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Post#161 » by damecurry » Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:43 pm

What about a Rivals Draft. Opposite of teammates essentially, 2 at a time both must have played at least 10 games against each other in their careers and must NEVER have played together on a team.
Just a way to mix up the dynamic. Could do that upside down if you really wanna be crazy.
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Post#162 » by Dr Positivity » Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:26 pm

damecurry wrote:What about a Rivals Draft. Opposite of teammates essentially, 2 at a time both must have played at least 10 games against each other in their careers and must NEVER have played together on a team.
Just a way to mix up the dynamic. Could do that upside down if you really wanna be crazy.


I would suggest just making it so they faced each other in the playoffs that season. But too many stacked options if a team can draft eg. Magic and Bird at once

Former friends draft - players who were once teammates, but aren't anymore in the seasons you pick? Might be top heavy I guess with some big pairs like Shaq/Penny, two of Westbrook/Durant/Harden, Dirk/Nash
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#163 » by Laimbeer » Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:34 pm

Dr Positivity wrote:
damecurry wrote:What about a Rivals Draft. Opposite of teammates essentially, 2 at a time both must have played at least 10 games against each other in their careers and must NEVER have played together on a team.
Just a way to mix up the dynamic. Could do that upside down if you really wanna be crazy.


I would suggest just making it so they faced each other in the playoffs that season. But too many stacked options if a team can draft eg. Magic and Bird at once

Former friends draft - players who were once teammates, but aren't anymore in the seasons you pick? Might be top heavy I guess with some big pairs like Shaq/Penny, two of Westbrook/Durant/Harden, Dirk/Nash


I like the facing in playoffs option. It could work with the protection used in the last Teammate game. Maybe narrow it to met in the finals.
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Post#164 » by Fadeaway_J » Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:46 pm

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damecurry wrote:What about a Rivals Draft. Opposite of teammates essentially, 2 at a time both must have played at least 10 games against each other in their careers and must NEVER have played together on a team.
Just a way to mix up the dynamic. Could do that upside down if you really wanna be crazy.


I would suggest just making it so they faced each other in the playoffs that season. But too many stacked options if a team can draft eg. Magic and Bird at once

Former friends draft - players who were once teammates, but aren't anymore in the seasons you pick? Might be top heavy I guess with some big pairs like Shaq/Penny, two of Westbrook/Durant/Harden, Dirk/Nash


I like the facing in playoffs option. It could work with the protection used in the last Teammate game. Maybe narrow it to met in the finals.

I was going to suggest exactly this, and I think it would obviate the need to limit it to finals meetings. Just use All-NBA First Team or something similar I would say.
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Post#165 » by Laimbeer » Thu Mar 22, 2018 8:30 pm

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I would suggest just making it so they faced each other in the playoffs that season. But too many stacked options if a team can draft eg. Magic and Bird at once

Former friends draft - players who were once teammates, but aren't anymore in the seasons you pick? Might be top heavy I guess with some big pairs like Shaq/Penny, two of Westbrook/Durant/Harden, Dirk/Nash


I like the facing in playoffs option. It could work with the protection used in the last Teammate game. Maybe narrow it to met in the finals.

I was going to suggest exactly this, and I think it would obviate the need to limit it to finals meetings. Just use All-NBA First Team or something similar I would say.


Maybe it's me, but I think "any playoffs" would require quite a bit of research. Finals only would further limit the layer pool in an interesting way, IMO. Up to the commish, I like it either way.

Also, I assume you'd have to choose the same season for both in a year they met?
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Post#166 » by Laimbeer » Thu Mar 22, 2018 8:36 pm

Fadeaway_J wrote:What about combining the upside down concept with multiple picks (teammates, draft classmates, etc.)?


I like this too.
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Post#167 » by Fadeaway_J » Thu Mar 22, 2018 8:38 pm

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I like the facing in playoffs option. It could work with the protection used in the last Teammate game. Maybe narrow it to met in the finals.

I was going to suggest exactly this, and I think it would obviate the need to limit it to finals meetings. Just use All-NBA First Team or something similar I would say.


Maybe it's me, but I think "any playoffs" would require quite a bit of research. Finals only would further limit the layer pool in an interesting way, IMO. Up to the commish, I like it either way.

Also, I assume you'd have to choose the same season for both in a year they met?

