GM a Team free agency thread 2010

[roc]

$17,190,000 is the max salary for the 1st year of the new contract for the player in question. Your own player can get up to 10.5% salary increase per year and up to 6 years. Any other team can offer the same 1st year salary but only up to 8% salary increases and up to 5 years.

[skorff26]

EARLY BIRD EXCEPTION - A player qualifies for this exception essentially after playing two seasons without being waived or changing teams as a free agent

but he was an undrafted FA... hmmm. this one is tough.

i think he is an early bird FA because he played 2 seasons under the contract, not 1. he's also an RFA. i'll let skorff decide this one though.

I think Morrow falls under this guideline

Early Bird, following the second season of his rookie scale contract Any The maximum salary the team can pay the player using the Early Bird exception

So then he would count as the full MLE as a cap hold

Also, the MLE will be the same as last year as well; 5,848,000

[skorff26]

message from clippers:

"My Cap space is around 22 million at the moment. I just got my roster page updated with the right salaries. Also, my cap space could increase if I decide to waive the unguaranteed deals of carney, nichols and price".

OK, but you still have your minimum salaries wrong. Use this:

http://www.insidehoops.com/minimum-nba-salary.shtml

Make sure you use the 2010-11 salaries and for the correct year.

- Carney was drafted in 2006, so he would be in the league for 4 years, making $915,852.
- Nichols was drafted in 2007, so he would be in the league for 3 years, so you do have that right in him making $885,120.
- Price came into the league in 2005, so he would be in the league for 5 years, making $992,680.

I'm not entirely sure how minimum salary guys count in the team salary, as according to Coon, the league covers the difference if they have more than 2 years in the league. It sounds too confusing, so I'll just keep it at this; it shouldn't really affect your cap space too much anyway.

Your total is $35,399,145, giving you $21,900,855 in cap space.

The minimum is 854,389 for a player in the league for 2 years, all players that make the minimum and have been in the league for 2+ years will have this cap hold since that is the amount that the team pays.
When a player has been in the NBA for three or more seasons, and is playing under a one-year, ten-day or rest-of-season contract, the league actually reimburses the team for part of his salary - any amount above the minimum salary level for a two-year veteran. For example, in 2005-06 the minimum salary for a two-year veteran is $719,373, so for a ten-year veteran, with a minimum salary of $1,138,500, the league would reimburse the team $419,127. Only the two-year minimum salary is included in the team salary, not the player's full salary. They do this so teams won't shy away from signing older veterans simply because they are more expensive when filling out their last few roster spots.

[LeQuitterNotMVP]

Alright thanks. I also got your email, so hopefully you can just finalize all the teams' cap room and what not.

[LeQuitterNotMVP]

Minny's GM pointed out to me that overseas players (e.g. Rubio) have a cap hold during the offseason:

Unsigned first round picks are included in team salary immediately upon their selection in the draft. They count as 100% of the scale salary for that pick, unless there is a verbal agreement for a higher salary. An incident occurred prior to the 1997-98 season when Vancouver's first round pick, Antonio Daniels, revealed in an interview that he and the team had verbally agreed to a contract starting at the maximum salary (120% of the scale amount). Since verbal agreements apply to the salary cap, the league then changed the team's cap figure from the scale amount to 120% of scale.

Once a first round pick signs a contract, his actual salary is included in the team salary, of course.

If a first round pick signs instead with a non-NBA team, his scale amount is excluded from the team salary on the date he signs his non-NBA contract or the first day of the regular season, whichever is later. The scale amount goes back onto the team salary on the following July 1 or when his non-NBA contract ends, whichever is earlier. In other words, these cap holds are removed for players playing outside the NBA, but only during the regular season.

Unsigned second round picks are not included in team salary. This is a loophole that Houston once tried to use by trading a first round pick for a second round pick in order to clear cap room.

As described in question number 71, the trade value of an unsigned first or second round draft pick is always $0.

So, Rubio has a cap hold of $3,835,600 (scale amount for #2 pick in 2010 - year he'd be signing), so that changes the amount for the Clippers.

EDIT: I'll let skorff decide this one. I'm not too sure here TBH.

[bryant08]

LBJ, my roster is updated and the only thing that would affect my cap space is the fact that I have Henson as being signed for 120%. Do you mind double checking it for me? It'd be a great help.

Btw, I'd like to renounce Almond/Bobby Brown's bird rights.

