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Post#1981 » by flaco » Fri Feb 4, 2022 5:14 pm

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flaco wrote:Here's an idea:

We can draft up to 2 players from each of the following regions for a total of 8 players per team.

- USA
- The Americas excluding the USA
- Europe
- Africa
- Asia and Oceania (Russia and Turkey could count as either asian or european depending on what fits your strategy)

Nationality is determined by wikipedia/whichever site you guys want.

This could work as a pairs draft, i.e. two picks at a time.

For the USA I'd add another restriction like same birth state

Not sure about the pairs idea tbh. Imagine drafting both Jordan and LeBron at #1. The game would practically end before it even started. :o
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1982 » by Fadeaway_J » Fri Feb 4, 2022 5:44 pm

flaco wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:
flaco wrote:Here's an idea:

We can draft up to 2 players from each of the following regions for a total of 8 players per team.

- USA
- The Americas excluding the USA
- Europe
- Africa
- Asia and Oceania (Russia and Turkey could count as either asian or european depending on what fits your strategy)

Nationality is determined by wikipedia/whichever site you guys want.

This could work as a pairs draft, i.e. two picks at a time.

For the USA I'd add another restriction like same birth state

Not sure about the pairs idea tbh. Imagine drafting both Jordan and LeBron at #1. The game would practically end before it even started. :o

We have restrictions for pairs drafts to prevent that from happening. Usually it's one All-NBA First Team player per pair.
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1983 » by Snakebites » Fri Feb 4, 2022 6:02 pm

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Fadeaway_J wrote:This could work as a pairs draft, i.e. two picks at a time.

For the USA I'd add another restriction like same birth state

Not sure about the pairs idea tbh. Imagine drafting both Jordan and LeBron at #1. The game would practically end before it even started. :o

We have restrictions for pairs drafts to prevent that from happening. Usually it's one All-NBA First Team player per pair.

Yeah, that tends to make it more balanced.

If we're being totally honest, it doesn't make it fully balanced, but no draft ever is. Certain draft positions will always have an advantage in a draft- whether earlier, late, or mid picks have the advantage depends on the depth of the pool and the number of drafters, and sometimes the twist, too.
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Post#1984 » by Dr Positivity » Mon Feb 7, 2022 7:30 am

One weak defender draft - 7 players must have made an all defense team, 1 exception
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Post#1985 » by Colbinii » Mon Feb 7, 2022 3:04 pm

Dr Positivity wrote:One weak defender draft - 7 players must have made an all defense team, 1 exception


This could work but the pool would need to span since the inception of the All-Defensive team.
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Post#1986 » by damecurry » Wed Feb 9, 2022 12:37 am

The one ring only draft: Only franchises that have one championship are eligible. There are nine: Toronto Raptors (2019), Cleveland Cavaliers (2016), Dallas Mavericks (2011), Seattle Supersonics/Oklahoma City Thunder (1979), Baltimore/Washington Bullets/Washington Wizards (1978), Portland Trail Blazers (1977), St. Louis/Atlanta Hawks (1958), Baltimore Bullets (1948; folded in 1954), and Rochester/Cincinnati Royals/Kansas City/Sacramento Kings (1951).

I would want to do it as an all-time draft, player pool would be pretty deep but not insane with lakers/celtics/spurs etc. off-limits. We'd want at least 10-12 drafters. I think it'd be cool.... we haven't done this before have we? lol
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Post#1987 » by flaco » Wed Feb 9, 2022 8:06 am

Dr Positivity wrote:We could also do one with 2 players from four countries of your choice at some point, maybe even picking them as pairs

I like this idea. It changes the way we usually value players. For instance, would Hakeem be a surefire first rounder if you had to pair him with a mediocre nigerian player (let's say Al-Faruq Aminu)? Or would you rather have Embiid to pair him with Siakam?
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Post#1988 » by damecurry » Wed Feb 9, 2022 1:03 pm

Just thought of this, might be kinda messy, but fun.

Reverse draft order: The first 6 rounds no-one who ever made a 1st or 2nd All-NBA team is available, the last 2 rounds they are.

Or something like that. I like the idea of being forced to take your roleplayers and build the base of your team without knowing what stars you'll be getting. Really changes the planning and strategy of the draft.
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Post#1989 » by Laimbeer » Wed Feb 9, 2022 1:12 pm

damecurry wrote:Just thought of this, might be kinda messy, but fun.

Reverse draft order: The first 6 rounds no-one who ever made a 1st or 2nd All-NBA team is available, the last 2 rounds they are.

Or something like that. I like the idea of being forced to take your roleplayers and build the base of your team without knowing what stars you'll be getting. Really changes the planning and strategy of the draft.


