BlackIce wrote:skorff26 wrote:BlackIce wrote:To follow up my Dally dump..DET and PHO have a blockbuster to announce.
DET INCOMING:
Amare Stoudemire-$15,070,550
Leandro Barbosa-$6,100,000
for
Thaddeus Young-$1,968,120
Allen Iverson-$20,840,625
DET is happy to add our PF of the future in Amare. He is fits in our 'young' movement at age 27, and we feel he will like this team and our direction and plan on signing him to a multi-year extension this offseason. Leandro will be our 6th man and is good value at 6 mill. We take a risk giving up a young stud in thad (who is locked in to his rookie contract for a few more years) and the huge expiring of A.I, but we feel that a Stucky/Iggy/Amare core can both compete now and be a force in this league for years to come. We still have two first rounders in the upcoming draft to either draft a center and SF, or trade for one. PHO did well, seeings as Amare wasn't resigning in PHO in a year.
why22 wrote:pistons aquire: amare, and barbosa
suns aquire: thad young, allen iverson, 2010 first rounder
i am rebuilding this roster around young players and thad young has a great future. also i got a 20 million dollar expiring
so the trade isn't going through since both teams have accepted a different trade.
Although I am sure we didn't discuss my 2010 first, sure throw it in.
pistons acquire: amare, and barbosa
suns acquire: thad young, allen iverson, 2010 first rounder
Fine by me. Do I have to wait another 24 hours now or can you approve? The 24 hours has passed, this is just a technicality.
Trade approved, please update your rosters.
There were veto requests, and I took them under deliberation, but I decided to let this one go through because of
1. Everyone knows that Phoenix hates the luxury tax, and this definitely gets them below their. (Also, I think this is a trade that Phoenix may actually do in real life since they save something like 20 million dollars next year and get a young player with loads of potential in young)
2. Kind of goes with #1 but I firmly believe that Phoenix will do whatever they can to get below the luxury tax line this summer since they will not want to pay the luxury tax for a non-playoff team.
3. Amare has had his share of injury concerns
4. IMO the chances of Amare staying in Phoenix are slim, he will want to go somewhere that he gets lots of money and somewhere that he could win, right now it looks like several teams will have money to offer him a max deal, and some definitely have more quality young players than Phoenix does, so he could definitely bolt in free agency and it's better to get something for him than nothing
5. Other GM's were also upset about Barbosa being in the deal as well, but which has more value cap space or Barbosa on a long-term deal (Camby was traded for cap-space and cap-space probably is more valuable now than it was last year because of the economy); I think Barbosa has a little bit more value than cap-space but there isn't a huge difference.
6. the 1st rounder in 2010 from detroit, detroit is rebuilding thus this pick could end up being fairly high
7. as stated in #2, phoenix missed the playoffs thus it probably is time to rebuild their old team and lots of cap space and 2 good young players (young and 1st rounder) is a start
-with any other team, I'd probably would have leaned towards not letting it through, but with phoenix's history of cutting salary it makes sense for them in a way. I think that Phoenix should trade amare since there's a good chance of him bolting in free agency and they aren't a playoff team now anyway; I do think that Phoenix could have gotten more for him (but I don't know what kind of offers phoenix's GM got, this could have been the best one and he took it)