Mock Off-Season: NBA Draft and continuation of Mock Offseason part 1

[bdpecore]

Tyus Jones was traded to OKC, right (Can´t find him in your depth chart)?
Is he available for the 2018 GSW 2nd?

I don't know if he moved him afterwards but I can confirm that I traded Jones to OKC as part of the deal that got me Oladipo.

He was then moved to... I want to say Toronto? I honestly don't remember.

Edit: Milwaukee. They may have rehomed him already as well though.

Tyus Jones wound up on the 76ers.

[spree8]

I am unsure what the Magic's roster looks like, but the fact that you came out with Jackson and DS Jr, is killer. Those could be the two highest upside guys in the draft. If DS Jr stays healthy is focused, driven and works hard, he could be an explosive walking triple double.

Thanks brotha!

For the record, no one called out anyone specifically. My entire point was that the initial post wanted people to try and be realistic and do things the way they think their team would do them. There are multiple different games where people trade millions of players millions of times. I think the initial goal wasn't to be one of those games.

I don't really know much about the Twolves. I do know that they had a clear weakness with defense and perimeter shooting. My goal was to fix their defense and perimeter shooting. The three trades I made (technically I could have just combined the 76ers trade with the Knicks trade to make it a 3-way and thus only complete 2) were made towards that end. I replaced Zach Lavine with Victor Oladipo to upgrade my perimeter D while adding Kyle O'Quinn and TJ McConnell to my bench in other trades. I also added a high upside 3/4 in Johnathan Issac who has high defensive upside while being an efficient offensive player who doesn't demand the ball. I'll spend the rest of my time overpaying for a backups who can hit the 3. Overall, a simple strategy with a clear goal that I think I executed nicely.

Na that's my bad for not clarifying... wasn't saying I was called out or anything... just wanted to make my case for my moves being realistic despite being a little on the higher side of things since the subject was brought up.

For a team in the Magic's situation, I figured an Isiah Thomas(tho not as bad)/Donnie Walsh type set of house clearing moves was in order after thoroughly reading over the Magic Board.

[spearsy23]

Meh, I abandoned realism sometime during the week long draft and after some big names were flipped. At that point it's already unrealistic so might as well try to create the roster that could work irl but would take a lot of finess. Also, I view most of the guys being traded twice as three team deals that it's much more difficult to figure out when you can't just call someone up and speak to then in real time. I.e. in real life i would've called the kings as soon as la offered me Clarkson, knowing I don't want him but they might have interest and I can use that to shave salary.

[kalenclayton]

Meh, I abandoned realism sometime during the week long draft and after some big names were flipped. At that point it's already unrealistic so might as well try to create the roster that could work irl but would take a lot of finess. Also, I view most of the guys being traded twice as three team deals that it's much more difficult to figure out when you can't just call someone up and speak to then in real time. I.e. in real life i would've called the kings as soon as la offered me Clarkson, knowing I don't want him but they might have interest and I can use that to shave salary.

I would say the Clarkson move was calculated. Your trade with the Lakers could've just been combined with our trade with the Heat. It would look a lot better.

[SD2042]

I hate all this trading guys multiple times. This was supposed to be realistic. That's why I joined.

Most of the time, realism is as good as it gets. Being it's a game, I can understand where players will put their little spin on it to fulfill their team fantasy which can't be fulfill in reality.

Take the Grizzlies for instance. They have TA, VC, ZBo, and Jam Green on deck to be UFAs and RFA respectively. Loyalty and the salary cap are the issues the Grizzlies face in reality. Do they fulfill their loyalties to their old regime? Will they throw money at Jam Green for what it's worth? Will they admit that throwing money at Chandler Parsons was a mistake especially with his history of injuries? Those are the questions many Grizzlies fans are dealing with in the offseason. From my standpoint, based on how the Grizzlies are with their salary cap, the chances of them likely to improve their cap room is likely. I believe that getting Chancun Parsons will like create the consequence of trading off someone like Marc Gasol in order to improve their cap room. Which I ended up doing in my game. Didn't want to do that. However, my lack of cap room forced my hand to commit to the trade of Gasol. I did get younger and grab a couple of picks in the trade. That help started a movement to build for the future while staying competitive in the Western Conference.