Wouldn't mind something like this. Maybe the draft order should be randomized again before the last two rounds? It would prevent people at the top of round seven from knowing who their main guy might be. I mean, if you have a top two pick in round seven you could count on Mike or LeBron.
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Post#1990 » by Colbinii » Wed Feb 9, 2022 2:11 pm

damecurry wrote:Just thought of this, might be kinda messy, but fun.

Reverse draft order: The first 6 rounds no-one who ever made a 1st or 2nd All-NBA team is available, the last 2 rounds they are.

Or something like that. I like the idea of being forced to take your roleplayers and build the base of your team without knowing what stars you'll be getting. Really changes the planning and strategy of the draft.


We did something similar where there was a FGA restriction which increased with each pick. It was a really fun draft (1 player allowed who was All-NBA 1st or MVP)...until I accidentally picked Penny Hardaway for my player.
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Post#1991 » by Colbinii » Wed Feb 9, 2022 2:13 pm

I like the idea of Dr P or Dame Curry reverse draft. I think since we just did international and multiple "Pool of X teams" drafts, those are the most appealing.
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Post#1992 » by Colbinii » Wed Feb 9, 2022 2:20 pm

I am also very much interested in a "Your previous pick affects your next pick" type draft.

The 3 degrees of separation draft looked cool [I don't think I played it]. I loved the road trip draft.

Perhaps something revolving around "Your next pick had to play for the same coach as your first previous pick". The issue I always run into is LeBron has played on so many teams, with so many teammates, with so many coaches, he. is both a great 1st pick from a talent perspective but also so many avenues.
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Post#1993 » by Laimbeer » Wed Feb 9, 2022 2:59 pm

Fadeaway_J wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:Players who never played in a college game in the US?

I've had this idea in my head for a while. Not sure the depth is there though - the preps-to-pros pool is pretty shallow, while a number of international players would be ineligible.


How about a draft of players with at least four seasons in college?
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Post#1994 » by Fadeaway_J » Wed Feb 9, 2022 3:09 pm

Laimbeer wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:Players who never played in a college game in the US?

I've had this idea in my head for a while. Not sure the depth is there though - the preps-to-pros pool is pretty shallow, while a number of international players would be ineligible.


How about a draft of players with at least four seasons in college?

Is there a way to research that easily?
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Post#1995 » by Laimbeer » Wed Feb 9, 2022 3:23 pm

Fadeaway_J wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:I've had this idea in my head for a while. Not sure the depth is there though - the preps-to-pros pool is pretty shallow, while a number of international players would be ineligible.


How about a draft of players with at least four seasons in college?

Is there a way to research that easily?


BR profiles is the only way I know of.
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Post#1996 » by damecurry » Wed Feb 9, 2022 3:57 pm

Laimbeer wrote:
damecurry wrote:Just thought of this, might be kinda messy, but fun.

Reverse draft order: The first 6 rounds no-one who ever made a 1st or 2nd All-NBA team is available, the last 2 rounds they are.

Or something like that. I like the idea of being forced to take your roleplayers and build the base of your team without knowing what stars you'll be getting. Really changes the planning and strategy of the draft.


Wouldn't mind something like this. Maybe the draft order should be randomized again before the last two rounds? It would prevent people at the top of round seven from knowing who their main guy might be. I mean, if you have a top two pick in round seven you could count on Mike or LeBron.


I dont this this is necessary because you'll have no idea who your Robin will be at the top. And it's really only the top pick that can plan to build around a specific guy, cause 2nd pick won't know if he gets MJ or LeBron and those are pretty different scenarios.

I'd also be a fan of a different time span for this one, I get really sick of 90s to now. What about 80s to 2010? Would mix it up a little.
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Post#1997 » by Laimbeer » Wed Feb 9, 2022 4:05 pm

How about a cross era - 2020's 2000s 1980s
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Post#1998 » by damecurry » Wed Feb 9, 2022 4:12 pm

Laimbeer wrote:How about a cross era - 2020's 2000s 1980s

2020s is only 2 seasons lol
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Post#1999 » by Laimbeer » Wed Feb 9, 2022 5:10 pm

damecurry wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:How about a cross era - 2020's 2000s 1980s

2020s is only 2 seasons lol


True, just thought I'd throw in the current cast.
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Post#2000 » by damecurry » Wed Feb 9, 2022 10:13 pm

Colbinii wrote:I like the idea of Dr P or Dame Curry reverse draft. I think since we just did international and multiple "Pool of X teams" drafts, those are the most appealing.

The reverse draft seems to have the most interest so I'll go ahead and launch sign-ups for that sometime tonight. Current draft is almost finished.

Note: to work with the concept I will be changing from the modified snake to just a normal snake draft, this will make it so the drafters at the end of round 1 will have the swing picks on rounds 7/8 which is what will matter for them, so I think just a standard snake is optimal.

Also I haven't made a firm decision on year range, leaning towards 80-00s but would be open to a cross era 80s/00s/20s or something if that's what others want.

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