FUTURE DRAFT GAMES - NEW THREAD 2/21/22

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Re: FUTURE DRAFT GAMES - NEW THREAD 2/21/22 

Post#1961 » by Snakebites » Tue Jan 28, 2025 1:12 am

Laimbeer wrote:Mesh Finals Teams
Two round draft
(eliminated similar teams that made finals multiple times)

2024 Boston Celtics
2024 Dallas Mavericks
2023 Denver Nuggets
2023 Miami Heat
2021 Milwaukee Bucks
2021 Phoenix Suns
2020 Los Angeles Lakers
2019 Toronto Raptors
2018 Cleveland Cavaliers
2017 Golden State Warriors
2013 Miami Heat
2012 Oklahoma City Thunder
2011 Dallas Mavericks
2009 Los Angeles Lakers
2009 Orlando Magic
2008 Boston Celtics
2006 Miami Heat
2004 Detroit Pistons
2003 San Antonio Spurs
2003 New Jersey Nets
2002 New Jersey Nets
2001 Philadelphia 76ers
2000 Los Angeles Lakers
2000 Indiana Pacers
1999 New York Knicks
1997 Utah Jazz
1996 Seattle SuperSonics
1995 Orlando Magic
1994 New York Knicks
1992 Chicago Bulls
1990 Portland Trail Blazers
1989 Detroit Pistons
1986 Houston Rockets
1985 Los Angeles Lakers
1983 Philadelphia 76ers

Probably wanna make that 2005 Pistons.

Sheed doesn’t have enough games to be eligible in 2004.
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Post#1962 » by durantbird » Tue Jan 28, 2025 2:13 pm

Continuing Laimbeer's suggestion, another version of the two franchises mesh can be meshing the pools of draft picks per club.

E.g., you draft the Lakers and Timberwolves - you can use players who were draft picks for Lakers or TWolves.

Somewhat similar to the previous two franchises mesh, but still different, and unlike the previous iteration, every player can only be selected for one team, that means we can also arrange a more orthodox voting procedure.
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Post#1963 » by Fadeaway_J » Tue Jan 28, 2025 6:51 pm

Could we do the mesh concept with a full draft? (Not sure if that's what durantbird was suggesting.)
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Post#1964 » by durantbird » Tue Jan 28, 2025 7:21 pm

Fadeaway_J wrote:Could we do the mesh concept with a full draft? (Not sure if that's what durantbird was suggesting.)

Yes, that's what I meant.

Question is - is it realistic to demand half the team composition (I mean, 4 players from each club)? E.g. for Miami Heat there are very few interesting names, probably only Wade and Bam https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/MIA/draft.html

Funnily, a team like Charlotte becomes much more of a bargain with Kobe-Zo-SGA etc.
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Post#1965 » by Fadeaway_J » Tue Jan 28, 2025 7:33 pm

durantbird wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:Could we do the mesh concept with a full draft? (Not sure if that's what durantbird was suggesting.)

Yes, that's what I meant.

Question is - is it realistic to demand half the team composition (I mean, 4 players from each club)? E.g. for Miami Heat there are very few interesting names, probably only Wade and Bam https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/MIA/draft.html

Funnily, a team like Charlotte becomes much more of a bargain with Kobe-Zo-SGA etc.

Tbh, I wasn't looking specifically at the draft pick concept. I think that one works better as a non-draft idea, as we'd all be picking from completely separate pools.

With regards to your idea, the teams with limited options would naturally fall to the bottom of the order (if they get chosen at all).
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Re: FUTURE DRAFT GAMES - NEW THREAD 2/21/22 

Post#1966 » by Snakebites » Tue Jan 28, 2025 9:26 pm

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durantbird wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:Could we do the mesh concept with a full draft? (Not sure if that's what durantbird was suggesting.)

Yes, that's what I meant.

Question is - is it realistic to demand half the team composition (I mean, 4 players from each club)? E.g. for Miami Heat there are very few interesting names, probably only Wade and Bam https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/MIA/draft.html

Funnily, a team like Charlotte becomes much more of a bargain with Kobe-Zo-SGA etc.

Tbh, I wasn't looking specifically at the draft pick concept. I think that one works better as a non-draft idea, as we'd all be picking from completely separate pools.

With regards to your idea, the teams with limited options would naturally fall to the bottom of the order (if they get chosen at all).

Yeah I really like the idea of a mesh draft based on where players were drafted rather than seasons they played in. We could draft the franchises then build the teams.

To an extent it makes things harder- each team has a more limited pool to work with, but maybe we like that. The teams were too stacked in the other game.

Celtics seem like they might still be OP. They lose elite secondary options like Horford and Derrick White but also gain Chauncey Billups. They do lose flexibility in that they also lose KG and Ray, but winning teams have been built in each of the last 2 games without them. That was a major issue with this game- that the Celtics simply dominated it. Not having White (the non-All Star All Star) probably helps a little bit on balance but that's still a remarkably flexible group.

Meanwhile the Lakers lose Kareem, Shaq, Kobe, Lebron, AD and probably others. The Heat become a very weak team overall. Both of those are interesting.
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Post#1967 » by durantbird » Wed Jan 29, 2025 6:05 pm

Yeah I like my two last ideas lol. Popular + Unpopular guys pairings, and mesh Draft Cores.