Will Grizzlies GM Chris Wallace even consider doing these moves? Hardly, but it's fun to act out some of our team fantasies. As long as it's not leaning towards the ridiculous.

[jredsaz]

Spurs release Bryn Forbes

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[stitches]

I hate all this trading guys multiple times. This was supposed to be realistic. That's why I joined.

So far the Suns have been pretty realistic and declined about 50 trades.

Same here. I tried to strike some deals... mainly with you , but the only finalized deal I have is to trade Alec Burks away.

[BullyKing]

Once and if I am appointed, I would be interested. Not sure I understand the Brook Lopez trade but whatever. Seems like the best option is to clear the decks for a quick rebuild around Whiteside.

Shoot me a message when you are appointed. I want to work out something before FA if possible.

Saw your offers so let's bring the negotiations out in public. Any chance of a package that includes Hood?

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Once and if I am appointed, I would be interested. Not sure I understand the Brook Lopez trade but whatever. Seems like the best option is to clear the decks for a quick rebuild around Whiteside.

Shoot me a message when you are appointed. I want to work out something before FA if possible.

Saw your offers so let's bring the negotiations out in public. Any chance of a package that includes Hood?

Here's the offers:

Here's are the offers I can make and you have to choose one of them, or tell me if there is something else you are thinking about:

Version 1:
UTA gets Goran Dragic
MIA gets Derrick Favors

I have a negotiated and agreed on offer for Favors(not completed) - Brandan Wright, Domantas Sabonis, OKC 2020 1st(top 5 protected). If you prefer this return, you can get this one

Version 2:
UTA gets Goran Dragic
MIA gets 2 of (Dante Exum, Trey Lyles, 2018 first round pick, rights to Hamidou Diallo) + Boris Diaw(he's not guaranteed, you can waive him or keep him if you want)

Thoughts?

I'm not interested in trading Hood for Dragic.

[BullyKing]

Let me give some time to see if anyone else is interested in Dragic.

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Let me give some time to see if anyone else is interested in Dragic.

Sure... Can you give me an indication about which offer you are leaning towards, so I can analyze what else I would have to do with my roster if you choose my offer?

Cheers

[BullyKing]

Let me give some time to see if anyone else is interested in Dragic.

Sure... Can you give me an indication about which offer you are leaning towards, so I can analyze what else I would have to do with my roster if you choose my offer?

Cheers

Since the Heat took Markanan, not interested in the OKC package so it would have to be something based on the second framework.

[stitches]

Let me give some time to see if anyone else is interested in Dragic.

Sure... Can you give me an indication about which offer you are leaning towards, so I can analyze what else I would have to do with my roster if you choose my offer?

Cheers

Since the Heat took Markanan, not interested in the OKC package so it would have to be something based on the second framework.

Thanks.

[jayjaysee]

Let me give some time to see if anyone else is interested in Dragic.

The Pacers will be interested in Dragon if Teague doesn't resign.. But I don't know when free agency is starting because of the missing GM's.

[sportscrazy]

I hate all this trading guys multiple times. This was supposed to be realistic. That's why I joined.

So far the Suns have been pretty realistic and declined about 50 trades.

Same here. I tried to strike some deals... mainly with you , but the only finalized deal I have is to trade Alec Burks away.

I have to be honest, I agree. The intent for this was to see what teams would realistically do given their resources at hand and real life direction of the team. I kind of lost my passion for managing this project since it became a generic, unrealistic build the best roster kind of thing that is done in other projects. I would love for some one else to take over at this point, but I'll finish it out for those that made it this far.

[xSABOx]

So far the Suns have been pretty realistic and declined about 50 trades.

Same here. I tried to strike some deals... mainly with you , but the only finalized deal I have is to trade Alec Burks away.

I have to be honest, I agree. The intent for this was to see what teams would realistically do given their resources at hand and real life direction of the team. I kind of lost my passion for managing this project since it became a generic, unrealistic build the best roster kind of thing that is done in other projects. I would love for some one else to take over at this point, but I'll finish it out for those that made it this far.

I agree, to an extent... for the most part the trades formulated into a 3 way deal which is typical.. but it was just so drawn out and out in the open it looked like guys were being moved left and right... if you go through most rosters are pretty much the same except a few teams... besides Gasol, Beal and maybeee IT it's been run realistic all things considered...

