GM a Team: Twenty Twelve Edition - 2012 FA Signings

[orangeparka]

Mis-posted.

[orangeparka]

Dallas signs C Brook Lopez to a four year, 64.05 million deal (15,000,000; 15,675,000; 16,350,000; 17,025,000). We find a franchise center. Lopez's team (Wizards?) has 48 hours to match.

The Wizards match.

Brook Lopez is one of (if not) the best scoring centers in the league, and put up like 23ppg on 53% shooting post-all star break. He's also a terrific shotblocker, and should be a top scorer among bigs for the foreseeable future.

[SamBone]

The Wizards are pleased to announce the signing of Kevin Garnett to a three-year, $32,892,722 contract.



10,485,318
10,957,167
11,450,237 (Player Option)

Kevin Garnett is exactly the type of veteran we need on the team to be a contender. He's still a hard-nosed defender who can be a great locker room influence. He'll also be a solid mentor for Brook Lopez and Tristan Thompson.

Of our core players, Kyrie and TT haven't been paid yet. We don't mind perhaps overpaying for KG, since he'll be off the books by the time those two need extensions.

can you show how you have the cap for this with Lopez $15mil cap hold and Batum signing and Meeks cap hold. A few people have been asking, and your roster is not updated, i know you freed up some money but we dont think you have KG money available.

PSD: once Brook signed the offer sheet that became his new cap hold, that may be the issue, just unsure

[orangeparka]

The Wizards are pleased to announce the signing of Kevin Garnett to a three-year, $32,892,722 contract.



10,485,318
10,957,167
11,450,237 (Player Option)

Kevin Garnett is exactly the type of veteran we need on the team to be a contender. He's still a hard-nosed defender who can be a great locker room influence. He'll also be a solid mentor for Brook Lopez and Tristan Thompson.

Of our core players, Kyrie and TT haven't been paid yet. We don't mind perhaps overpaying for KG, since he'll be off the books by the time those two need extensions.

can you show how you have the cap for this with Lopez $15mil cap hold and Batum signing and Meeks cap hold. A few people have been asking, and your roster is not updated, i know you freed up some money but we dont think you have KG money available.

PSD: once Brook signed the offer sheet that became his new cap hold, that may be the issue, just unsure

What? But when I talked with Kees, he said I could just retain Brook's original cap hold until I match?

[SamBone]

ok, if that what kees said, its against the cba but if he was cool with it its all good. but cba has always been (and its always been followed here) that cap hold becomes the offer sheet, but if kees oked it i guess it works

[orangeparka]

ok, if that what kees said, its against the cba but if he was cool with it its all good. but cba has always been (and its always been followed here) that cap hold becomes the offer sheet, but if kees oked it i guess it works

I would be more than willing to renounce to signing (sorta regretting it now, LOL), but I think it's too late to change, because a lot of teams thought that the original cap hold holds, like when Charlottle traded for Melo. (He wouldn't have been able to if Batum's 15m was on his cap)

[SamBone]

its all good man, if kees knew the situation its his call man. no issues here, just posted cause a few people have been asking me if it worked

[orangeparka]

Np, will update my roster since I'm done with signings.

[-Kees-]

The whole cap hold thing was a big confusion, I should've made this clear earlier, and had things set up better, sorry to everyone who didn't benefit from it, or lost something.

What happened was WAS came up to me and asked if he could sign some players, then match the offer for Lopez that he knew he would get. I said that doesn't sound right, but the he told me how PHI did it with signing Brand, then re-signing Iggy, I thought I remember hearing about it, so I kinda let it slide, I should've researched it.

Now, Washington wasn't the only one to do this. Charlotte signed Kaman, before matching for Gordon, NYK put a bid in with cap, then missed out, but after then matched Westbrook. Not trying to call anyone out, just pointing out that it wasn't just WAS, and he did sorta get my approval.

Overall, this is my mistake. I should have been clear to everyone from the beginning, and set up the times for matching and the Tiers better so that things like this couldn't happen, and I am sorry to anyone who missed out because of it.

The only thing we can do to try and fix it is just move on. Teams can rank others how they want in the rankings based off of things, I can't prevent that, but we just have to move on. This is just a game, and although that is what we are here for, it still is just a game.

Again, very sorry to anyone who lost from this, and I should've researched the CBA more before signing up for commish, hopefully you guys can get through this and we can finish this game on a good note.

-Kees-

[SamBone]

The whole cap hold thing was a big confusion, I should've made this clear earlier, and had things set up better, sorry to everyone who didn't benefit from it, or lost something.

What happened was WAS came up to me and asked if he could sign some players, then match the offer for Lopez that he knew he would get. I said that doesn't sound right, but the he told me how PHI did it with signing Brand, then re-signing Iggy, I thought I remember hearing about it, so I kinda let it slide, I should've researched it.

Now, Washington wasn't the only one to do this. Charlotte signed Kaman, before matching for Gordon, NYK put a bid in with cap, then missed out, but after then matched Westbrook. Not trying to call anyone out, just pointing out that it wasn't just WAS, and he did sorta get my approval.

Overall, this is my mistake. I should have been clear to everyone from the beginning, and set up the times for matching and the Tiers better so that things like this couldn't happen, and I am sorry to anyone who missed out because of it.

The only thing we can do to try and fix it is just move on. Teams can rank others how they want in the rankings based off of things, I can't prevent that, but we just have to move on. This is just a game, and although that is what we are here for, it still is just a game.

Again, very sorry to anyone who lost from this, and I should've researched the CBA more before signing up for commish, hopefully you guys can get through this and we can finish this game on a good note.