Finals only is just too limiting for me. I'd be fine doing the research.
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Post#168 » by euroleague » Fri Mar 23, 2018 5:15 am

I'd like to do a 1 hour draft based on 90-now with limit of 1 MVP, 2 all-nba 1st, etc. no FGA limit
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Post#169 » by Dr Positivity » Fri Mar 23, 2018 6:35 am

For fast drafts I think I would prefer the 15 minute/frustration draft format, and keeping the FGA limit in
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Post#170 » by euroleague » Sat Mar 24, 2018 1:07 am

Dr Positivity wrote:For fast drafts I think I would prefer the 15 minute/frustration draft format, and keeping the FGA limit in

15 minutes is too long. 15 hours in total
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Post#171 » by Laimbeer » Sat Mar 24, 2018 1:13 am

euroleague wrote:
Dr Positivity wrote:For fast drafts I think I would prefer the 15 minute/frustration draft format, and keeping the FGA limit in

15 minutes is too long. 15 hours in total


Yeah, we've done them but it'a a weekend. Whole different animal.
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Post#172 » by Dr Positivity » Sat Mar 24, 2018 1:15 am

euroleague wrote:
Dr Positivity wrote:For fast drafts I think I would prefer the 15 minute/frustration draft format, and keeping the FGA limit in

15 minutes is too long. 15 hours in total


When Laimbeer did one before everyone's 15 min blocks were set before hand (eg you knew you were picking at 10:30, 12:30, 2:30, etc). So you only had to show up when you had to
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Post#173 » by damecurry » Sat Mar 24, 2018 8:59 am

1 minute is insanity. 15 minute with set time slots is a whole different thing. I do think theres an interesting middle ground to be found in a 3 minute draft with FGA, itd be pretty intense but not the mind boggling wildness of a 1 minute game.
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Post#174 » by euroleague » Sat Mar 24, 2018 10:22 am

I want to see the insanity
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Post#175 » by Laimbeer » Sat Mar 24, 2018 11:00 am

damecurry wrote:1 minute is insanity. 15 minute with set time slots is a whole different thing. I do think theres an interesting middle ground to be found in a 3 minute draft with FGA, itd be pretty intense but not the mind boggling wildness of a 1 minute game.


Three minutes does seem like a sweet spot, but you've got to find a three hour window when everyone is available. Just getting a one hour window enough people could make was a challenge. We still came up with just seven.
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Post#176 » by damecurry » Sat Mar 24, 2018 4:25 pm

Laimbeer wrote:
damecurry wrote:1 minute is insanity. 15 minute with set time slots is a whole different thing. I do think theres an interesting middle ground to be found in a 3 minute draft with FGA, itd be pretty intense but not the mind boggling wildness of a 1 minute game.


Three minutes does seem like a sweet spot, but you've got to find a three hour window when everyone is available. Just getting a one hour window enough people could make was a challenge. We still came up with just seven.

This is true... it seemed the 1 hour draft would have done much better an hour later so I woner if 10-1am EST is just too late for the eastern folks? Idk I have an extra day off coming up I might try and run a quick 3 hour draft, test it out, could be lots of fun.
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Post#177 » by janmagn » Sat Mar 24, 2018 4:50 pm

damecurry wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:
damecurry wrote:1 minute is insanity. 15 minute with set time slots is a whole different thing. I do think theres an interesting middle ground to be found in a 3 minute draft with FGA, itd be pretty intense but not the mind boggling wildness of a 1 minute game.


Three minutes does seem like a sweet spot, but you've got to find a three hour window when everyone is available. Just getting a one hour window enough people could make was a challenge. We still came up with just seven.

This is true... it seemed the 1 hour draft would have done much better an hour later so I woner if 10-1am EST is just too late for the eastern folks? Idk I have an extra day off coming up I might try and run a quick 3 hour draft, test it out, could be lots of fun.
Midnight est might get me in. It's just around the time I'm waking up here in Europe

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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#178 » by Dr Positivity » Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:38 pm

I would like to revisit the Batman, Robins, Supporting cast game. Post merger?
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Post#179 » by Dr Positivity » Tue Mar 27, 2018 8:05 pm

A draft where you can pass on any pick you made, to be made up for after the traditional eight rounds are complete. Once in the make-up rounds the earlier a pick was passed on the less FGAs the make-up costs. If you pass on a pick in Rd 1, your make up pick costs 0 FGAs. If you pass in Rd 2, it's 10%. Rd 3 - 20%, Rd 4 - 30%, Rd 5 - 40%, Rd 6 - 50%, Rd 7 - 60%, Round 8 - 70%.
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#180 » by Dr Positivity » Thu Mar 29, 2018 12:42 am

Position step - similar to stair steps except your position has to be one up/down from the last pick's
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