Mock Off-Season: Free Agency Day 1

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Re: Mock Off-Season: Free Agency Day 1 

Post#21 » by DocRI » Tue Jun 6, 2017 8:28 am

Ayatollah wrote:
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Ayatollah wrote:The Pelicans offer Moore, Asik, 2019 2nd Rd pick and a trade exception (Buddy Hield) for Wes Matthews. You can use the stretch provision of Asik to save a bunch of money while I aquiring much needed shooting.


The New Orleans Pelicans offer Hill, Frazier and their 2018 1st (top-20 protected) for Reggie Jackson.


Thats a really fair offer, and you have my attention.

Talk to me about the protection on the pick; if it starts at top 20 next year, what kind of schedule of decreasing protection do you have in mind? I'm not interested if it's a "Nerlens-Noel-type" first that is guaranteed to never convey and then turns into two seconds, but if it's reasonable, we could do business here.

Thanks!

Thanks for your quick answer.

The protection would decrease to top-18 in 2019 and lotto-protected in 2020.

If you would take on Hill and Moore instead of Frazier, the protection would be: lotto-protected in 2018, top-10 in 2019, top-6 in 2020.


Can you take Boban back?
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Free Agency Day 1 

Post#22 » by Mich3006 » Tue Jun 6, 2017 8:38 am

DocRI wrote:
Ayatollah wrote:
DocRI wrote:
Thats a really fair offer, and you have my attention.

Talk to me about the protection on the pick; if it starts at top 20 next year, what kind of schedule of decreasing protection do you have in mind? I'm not interested if it's a "Nerlens-Noel-type" first that is guaranteed to never convey and then turns into two seconds, but if it's reasonable, we could do business here.

Thanks!

Thanks for your quick answer.

The protection would decrease to top-18 in 2019 and lotto-protected in 2020.

If you would take on Hill and Moore instead of Frazier, the protection would be: lotto-protected in 2018, top-10 in 2019, top-6 in 2020.


Can you take Boban back?

For Hill and Moore?
I“d accept Hill, Moore, 2018 1st (top-18 in 2018/lotto-protected in 2019/top-10 protected in 2020) for Jackson and your big guy.

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To make things easier for our commissioner (if all participants accept) I“d like to combine my trade proposals:

Mavericks trade: Wes Matthews
Mavericks aquire: Frazier, Asik (like I said, you can use the stretch provision on him), 2019 NOP 2nd
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Pistons trade: Jackson, Marjanovic
Pistons aquire: Hill, Moore, 2018 NOP 1st (top-18 in 2018/lotto-protected in 2019/top-10 protected in 2020)
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Pelicans trade: Asik, Moore, Hill, Frazier, 2018 1st, 2019 2nd
Pelicans aquire: Jackson, Marjanovic, Matthews
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Post#23 » by DocRI » Tue Jun 6, 2017 9:09 am

Ayatollah wrote:
DocRI wrote:
Ayatollah wrote:Thanks for your quick answer.

The protection would decrease to top-18 in 2019 and lotto-protected in 2020.

If you would take on Hill and Moore instead of Frazier, the protection would be: lotto-protected in 2018, top-10 in 2019, top-6 in 2020.


Can you take Boban back?

For Hill and Moore?
I“d accept Hill, Moore, 2018 1st (top-18 in 2018/lotto-protected in 2019/top-10 protected in 2020) for Jackson and your big guy.

Texas Chuck wrote:.

To make things easier for our commissioner (if all participants accept) I“d like to combine my trade proposals:

Mavericks trade: Wes Matthews
Mavericks aquire: Frazier, Asik (like I said, you can use the stretch provision on him), 2019 NOP 2nd
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Pistons trade: Jackson, Marjanovic
Pistons aquire: Hill, Moore, 2018 NOP 1st (top-18 in 2018/lotto-protected in 2019/top-10 protected in 2020)
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Pelicans trade: Asik, Moore, Hill, Frazier, 2018 1st, 2019 2nd
Pelicans aquire: Jackson, Marjanovic, Matthews


Our part of this is a go. Pleasure doing business with you! :beer:

I'll wait on Chuck before PMing the trade to sportscrazy. I assume we're still good to go if he declines?

