Win Shares?

Yes. Seems cleanest.

[Jordan Syndrome]

How about not being able to use seasons with a franchise where the player reached his peak? No LAL Shaq, no Minny KG, etc. I'd include a rule that if a player won a MVP with a franchise you couldn't use that franchise, even if it's his second best franchise (I've got LeBron as too much of an advantage otherwise.)

How do you determine peak? Win Shares?

Yes. Seems cleanest.

So no Duncan, Dirk, Bird, Magic, Robinson, Hakeem (unless Toronto), Jordan (unless Wizards), Curry, Giannis, Miller, Thompson, Green.

[Laimbeer]

How do you determine peak? Win Shares?

Yes. Seems cleanest.

So no Duncan, Dirk, Bird, Magic, Robinson, Hakeem (unless Toronto), Jordan (unless Wizards), Curry, Giannis, Miller, Thompson, Green.

Correct.

[Jordan Syndrome]

Yes. Seems cleanest.

So no Duncan, Dirk, Bird, Magic, Robinson, Hakeem (unless Toronto), Jordan (unless Wizards), Curry, Giannis, Miller, Thompson, Green.

Correct.

So basically a No-MVP draft with no young players?

[Laimbeer]

So no Duncan, Dirk, Bird, Magic, Robinson, Hakeem (unless Toronto), Jordan (unless Wizards), Curry, Giannis, Miller, Thompson, Green.

Correct.

So basically a No-MVP draft with no young players?

There would be players who won MVPs at some point, just not at their peak. I would think we'd see young players in this.

[Jordan Syndrome]

Correct.

So basically a No-MVP draft with no young players?

There would be players who won MVPs at some point, just not at their peak. I would think we'd see young players in this.

How can we see young players? If they played on one team we won't see them.

[Laimbeer]

So basically a No-MVP draft with no young players?

There would be players who won MVPs at some point, just not at their peak. I would think we'd see young players in this.

How can we see young players? If they played on one team we won't see them.

We'll see younger players like Orlando Shaq, but not current players still on their first team if that's what you mean.

[Jordan Syndrome]

There would be players who won MVPs at some point, just not at their peak. I would think we'd see young players in this.

How can we see young players? If they played on one team we won't see them.

We'll see younger players like Orlando Shaq, but not current players still on their first team if that's what you mean.

Yeah it is going to be a very limited pool and by far the weakest pool I have ever seen. Im fine with it because of how different it is.

[migya]

With only ten participants in the current draft game, with what looks like others who haven't played the last few games, the rest of us can have a game.

I think a draft game pre 2010 would be good. It would not have such skewing towards increased three point shooting and any modern bias.

What do you all think?

[Zion Wembanyama]

With only ten participants in the current draft game, with what looks like others who haven't played the last few games, the rest of us can have a game.

I think a draft game pre 2010 would be good. It would not have such skewing towards increased three point shooting and any modern bias.

What do you all think?

1980-2009?

To add better versions of Kareem and Bird to the game.

[migya]

With only ten participants in the current draft game, with what looks like others who haven't played the last few games, the rest of us can have a game.

I think a draft game pre 2010 would be good. It would not have such skewing towards increased three point shooting and any modern bias.

What do you all think?

1980-2009?

To add better versions of Kareem and Bird to the game.

That'd work, just need restrictions of sorts, like only one Allnba big and one guard or wing.

[Jordan Syndrome]

With only ten participants in the current draft game, with what looks like others who haven't played the last few games, the rest of us can have a game.

I think a draft game pre 2010 would be good. It would not have such skewing towards increased three point shooting and any modern bias.

What do you all think?

1980-2009?

To add better versions of Kareem and Bird to the game.

That'd work, just need restrictions of sorts, like only one Allnba big and one guard or wing.

All-NBA 1st team or just all-nba in general?

[migya]

1980-2009?

To add better versions of Kareem and Bird to the game.

That'd work, just need restrictions of sorts, like only one Allnba big and one guard or wing.