But personally I'd be in for something more simple next game personally, I'm not in the mood for something that requires too much thinking, like a simple 8 rounds draft. Maybe other guys feel otherwise, that's fine.
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Post#1968 » by Fadeaway_J » Wed Jan 29, 2025 6:16 pm

The Franchise Draft Lockdown Game: we can collectively choose a specific number of players (let's say four or five) from each franchise's pool of drafted players, and then that pool becomes locked down entirely.

For example, I start with Tim Duncan, wack picks David Robinson, Snake takes Manu Ginobili, and durantbird picks Derrick White. From that point on, nobody who was drafted by the Spurs can be selected. It's a simple thing to track using Basketball Reference.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/draft/

Undrafted players would count towards the franchise where they played their first NBA game.
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Post#1969 » by Snakebites » Wed Jan 29, 2025 9:11 pm

Fadeaway_J wrote:The Franchise Draft Lockdown Game: we can collectively choose a specific number of players (let's say four or five) from each franchise's pool of drafted players, and then that pool becomes locked down entirely.

For example, I start with Tim Duncan, wack picks David Robinson, Snake takes Manu Ginobili, and durantbird picks Derrick White. From that point on, nobody who was drafted by the Spurs can be selected. It's a simple thing to track using Basketball Reference.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/draft/

Undrafted players would count towards the franchise where they played their first NBA game.

I'd say either this or the Draft Mesh game DB suggested are my favorite recent options I've seen.
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Post#1970 » by Fadeaway_J » Fri Jan 31, 2025 3:30 pm

Snakebites wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:The Franchise Draft Lockdown Game: we can collectively choose a specific number of players (let's say four or five) from each franchise's pool of drafted players, and then that pool becomes locked down entirely.

For example, I start with Tim Duncan, wack picks David Robinson, Snake takes Manu Ginobili, and durantbird picks Derrick White. From that point on, nobody who was drafted by the Spurs can be selected. It's a simple thing to track using Basketball Reference.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/draft/

Undrafted players would count towards the franchise where they played their first NBA game.

I'd say either this or the Draft Mesh game DB suggested are my favorite recent options I've seen.

No idea what the rest of the board thinks, but since nothing else is gaining momentum I guess I'll start it later today.
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Post#1971 » by durantbird » Fri Jan 31, 2025 9:59 pm

Fadeaway_J wrote:
Snakebites wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:The Franchise Draft Lockdown Game: we can collectively choose a specific number of players (let's say four or five) from each franchise's pool of drafted players, and then that pool becomes locked down entirely.

For example, I start with Tim Duncan, wack picks David Robinson, Snake takes Manu Ginobili, and durantbird picks Derrick White. From that point on, nobody who was drafted by the Spurs can be selected. It's a simple thing to track using Basketball Reference.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/draft/

Undrafted players would count towards the franchise where they played their first NBA game.

I'd say either this or the Draft Mesh game DB suggested are my favorite recent options I've seen.

No idea what the rest of the board thinks, but since nothing else is gaining momentum I guess I'll start it later today.

I didn't see you wrote this before starting my new signups, sorry. But at least personally I wouldn't have sign up for this for now, as I was looking for something more sinple
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Post#1972 » by durantbird » Fri Feb 7, 2025 6:57 pm

Old School Champions (teams that won a ring in the 80s or earlier, but not afterwards)

OKC Sacramento Atlanta Knicks Hawks Wizards Philly Detroit

This pool is more difficult than usual, but I think there's enough top end talent
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Post#1973 » by migya » Sat Feb 8, 2025 5:10 am

Star duos and players from same franchise. Pick two superstars (At least all nba teamer AND top 10 mvp voted) from same franchise, both players don't have to have played together (eg. Jerry West and Lebron Lakers). Rest of team must be from same frachise chosen season. Maybe Post 1960.
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Post#1974 » by JimmyPlopper » Sat Feb 8, 2025 5:36 am

Ever done a 20th century draft? Anyone who played a game or more in the 21st century is ineligible
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Post#1975 » by MadNESS » Sat Feb 8, 2025 4:44 pm

The Eraser Draft?

All 1’s & 2’s drafted have to have 1.0 SPG or more and .7 BPG or more per season selected

All 3’s drafted have to have 1.0 SPG and 1.0 BPG per season selected

All 4’s and 5’s drafted have to have 1.7 BPG and .7 SPG or more per season selected

Numbers can be adjusted
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Post#1976 » by MadNESS » Sat Feb 8, 2025 4:47 pm

Maybe make the 5’s higher like 2.5 and .7
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Post#1977 » by MadNESS » Sat Feb 8, 2025 7:03 pm

Trade deadline draft?

Anyone who’s been traded after the season started, until the deadline, the last 5 (or 7, or 9?) seasons can be drafted only?
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Post#1978 » by MadNESS » Sat Feb 8, 2025 7:04 pm

70’s/80’s stars draft?

Your only all NBA guys can be from the 70’s/80’s
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Post#1979 » by MadNESS » Sat Feb 8, 2025 7:06 pm

5 worst franchises draft. The teams we all hate to use in these games….

Hawks, Wizards, Knicks, Nets, Kings, Clippers?

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Post#1980 » by Laimbeer » Sat Feb 8, 2025 10:39 pm

MadNESS wrote:Trade deadline draft?

Anyone who’s been traded after the season started, until the deadline, the last 5 (or 7, or 9?) seasons can be drafted only?


Pairs draft - the pair must have been involved in the same trade.
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2) He can be traded later
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4) The cap is going up
5) It's only __ years
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