Thanks again and good luck through the rest of free agency (with both your teams)!
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Post#24 » by Spens1 » Tue Jun 6, 2017 9:11 am

New York Knicks Offer:

At P.G:

1. Darren Collison - 3years/21 million (7 million per, player option for year 3)

We Think that he could be a fantastic backup P.G and could play significant minutes behind Elfrid Payton (probably between 22-24MPG). We are offering a flexible deal as we think that in this time period he can improve his own value to the point where he could enter the open market again and get a much larger deal.

At S.G:

Option 1:

Ben McLemore - 3/21 million (7 million per year)

Pending on if Sacramento matches this. We believe that McLemore would definitely be able to rebuild his career in the big apple. The same way we are looking at rebuilding Jahlil Okafor's career, we believe that McLemore could really grow and thrive. He would be under the tutelage of Courtney Lee as well as playing in Jeff Hornacek's system, we think he would fit in right away.

Option 2 (If McLemore is matched):

Tyreke Evans - 3/21 million (7 million per, player option for year 3).

Again, We think he can play significant minutes off the bench in a backup role. Even surpassing Courtney Lee perhaps if he plays well enough. We think that New York could really revive his career.

We'd also like to make invites for our summer league squad to:

Kobi Simmons
LJ Peak
Sterling Brown

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Re: Mock Off-Season: Free Agency Day 1 

Post#25 » by Mich3006 » Tue Jun 6, 2017 9:14 am

DocRI wrote:
Ayatollah wrote:
DocRI wrote:
Can you take Boban back?

For Hill and Moore?
I“d accept Hill, Moore, 2018 1st (top-18 in 2018/lotto-protected in 2019/top-10 protected in 2020) for Jackson and your big guy.

Texas Chuck wrote:.

To make things easier for our commissioner (if all participants accept) I“d like to combine my trade proposals:

Mavericks trade: Wes Matthews
Mavericks aquire: Frazier, Asik (like I said, you can use the stretch provision on him), 2019 NOP 2nd
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Pistons trade: Jackson, Marjanovic
Pistons aquire: Hill, Moore, 2018 NOP 1st (top-18 in 2018/lotto-protected in 2019/top-10 protected in 2020)
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Pelicans trade: Asik, Moore, Hill, Frazier, 2018 1st, 2019 2nd
Pelicans aquire: Jackson, Marjanovic, Matthews


Our part of this is a go. Pleasure doing business with you! :beer:

I'll wait on Chuck before PMing the trade to sportscrazy. I assume we're still good to go if he declines?

Thanks again and good luck through the rest of free agency (with both your teams)!

I“ve calculated it once again and Chuck has to take on Marjanovic to get a deal done. Maybe you can send him a 2nd as well?
http://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6872700
I simply can“t take on him, sorry.

Would you still be interested in Hill, Moore, 2018 1st (lotto/top-10/top-6 protected) for Jackson if the Mavs decline?
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Free Agency Day 1 

Post#26 » by kalenclayton » Tue Jun 6, 2017 10:33 am

Ayatollah wrote:The New Orleans Pelicans offer Jonathon Simmons 4y/$44 with the last year a PO. We and especially our new coach Ettore Messina would like to have his talents on both ends of the floor in our team and we could guarantee him a starting spot on the SF.

The Pelicans offer Arron Afflalo a 2y/$5 contract with the 2nd year a PO.


Texas Chuck wrote:.

The Pelicans offer Moore, Asik, 2019 2nd Rd pick and a trade exception (Buddy Hield) for Wes Matthews. You can use the stretch provision of Asik to save a bunch of money while I aquiring much needed shooting.

DocRI wrote:.

The New Orleans Pelicans offer Hill, Frazier and their 2018 1st (top-20 protected) for Reggie Jackson.

