All-Time Draft Voting: Votes Due by midnight EST Saturday

[CellarDoor]

I'm taking TMAC for the reasons I stated before. He's just too potent on offense with Bird/Wade and Robinson and I think DJ can at least make Oscar work. (he's got the same size difference Cooper does with Bird really, maybe even a little less).

And I'm taking Warspite. I don't feel like Fingerroll has the personnel to exploit Warspites horrendous perimeter defense, and even though I feel a Moses/KG front court leaves a lot to be desired offensively in terms of a "go-to" scorer, it's hard to argue with that team.

[bryant08]

Everyone votes on 2 matchups except for myself.

[Snakebites]

^Yeah, just realized that. Derrrr.

The outside judges also vote for 3.

[CellarDoor]

Everyone votes on 2 matchups except for myself.

If any of the lower seeds continue participating, then they would as well. (BlackIce, etc)

[Snakebites]

Alright, I have decided to hand in my rulings. These were a couple of interesting matchups in that they involved teams that were noted by their differences, where as mine and Cellar's matchup was noted for similarities between the teams.

In the matchup of TMAC v. poopdamoop, I must vote in favor of TMAC. I really felt that the West/BigO/Walton trio had potential, but the usage of players like Eaton and Cooper in critical rotation spots made it a tougher sell. Poop has a very good team, but ultimately the dynamite trio TMAC has with a solid 8 man rotation to surround them with was too tough to pass up in this matchup. Much respect to both competitors for building very strong teams.

In the matchup of Warspite v. Fingerroll, I must vote in favor of Warspite. I felt this was a battle of opposites as it were, and ultimately I had to look at the matchups to see who would be more stretched. Ultimately, I decided that Finger didn't have the right mix of offensive players to exploit defensive issues with War's team, and I felt that War's team was balanced and deep enough offensively to come on top against the stellar defense. Again, much respect to both competitors for having well thought out writeups and well put together teams. This was about the matchups.

[Finger Roll]

Yeah, all competitors vote on the matchups other than their own; outside judges vote on every matchup.

Sorry to keep this brief, but I'll be on later with more specifics.

[poopdamoop]

I'll have my judgements up by tomorrow morning hopefully

[poopdamoop]

Ok I'm voting for Snakebites and Warspite. Explanations to come later.

[CellarDoor]

We need to put a clock on this...Write-ups were due Monday at 11 and only two people have votes and explanations, 3 votes total?

[Gremz]

Votes for Round 1.

TMACFORMVP & Warspite, mainly for the reasons listed above. The big trio for TMAC is just WAY too much firepower, and I do believe they are great fits. For Warspite, the well rounded team firepower and getting away with a weaker perimeter D gives him the win for me.

I'm gonna even up the Snakebites and CellarDoor series with a vote for CellarDoor. This is a REALLY hard first round matchup. I do think that Cellar has the perfect defense to restrict Jordan. The Center and PF battles are quite close, and there is enough creativity on both to cancel each other out. I just see the slight restriction in Jordan's productivity as a factor here. It's incredibly even though.

And yeah, Bryant.

[CellarDoor]

Votes for Round 1.

TMACFORMVP & Warspite, mainly for the reasons listed above. The big trio for TMAC is just WAY too much firepower, and I do believe they are great fits. For Warspite, the well rounded team firepower and getting away with a weaker perimeter D gives him the win for me.

I'm gonna even up the Snakebites and CellarDoor series with a vote for CellarDoor. This is a REALLY hard first round matchup. I do think that Cellar has the perfect defense to restrict Jordan. The Center and PF battles are quite close, and there is enough creativity on both to cancel each other out. I just see the slight restriction in Jordan's productivity as a factor here. It's incredibly even though.

And yeah, Bryant.

Typical Gremz voting to even the series to avoid any actual decisionmaking.

Wait, he voted for me. Nevermind. Nice job Gremz!

[Snakebites]

I would also like a clock on this please.

