GM A Team 2010 Winter - Discussion

[roc]

LA Lakers have 3 TPEs up for grabs

$4,268,904
$2,500,000
$1,890,200

expiring contracts or a useful D oriented PG wanted

no need to add picks as incentive don't want/need em

[Karmaloop]

I've got a few players on the block right now.

PG Louis Williams (on a very team friendly contract, willing to move him though)
SG Michael Redd (big time scorer, can really light it up)
SG/SF James Jones (unguarnteed contract, three point specialist)
SF Mike Dunleavy Jr. (has really turned it around since arriving at IND)

Looking for expiring contracts, picks (both now and in the future) as well as some good prospects.

[Coxy]

I want a star!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Im looking for a star wing to head up a championship run for next season along side Yao, Miller, Millsap, Charlie V and company. I have plenty available including Michael Pietrus, Randy Foye, Matt Barnes, JJ Reddick, Will Bynum, Kyle Lowry, Kyle Korver, Kyrlyo Fesenko and possibly even Charlie V.

Im looking for a 2 or 3 with big scoring prowess. A player in the Roy, Mello, Pierce variety is ideal, so please send your offers my way plebs.

[roc]

looking for 2011 expirings?

Sasha can be yours hit me up.

also

Luke Walton and Jason Maxiell are on the block.

You know you want em.

[MadNESS]

HOUSTON

is looking to brake Kmart down into smaller pieces.

ALSO
everyone is on the block.

cantmesswithness8 @ YAHOO . com

[Mascot]

Looking for feedback on contract extensions.


Problems associated with them are:
1. Players can be traded to a crappy team that they would not have signed with after they have signed an extension. e.g Wade was traded to Cleveland in a S&T for LeBron a couple of games ago because Wade had signed a contract extension already with a great team around him. The Cleveland team was crap.

2. A player can make more money by hitting the FA market and re-signing.
e.g LeBron James

105% of his previous salary with 10.5% raises for 6 years if he waits till FA.
$16,568,907
$18,308,642
$20,048,377
$21,788,112
$23,527,847
$25,267,583
$125,509,468

if he signs a contract extension now he gets 10.5% raises for 5 years
$17,149,243
$18,949,913
$20,750,584
$22,551,254
$24,351,925
$103,752,919

Possible Solutions
1. Traded Players have No Trade Clauses which would mean that any player in a trade who has signed an extension could not want to be traded to that team. I have to make the decision on that, which i dont like.

2. GMs will have the veto option on if the player would like to go to that team or not. Not just a Veto on if the trade is Fair Value. But an actual Veto on that the team the player is going to does not justify him being extended before he is traded there.
e.g Would an extended Chris Bosh want to be traded to a really crappy team for Dwayne Wade ....the trade is fair but is it fair to the player who signed an extension with a really good team around him to then be traded to a crappy team.

3. No trading of extended players whatsoever.

4. Who cares trade any extended player to whatever team you want regardless of roster talent that the other team has.

[Karmaloop]

I vote number 3. If the player is going to sign a longterm extension, they certainly aren't going to want to be traded.

[BlackIce]

I think most players should wait until the FA period to sign with PHI. That's just me though not sure what others think but they probably agree with me.

In all seriousness though I don't think Bosh would want to play with Amare at C and vice versa. *glances at LA then quickly looks away*.

Mm also all FA's should hit the open market that way teams with caproom can at least make their cases. If the FA chooses to resign with their own teams after considering all options that's cool but I certainly don't want players extended until the FA period.

[dockingsched]

i'll go with option 3. in real life players that get extended during a season don't get traded, ever.

[lukekarts]

Option 3.

[dockingsched]

just read BI's post and i agree. if there is an option for not allowing extensions, i'll go with that. the only fair way to have players agree to a contract in this game is an open market.

[verbal8]

just read BI's post and i agree. if there is an option for not allowing extensions, i'll go with that. the only fair way to have players agree to a contract in this game is an open market.

I agree with no extensions if that is an option. It may not be the most realistic, but I think it makes the free agency period the most fun.

[Karmaloop]

just read BI's post and i agree. if there is an option for not allowing extensions, i'll go with that. the only fair way to have players agree to a contract in this game is an open market.

The issue with that is teams like the Lakers who acquired a big time player (Chris Bosh) with the assumption that they'd be able to lock him up to a long term extension before he hit the free agent market, because you know the Lakers in real life wouldn't trade Bynum for Bosh unless Bosh got an extension first. There should be a short list of players who would actually sign an extension, i.e. LeBron James, Dwayne Wade, and Chris Bosh, etc. depending on what their teams look like.

[SamBone]

I vote for 3 but also would be like #1. if teams sign guys they should stay were they are signed for at least half the season (like in NBA)

[dockingsched]

just read BI's post and i agree. if there is an option for not allowing extensions, i'll go with that. the only fair way to have players agree to a contract in this game is an open market.

The issue with that is teams like the Lakers who acquired a big time player (Chris Bosh) with the assumption that they'd be able to lock him up to a long term extension before he hit the free agent market, because you know the Lakers in real life wouldn't trade Bynum for Bosh unless Bosh got an extension first. There should be a short list of players who would actually sign an extension, i.e. LeBron James, Dwayne Wade, and Chris Bosh, etc. depending on what their teams look like.

in real life all these guys are holding out to test the open market. im not sure why this game should be different.

[Karmaloop]

in real life all these guys are holding out to test the open market. im not sure why this game should be different.

But what would those players want? They want long term stability, a winning team, and a place where they aren't void of any talent. A guy like Chris Bosh would re-sign really quickly IMO as would Amare Stoudamire.

[roc]

1. Players can be traded to a crappy team that they would not have signed with after they have signed an extension. e.g Wade was traded to Cleveland in a S&T for LeBron a couple of games ago because Wade had signed a contract extension already with a great team around him. The Cleveland team was crap.

Actually that was LA not Cleveland. LA had LeBron and Miami had Wade. Wade resigned in Miami and then was traded to LA for LJ in a SnT.

[LeQuitterNotMVP]

I think the problem in past games was that too many players were getting extended. As Karmaloop said, only the cream of the crop should be allowed to get extensions.

[roc]

This is something that should have been sussed out before the game even started as certain deals would not have happened if a rule change was in place.

I won't name names/players/situations as I don't want to hurt the value they may hold now and may no longer hold if a rule change suddenly happens.

As for which direction to choose. I am fine with what ever the majority wants. I didn't want extensions in the game I commsihed but there was big time backlash so I left it be. It does seem a bit late to switch things up but whatever.

.02

[SamBone]

I think the problem in past games was that too many players were getting extended. As Karmaloop said, only the cream of the crop should be allowed to get extensions.

actually think he is saying the opposite. The cream of the crop will make more money resigning in FA after opting out (LeBron, Wade, Bosh), so why would they cost themselves money by extending now is his point (I think)