The Kings are interested in your 2018 first and would take on Solomon Hill.
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Free Agency Day 1 

Post#27 » by kalenclayton » Tue Jun 6, 2017 10:42 am

The Kings are signing De'Aaron Fox, Justin Jackson, and Jordan Bell each to 100% of the rookie scale. All will be normal 2+2 1st round draft pick scales.
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Post#28 » by Drax » Tue Jun 6, 2017 11:06 am

kalenclayton wrote:The Kings are signing De'Aaron Fox, Justin Jackson, and Jordan Bell each to 100% of the rookie scale. All will be normal 2+2 1st round draft pick scales.


Draft picks usually sign for 120% of the rookie scale, you have a hard time convincing agent sportscrazy that the clients sign 20% less on their first deal.
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Free Agency Day 1 

Post#29 » by Mich3006 » Tue Jun 6, 2017 11:08 am

kalenclayton wrote:The Kings are interested in your 2018 first and would take on Solomon Hill.

I“m in talks with another team about trading my 1st alongside Hill AND Moore so if you want that pick you have to take on both as well.

The Pelicans“ main goal right now is to get off as much cap as possible and everybody, except AD and Boogie, is available btw.
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Post#30 » by kalenclayton » Tue Jun 6, 2017 11:10 am

Ayatollah wrote:
kalenclayton wrote:The Kings are interested in your 2018 first and would take on Solomon Hill.

I“m in talks with another team about trading my 1st alongside Hill AND Moore so if you want that pick you have to take on both as well.

The Pelicans“ main goal right now is to get off as much cap as possible and everybody, except AD and Boogie, is available btw.

We aren't interested in both for just the 2018 pick. We would need 2 picks in order to clear that salary. If your deal falls through let me know.
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Free Agency Day 1 

Post#31 » by kalenclayton » Tue Jun 6, 2017 11:16 am

Drax wrote:
kalenclayton wrote:The Kings are signing De'Aaron Fox, Justin Jackson, and Jordan Bell each to 100% of the rookie scale. All will be normal 2+2 1st round draft pick scales.


Draft picks usually sign for 120% of the rookie scale, you have a hard time convincing agent sportscrazy that the clients sign 20% less on their first deal.

We will see what sportscrazy says. I didn't know about players signing 120% of their rookie scales.
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Free Agency Day 1 

Post#32 » by stitches » Tue Jun 6, 2017 12:13 pm

kalenclayton wrote:
Drax wrote:
kalenclayton wrote:The Kings are signing De'Aaron Fox, Justin Jackson, and Jordan Bell each to 100% of the rookie scale. All will be normal 2+2 1st round draft pick scales.


Draft picks usually sign for 120% of the rookie scale, you have a hard time convincing agent sportscrazy that the clients sign 20% less on their first deal.

We will see what sportscrazy says. I didn't know about players signing 120% of their rookie scales.

For what it's worth I can confirm that players usually sign for 120% of the rookie scale. That's in like ... 99% of the cases. I know of 1 case where it didn't happen - OKC gave Roberson only 80% of the rookie scale. Maybe there are others but it's extremely rare.
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Free Agency Day 1 

Post#33 » by Mich3006 » Tue Jun 6, 2017 12:27 pm

kalenclayton wrote:
Ayatollah wrote:
kalenclayton wrote:The Kings are interested in your 2018 first and would take on Solomon Hill.

I“m in talks with another team about trading my 1st alongside Hill AND Moore so if you want that pick you have to take on both as well.

The Pelicans“ main goal right now is to get off as much cap as possible and everybody, except AD and Boogie, is available btw.

We aren't interested in both for just the 2018 pick. We would need 2 picks in order to clear that salary. If your deal falls through let me know.

What about Hill and Asik for my pick? You can use the stretch provision on Asik.
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Free Agency Day 1 

Post#34 » by bdpecore » Tue Jun 6, 2017 12:38 pm

The Milwaukee Bucks would like to make the following offers:

First, we would like to offer Tony Snell 4yrs/$40MM to resign with the Bucks. We feel he is the perfect fit in our system and was a vital player during last season's playoff run

Second, we would like to offer Michael Beasley the full BAE of $3,290,000 on a one year deal. He was also a great fit and became even more valuable after Jabari went down. We view him as a quality bench scorer who is a great teammate to our younger players and would love for him to be back inn Milwaukee next season. He should also be able to get increased playing time in the first half of the season since Jabari will still be out to help boost his stock before hitting to open market next year.