[Warspite]

Vote Gremz and Snakebites

Im taking Gremz because Wilt is the only player that can handle KAJ and the combo of Dirk and Baylor realy can work well together. Its my belief that Gremz team has too much firepower.


Im taking Snakebites because I believe Cellerdoors def team cant score enough consistantly to build up large leads that MJ cant over come. Gilmore and Lucas also handle the inside game very well. Since both are better players than Pippen I expect MJ to be even more effective and be able to trust his teammates more.

[CellarDoor]

Vote Gremz and Snakebites

Im taking Gremz because I believe Walton is 100% and that hes going be able to play extended mins. I also think he has the most undderrated team and in a series he matches up well enough to carry the day.

Im taking Snakebites because I believe Cellerdoors def team cant score enough consistantly to build up large leads that MJ cant over come. Gilmore and Lucas also handle the inside game very well. Since both are better players than Pippen I expect MJ to be even more effective and be able to trust his teammates more.

Did you mean to say Gremz? He doesn't have Walton.

[Snakebites]

Dude, we've both had the chance to plead our case.

Thats not right. This is the voting thread.

I hope you don't run for office, you'd probably be disqualified for trying to talk to the voters in the balloting. Its not a big deal, but thats a classless move.

[CellarDoor]

Dude, we've both had the chance to plead our case.

Thats not right. This is the voting thread.

I hope you don't run for office, you'd probably be disqualified for trying to talk to the voters in the balloting. Its not a big deal, but thats a classless move.

Deleted since it's seen as an issue.

[bryant08]

Alright my votes:

TMACFORMVP, his frontcourt is beastly and should be able to take advantage of one of poopmadoop's main weaknesses. I mean having Penny at SF shows you that poopmadoop's team isn't as deep as required to advance past perhaps the tops in terms of talent/depth. poop's backcourt should get him at least one win and possibly 2, I would have to say T-Mac in 6 would be the end result in that series. But I mean a team with Robertson/West that could go down in the first round speaks volumes of how deep these teams are.

Warspite, I think this team could've gone down in this round despite being immensely talented. The issue is the squad is really poor in terms of perimeter defense, but Finger Roll can't exploit enough to control the series with Dumars/King. Make no mistake about it, King will get his points for sure, but I wouldn't want the fate of my team relying on King taking the game over. Up top, Warspite has two monsters who although don't command double teams, are very solid anyways. They can defend and rebound with the best of them and I don't think Finger Roll's frontcourt has enough offensive talent (minus King) to do extreme damage in an efficient enough manner to defeat Warspite's team. I also see Warspite's bench as the better of the two. Warspite in 5 or 6 is how I see it playing out. Again, Finger Roll's team has Frazier/Dumars/Russell, which is just incredible defensively, yet I see them being knocked out in the first round, just wow. It's hard to fathom really.

CellarDoor, in game 7 in the 5th overtime period. Snakebites is the most talented team in the league and one of the best put together. I can't believe I'm voting against it, but these teams were made to cancel each other out. I'm just really high on Barry, I think he'll be able to get his points big time on Pierce and we've seen how he can carry a team on his back. Payton backing down Deron is an added bonus and Moncrief would likely be your #1 choice for a guy in history to guard Jordan. I'm really sorry I voted in this matchup at all, I flipped back and forth a bunch of times.

[shawngoat23]

I'll get a vote out on CellarDoor vs. Snakebites sometime soon--hopefully today, but if not, in the next few days, after I fly back.

[shawngoat23]

Hey guys, I've read both CellarDoor's and Snakebites' matchup writeups and rebuttals, as well as their posts in the roster thread, but I still don't feel comfortable making a decision yet--especially since it will be the deciding vote in an extremely close contest.

If it's okay, I want to take a day to think this over, perhaps talking to another judge just to combine our opinions, before I cast the final decision.

[CellarDoor]

I don't think we have a choice, we're sort of at everyone's mercy at this point