All-NBA 1st team or just all-nba in general?

Maybe a consensus?

[Fadeaway_J]

That'd work, just need restrictions of sorts, like only one Allnba big and one guard or wing.

All-NBA 1st team or just all-nba in general?

Maybe a consensus?

Limit of 40 FGA that can be used on All-Star/All-NBA players. Also no more than three such players per team.

[Laimbeer]

All-NBA 1st team or just all-nba in general?

Maybe a consensus?

Limit of 40 FGA that can be used on All-Star/All-NBA players. Also no more than three such players per team.

Yeah I think 1980 is about right for a starting year - really dislike going farther back. I still think spacing will be valued, it just won't be as readily available.

Not that I mind it, but why the all-NBA, all-star limits? Too few participants?

[Fadeaway_J]

Maybe a consensus?

Limit of 40 FGA that can be used on All-Star/All-NBA players. Also no more than three such players per team.

Yeah I think 1980 is about right for a starting year - really dislike going farther back. I still think spacing will be valued, it just won't be as readily available.

Not that I mind it, but why the all-NBA, all-star limits? Too few participants?

Since having a restriction was proposed, I was just throwing one out that I was considering trying out at some point.

[Jordan Syndrome]

Limit of 40 FGA that can be used on All-Star/All-NBA players. Also no more than three such players per team.

Yeah I think 1980 is about right for a starting year - really dislike going farther back. I still think spacing will be valued, it just won't be as readily available.

Not that I mind it, but why the all-NBA, all-star limits? Too few participants?

Since having a restriction was proposed, I was just throwing one out that I was considering trying out at some point.

I like it. Maybe just make it 44 so "half" your FGA have to be from non-allstars

[Fadeaway_J]

Yeah I think 1980 is about right for a starting year - really dislike going farther back. I still think spacing will be valued, it just won't be as readily available.

Not that I mind it, but why the all-NBA, all-star limits? Too few participants?

Since having a restriction was proposed, I was just throwing one out that I was considering trying out at some point.

I like it. Maybe just make it 44 so "half" your FGA have to be from non-allstars

The reason I went with 40 was to create more of a tradeoff between having two MVP-level guys (almost all of them are 15 FGA or more) vs. something like one MVP + two lower-level stars. Maybe that still works with 44 though.

[Laimbeer]

Since having a restriction was proposed, I was just throwing one out that I was considering trying out at some point.

I like it. Maybe just make it 44 so "half" your FGA have to be from non-allstars

The reason I went with 40 was to create more of a tradeoff between having two MVP-level guys (almost all of them are 15 FGA or more) vs. something like one MVP + two lower-level stars. Maybe that still works with 44 though.

If your first guy is 17 or so, that leaves 23 for the other two - pretty skinny.

How about allowing four accolade points - MVP/multiple first cost two points and any other all-NBA or all-star counts as one. Not sure if you'd need the fga limit. Could be interesting to see how long people wait on their points and how they allocate them.

[Fadeaway_J]

I like it. Maybe just make it 44 so "half" your FGA have to be from non-allstars

The reason I went with 40 was to create more of a tradeoff between having two MVP-level guys (almost all of them are 15 FGA or more) vs. something like one MVP + two lower-level stars. Maybe that still works with 44 though.

If your first guy is 17 or so, that leaves 23 for the other two - pretty skinny.

How about allowing four accolade points - MVP/multiple first cost two points and any other all-NBA or all-star counts as one. Not sure if you'd need the fga limit. Could be interesting to see how long people wait on their points and how they allocate them.

Yeah, once you put it that way 44 seems perfectly fine.

So here's the thing about the MVP/multiple first restriction: a lot of guys who meet the criteria but aren't really valued as legit #2 options get effectively legislated out of the game. It's hard to see someone using two of those points on someone like Kidd, Payton, Dwight, or Stockton; Nash and Penny might be ruled out as well. Using FGA gives people a bit more freedom as to how they want to allocate those resources.