Third, we would like to invite the following players to be on our summer league team alongside Mathais Lessort, Tyler Dorsey and Dwayne Bacon who we plan on offering contracts to:

Thomas Bryant
Michael Ojo
Peter Jok
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Post#35 » by Prokorov » Tue Jun 6, 2017 12:41 pm

The nets offer Milos Teodosic 3 years/40 million
The Nets meet Milos at midnight the second free agency opens and offer him this deal along with a gauranteed starting spot next to Lin. Prokorov/Marks/Trajoan/Atkinson all meet him to let him know he is a priority and part of the next step in the culture change and rebuild. The nets hope is prokorov owning his team and the strong relationship he and langdan have with milos along with the generous contract and starting role can convince him

The nets offer Dwayne Dedmon 4 years 76 million

The ents believe dedmon is the next whiteside and are willing to pay for it now to convince him to come to the nets. He will be given a starting spot and huge minutes, somethinghe may not get in both places. Nets with their draft and roster moves have changed the face of their front court to an athletic one that defends
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Post#36 » by DerrickNoah » Tue Jun 6, 2017 12:45 pm

Hawks offer Paul Millsap a 5-year deal w/PO
1st - 35M
2nd - 35M
3rd - 35M
4th - 35M
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Post#37 » by stitches » Tue Jun 6, 2017 12:49 pm

The Jazz would like to express interest in Milos Teodosic through his agents, but not extend a formal offer yet. We would like for Milos to know that his dream to play for Quin Snyder and the Jazz might become a reality in case the Jazz are unable to negotiate a contract with George Hill.
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Free Agency Day 1 

Post#38 » by kalenclayton » Tue Jun 6, 2017 1:15 pm

stitches wrote:
kalenclayton wrote:
Drax wrote:
Draft picks usually sign for 120% of the rookie scale, you have a hard time convincing agent sportscrazy that the clients sign 20% less on their first deal.

We will see what sportscrazy says. I didn't know about players signing 120% of their rookie scales.

For what it's worth I can confirm that players usually sign for 120% of the rookie scale. That's in like ... 99% of the cases. I know of 1 case where it didn't happen - OKC gave Roberson only 80% of the rookie scale. Maybe there are others but it's extremely rare.

Great to know. Thanks Drax and stitches. You learn something new every day. If sportscrazy declines my offer, then I will wait until FA is over to sign my draft picks.

sportscrazy wrote:.
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Free Agency Day 1 

Post#39 » by kalenclayton » Tue Jun 6, 2017 1:21 pm

Ayatollah wrote:
kalenclayton wrote:
Ayatollah wrote:I“m in talks with another team about trading my 1st alongside Hill AND Moore so if you want that pick you have to take on both as well.

The Pelicans“ main goal right now is to get off as much cap as possible and everybody, except AD and Boogie, is available btw.

We aren't interested in both for just the 2018 pick. We would need 2 picks in order to clear that salary. If your deal falls through let me know.

What about Hill and Asik for my pick? You can use the stretch provision on Asik.

Asik is going to take a lot to dump by himself. We would charge two 1sts alone because he would be completely dead money to us. Hill serves a purpose on our team. That is why I would take a top-20 protected first That would gradually become less protected.
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Free Agency Day 1 

Post#40 » by Mich3006 » Tue Jun 6, 2017 1:30 pm

kalenclayton wrote:
Ayatollah wrote:
kalenclayton wrote:We aren't interested in both for just the 2018 pick. We would need 2 picks in order to clear that salary. If your deal falls through let me know.

What about Hill and Asik for my pick? You can use the stretch provision on Asik.

Asik is going to take a lot to dump by himself. We would charge two 1sts alone because he would be completely dead money to us. Hill serves a purpose on our team. That is why I would take a top-20 protected first That would gradually become less protected.

With the stretch provision Asik would take $4 of your salary floor...

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