[LeQuitterNotMVP]

OK, you still have Hughes', Oberto's, etc bird rights according to skorff's post, so I'm not entirely sure if you're actually planning on keeping them.

And Sefolosha's cap hold is NOT the QO... it is 300% of whatever his previous salary was, so that will bump you up some.

[bryant08]

Alright, I'd like to waive Hughes's and Oberto's bird rights as well. And regarding the 300% cap hold, we need some consistency here. We used the QO as the cap hold last offseason didn't we (I may be wrong)?? I'm in favour of the 300% since it's correct, but we still have current FAs that were signed on the basis that the team had the cap space last offseason.

[SamBone]

Alright, I'd like to waive Hughes's and Oberto's bird rights as well. And regarding the 300% cap hold, we need some consistency here. We used the QO as the cap hold last offseason didn't we (I may be wrong)?? I'm in favour of the 300% since it's correct, but we still have current FAs that were signed on the basis that the team had the cap space last offseason.

that was what I thought also, but can not figure it out, only skorff knows, and not sure if he made a judgement or not

[roc]

I am curious as well, but skorf did tell me quite a while back when I asked about Morrow that his cap hold would most likely be the MLE so he had to have checked that stuff out at some point.

[calderon13]

From clippers' GM:

"I spoke to skorf last night and he said they are implementing the caphold rule starting this season as part of the game's natural growth. Each season they add something new to the game and this season its the capholds. I got no problem with that and it only makes the game more life-like and adds an extra edge to it. I support this initiative of adding capholds".

[roc]

AKA they were forgotten about for the 09 off season.

[bryant08]

^That's exactly what it is, but I'm upset because I might lose the chance at signing an FA because of my RFAs, while last season others weren't hindered with the same problem. This isn't a totally separate game, it's a continuation, and we need consistency. I have no problem if that's the case though, it's not an easy job making a decision like this.

[roc]

I didn't notice any cap hold ommisions in 09 since I wasn't going after any FAs.

I did know there was a chance Morrow would count as MLE caphold and planned accordingly so got lucky in that regard. Pretty sure Boston was ready for these cap holds as well based on how he set up his roster towards the end.

Overall though skorf has done a fantastic job as it is no easy task fo sho.

[LeQuitterNotMVP]

I didn't notice any cap hold ommisions in 09 since I wasn't going after any FAs.

I did know there was a chance Morrow would count as MLE caphold and planned accordingly so got lucky in that regard. Pretty sure Boston was ready for these cap holds as well based on how he set up his roster towards the end.

Overall though skorf has done a fantastic job as it is no easy task fo sho.

Yeah, skorff told me we're using cap holds for RFAs, overseas guys, etc.

And yes, now you guys know why I traded Rondo...

skorff, could we also get the 1st post updated with teams' cap space?

[CB-Blazer]

After my last trade (pending approval) I should have a tad under 5.7 million in capspace. Care to double check for me?

[Klomp]

Cavaliers exercise the team options on Hedo Turkoglu and Jeff Green.

[LeQuitterNotMVP]

After my last trade (pending approval) I should have a tad under 5.7 million in capspace. Care to double check for me?

i can check once you update roster/salaries, but $5.7 million pretty much = no cap space. (Value of MLE)

[roc]

I didn't notice any cap hold ommisions in 09 since I wasn't going after any FAs.

I did know there was a chance Morrow would count as MLE caphold and planned accordingly so got lucky in that regard. Pretty sure Boston was ready for these cap holds as well based on how he set up his roster towards the end.

Overall though skorf has done a fantastic job as it is no easy task fo sho.

Yeah, skorff told me we're using cap holds for RFAs, overseas guys, etc.

And yes, now you guys know why I traded Rondo...

skorff, could we also get the 1st post updated with teams' cap space?

Of course you could have just signed him to an extension like Charlotte did. I still feel that it was too low though as he would have recieved max offers in this prematurely depleted FA class. So I understand/stood why you dumped him.

[SamBone]

I didn't notice any cap hold ommisions in 09 since I wasn't going after any FAs.

I did know there was a chance Morrow would count as MLE caphold and planned accordingly so got lucky in that regard. Pretty sure Boston was ready for these cap holds as well based on how he set up his roster towards the end.

Overall though skorf has done a fantastic job as it is no easy task fo sho.

Good job planning for Marrow, but it is hard to be prepaired for Foye to go from 4.795 to 10.727(no way he gets 11 mil a year) and Gay goes from 4.422 to 9.85