My recommendation? Next time be the owner above the GM and give them like an off season agenda (for example Tear it down, retool, untouchable list, etc)

The draft process was cool but there has to be timer to that and guys need to realize that 2nd round players aren't worth holding up a draft for 3 days, 80% of the guys turn out to be scrubs anyways...

All in all I thought you did a solid job running things, it's not a small project and hope you stick to it...

Lot of us stuck with the game plan and kept it realistic as possible, no reason not to finish it off...

[bwgood77]

Participants, please use the NBA Draft thread until free agency begins.

Last 16 or so pages (the ones over 100 in the Mock Offseason Stage 1 thread) are now merged into the end of this thread.

[DocRI]

As I mentioned in another thread, this kind of devolved from real life management of what teams would do and became flipping players that were just acquired for a better asset to assemble the best team possible. I have no passion for this project as it isn't at all the project I intended to manage any more. I'm going to finish this out for those that made it this far, but I think I'm just going to have every one submit their free agent offers in one thread over the next few days with free agents accepting the best offer, then have a secondary wave of offers for the remaining free agents then wrap this up and move on. I knew it would be a ton of work to manage this project, but thought it would resemble a real life off-season of minor trades rather than tons of block buster deals with teams flipping the starting quality player they just traded for in order to receive a new player sometimes multiple times.

I would love if some one else would just take over at this point because it isn't at all the project I wanted to run any more. But since finding some one to take over at this point isn't realistic and neither are the results of this project, I'll just start two waves of free agent offers with free agents deciding where they sign rather than wasting time on the free agent negotiation aspect for a project that has unrealistic rosters any way this far in.

I'm asking this honestly, and I'm posting it in both threads — do you want to just bag this? No one should be forced to run a game they don't want to be a part of anymore.

[NashtyNas]

I'm asking this honestly, and I'm posting it in both threads — do you want to just bag this? No one should be forced to run a game they don't want to be a part of anymore.

I agree and will never be participating in another game on these boards after the 2 I'm in now are done.
People are extremely flaky and do not honor their word AT ALL.
I've had multiple deals agreed upon that fall through at the last second, we've had numerous people just disappear completely and others not respond for weeks at a time.

I feel sorry for those that took the initiative to start up these games but until we get a more mature audience that can stick to their words, these will never be extremely successful. Thank you for all your efforts SportsCrazy, you were great and I'm sorry it's ended up like this.

[sportscrazy]

I'm asking this honestly, and I'm posting it in both threads — do you want to just bag this? No one should be forced to run a game they don't want to be a part of anymore.

I agree and will never be participating in another game on these boards after the 2 I'm in now are done.
People are extremely flaky and do not honor their word AT ALL.
I've had multiple deals agreed upon that fall through at the last second, we've had numerous people just disappear completely and others not respond for weeks at a time.

I feel sorry for those that took the initiative to start up these games but until we get a more mature audience that can stick to their words, these will never be extremely successful. Thank you for all your efforts SportsCrazy, you were great and I'm sorry it's ended up like this.

I have a few different reactions/ideas...

1. I feel the need to finish this out because all of you did a great job with this that stayed on board and put every bit as much of work into it as I did. I wouldn't want to unfair to those of you that spent time on this.

2. Having said that, I fear starting free agency and having the participation level be inconsistent leading to a free agent signing somewhere without a team that would realistically be interested even making an offer.

3. I also wonder if with the time it takes to manage this for me, if coordinating transactions on the participating level is just as difficult. Basically, by this I'm asking if every one at this point is just doing it just to finish it out or if they're doing it because it's still fun. If it's still fun for every one, I would feel way too guilty just giving up on this. If it's become something that is just time consuming at this point, I would feel way too guilty making every one finish it out.

4. I am thinking of ideas to reward those that have made it this far and would like to still do something along these lines. I would have to really iron it out. But I'm thinking of asking those who would like to participate to let me know then do the mock off-season project I do on the trade board where I mock the off-season for all 30 teams, but different than usual. The different than usual part would be basically running things through the members that would like to assist. Essentially using the United States government chain of command as an example.. I would be President of the mock off-season and the participants would be the house of representatives. They would bring ideas to me, I would bounce ideas off of them, etc. for checks and balances, but I would have the final say.