-Kees-

well said man, that should explain it perfectly!

also can a mod delete all this stuff except for kees post to clean up the "signings thrtead"

[orangeparka]

To prevent this, we should implement the difference between "coming to terms" and "actually signing".

For example, an RFA could "come to terms" with his current team, but not actually sign yet, so that the team could use it cap space outside of the RFA's cap hold.

This definitely can be done in real life, like the Iggy/Brand thing.

[SamBone]

Iggy never signed an offer sheet, the sixers had his cap hold went up to the cap to sign Brand, then went over the cap to pay Iggy more then his hold which is perfectly legal.

when you have someones RFA rites you have the advantage of matching an offer, which is why in these games RFAs get soo overpaid cause there is never a punishment for crazy salary. hell in your world you can get all RFAs then sign a bunch of people then resign your own guys to get up to max salary which is why the cap hold becomes the offer sheet

The NBA realised the huge advantage teams have which is why the shortned the "matching period to 3 days (ussed to be a week). Us allowing 48 hours with a speedy FA period (speedy is needed or game dies) is the bigger issue I think. The NBA shortened the period to put pressure on teams sitting around and with all the new cap restrictions teams may not be so willing to match cause the 3 days may not give them enough time to clear the other salary needed to stay withing restrictions. I suggest a 12 hour from posted offer sheet signing for next game. Whoever is running FA can email the team with his rites before the announcement is posted to allow a little extra time. This would stop teams with RFas from just sitting back and doing nothing cause if they dont stay active they may loose out.

[Warriorfan]

To prevent this, we should implement the difference between "coming to terms" and "actually signing".

For example, an RFA could "come to terms" with his current team, but not actually sign yet, so that the team could use it cap space outside of the RFA's cap hold.

This definitely can be done in real life, like the Iggy/Brand thing.

In real life this is what is done. The way it is done hurts teams with good RFA who get big offers and overinflated contracts in Free Agency but the game goes on.

[orangeparka]

Iggy never signed an offer sheet, the sixers had his cap hold went up to the cap to sign Brand, then went over the cap to pay Iggy more then his hold which is perfectly legal.

when you have someones RFA rites you have the advantage of matching an offer, which is why in these games RFAs get soo overpaid cause there is never a punishment for crazy salary. hell in your world you can get all RFAs then sign a bunch of people then resign your own guys to get up to max salary which is why the cap hold becomes the offer sheet

The NBA realised the huge advantage teams have which is why the shortned the "matching period to 3 days (ussed to be a week). Us allowing 48 hours with a speedy FA period (speedy is needed or game dies) is the bigger issue I think. The NBA shortened the period to put pressure on teams sitting around and with all the new cap restrictions teams may not be so willing to match cause the 3 days may not give them enough time to clear the other salary needed to stay withing restrictions. I suggest a 12 hour from posted offer sheet signing for next game. Whoever is running FA can email the team with his rites before the announcement is posted to allow a little extra time. This would stop teams with RFas from just sitting back and doing nothing cause if they dont stay active they may loose out.

Yeah, exactly. Iggy probably already came to terms with the Sixers, so he just waited for them to sign Brand first.

I like the suggestion. Might as well speed up matching.

[Karmaloop]

To prevent this, we should implement the difference between "coming to terms" and "actually signing".

For example, an RFA could "come to terms" with his current team, but not actually sign yet, so that the team could use it cap space outside of the RFA's cap hold.

This definitely can be done in real life, like the Iggy/Brand thing.

That's completely circumventing the intent of the CBA. The only reason Iggy didn't sign elsewhere is because he didn't get a contract that he agreed to. He knew he was going to end up remaining in Philadelphia because of his RFA status, so he really didn't go looking around for a deal. Philadelphia quickly went in and sign Brand, and then turned around started real negotiations with Iguodala.

[orangeparka]

To prevent this, we should implement the difference between "coming to terms" and "actually signing".

For example, an RFA could "come to terms" with his current team, but not actually sign yet, so that the team could use it cap space outside of the RFA's cap hold.

This definitely can be done in real life, like the Iggy/Brand thing.

That's completely circumventing the intent of the CBA. The only reason Iggy didn't sign elsewhere is because he didn't get a contract that he agreed to. He knew he was going to end up remaining in Philadelphia because of his RFA status, so he really didn't go looking around for a deal. Philadelphia quickly went in and sign Brand, and then turned around started real negotiations with Iguodala.

Yeah, I'm sure an RFA would love to just cripple his team's cap space like that.

[Karmaloop]

Yeah, I'm sure an RFA would love to just cripple his team's cap space like that.

Take this to the discussion thread. I'll post my response there.

[Dan Verze]

The Indiana Pacers sign Billups to the following contract:

2 years, 6 mil. (3mil each)

[Devilanche]

We needed some ammo so we signed AK47. *can't think of anything better right now* Contract as per below. The 4th year is kind of risky but we believe that AK isnt here for the money, he'll probably be a damn good on court mentor by then or he'll be going back to russia for the vodka then.

AK does a little bit of everything and would be the perfect starting SF/Smallball PF for us. We're kind of loaded with rookie contract to take this risk on him.


$6,500,000
$6,792,500
$7,085,000
$7,377,500
Total: $27,755,000

Note; Late post cause i'm on holiday and internet been cranky to say the least.

[Sun Scorched]

Phoenix is Pleased to Announce the Re-Signing of Robin Lopez



Robin has been a great asset to our organization and we wanted to reward a great young player with a long term contract with the team that drafted him. We feel both sides got a great deal here.

2012/2013 - $4,250,000
2013/2014 - $4,568,750
2014/2015 - $4,887,500
2015/2016 - $5,206,250
2016/2017 - $5,252,000
Total - $24,437,500