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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#401 » by Dr Positivity » Sat Jul 28, 2018 4:20 pm

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Fadeaway_J wrote:OK, so this is a twist I was close to proposing for the current game, but it could also work in a regular eight-round draft.

Basically the players would again be divided into tiers, but each tier would correspond to the highest level of accolade each player achieved over the course of their career. I'd rank them as follows:

1. MVP
2. All-NBA First Team
3. All-NBA Second Team
4. All-NBA Third Team
5. All-Star

The difference would be that you have to pick a season corresponding to each accolade. So if your player won an MVP, you have to use that season (or one of those seasons). If he made All-NBA First Team at an any time, you can't drop down to a Second Team year to save FGA. And so on down the line. You could pick any number of players from each tier, as well as players who never achieved any of those accolades and wouldn't be subject to any restrictions on the season chosen.

Just an example, using my team in the Batman/Robin game, I'd be forced to select:

- D-Rob's MVP season (1994-95)
- Pierce's All-NBA Second Team season (2008-09)
- Mason's All-NBA Third Team season (1996-97)

The whole idea is that if you pick Player X in the MVP tier for example, you also have to pay an MVP price. This obviously won't impact everyone, but suddenly the calculus changes for guys like D-Rob, Hakeem, and Barkley whose MVP seasons are usually avoided to save FGA, or someone like Iguodala who is often used as a bench player.


I would play, but it is pretty similar to a peak WS draft, since that correlates well to a players highest accolade year.

How about being forced to draft one of and pay that accolade's price for MVP, All-NBA 1st team, All-NBA 2nd team and All-NBA 3rd team/All-star, and the other four players must be non all-stars?

Yeah I guess that works.


Interested in starting this or the Scavenger hunt game next?
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#402 » by Fadeaway_J » Sat Jul 28, 2018 4:40 pm

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I would play, but it is pretty similar to a peak WS draft, since that correlates well to a players highest accolade year.

How about being forced to draft one of and pay that accolade's price for MVP, All-NBA 1st team, All-NBA 2nd team and All-NBA 3rd team/All-star, and the other four players must be non all-stars?

Yeah I guess that works.


Interested in starting this or the Scavenger hunt game next?

Was leaning more towards the scavenger hunt game. The categories I'm looking at are:

1. A player who has played for only one team (minimum five seasons in the NBA)
2. A player who didn't go to college in the US
3. A player who wasn't drafted in the first round
4. A player with a family member who also played in the NBA
5. A player who played for six or more different franchises
6. A player who has never played in a Finals game (minimum ten seasons in the NBA)
7. A player who played in the Finals with two or more different franchises
8. A player with three or more championships

I'm a bit iffy on #8 though - if I can think of a better idea (or someone suggests one) I'd be happy to change it.
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Post#403 » by ChicagoSportsFan21 » Mon Jul 30, 2018 3:19 am

Any interest in the Zodiac Draft (picking pairs who were born in the same year) after Scavenger Hunt draft? It intrigues me the most and you know I like rounds with multiple picks. Obviously I'll have to look into it a little more closely to see if I need to add any restrictions for balance purposes.
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#404 » by migya » Mon Jul 30, 2018 3:26 am

ChicagoSportsFan21 wrote:Any interest in the Zodiac Draft (picking pairs who were born in the same year) after Scavenger Hunt draft? It intrigues me the most and you know I like rounds with multiple picks. Obviously I'll have to look into it a little more closely to see if I need to add any restrictions for balance purposes.



After the Stat Champion Draft I'm interested in doing something like a pairs per decade draft, where each team has to pick two players from each decade from 1980s onwards. Seems a bit simple but lots of talent to pick from.

Also a "at least certain number per stat category" draft would be good. Would require planning to get certain categories to the required number.
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#405 » by ChicagoSportsFan21 » Mon Jul 30, 2018 3:29 am

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ChicagoSportsFan21 wrote:Any interest in the Zodiac Draft (picking pairs who were born in the same year) after Scavenger Hunt draft? It intrigues me the most and you know I like rounds with multiple picks. Obviously I'll have to look into it a little more closely to see if I need to add any restrictions for balance purposes.



After the Stat Champion Draft I'm interested in doing something like a pairs per decade draft, where each team has to pick two players from each decade from 1980s onwards. Seems a bit simple but lots of talent to pick from.

Also a "at least certain number per stat category" draft would be good. Would require planning to get certain categories to the required number.


Pairs per decades draft has been done before from 1980s and onwards and variations to this have been done as well fyi
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#406 » by Fadeaway_J » Mon Jul 30, 2018 3:32 am

ChicagoSportsFan21 wrote:Any interest in the Zodiac Draft (picking pairs who were born in the same year) after Scavenger Hunt draft? It intrigues me the most and you know I like rounds with multiple picks. Obviously I'll have to look into it a little more closely to see if I need to add any restrictions for balance purposes.

Initially I was intrigued, but I had a look at some of the birthday combinations on BR and wasn't so encouraged. Bearing in mind that a typical draft has a maximum of 128 players taken (if you have 16 drafters), effectively multiplying that by three thins the talent out considerably. You'll end up with some really stilted teams featuring a bunch of players that typically would never get picked.
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Post#407 » by ChicagoSportsFan21 » Mon Jul 30, 2018 3:37 am

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ChicagoSportsFan21 wrote:Any interest in the Zodiac Draft (picking pairs who were born in the same year) after Scavenger Hunt draft? It intrigues me the most and you know I like rounds with multiple picks. Obviously I'll have to look into it a little more closely to see if I need to add any restrictions for balance purposes.

Initially I was intrigued, but I had a look at some of the birthday combinations on BR and wasn't so encouraged. Bearing in mind that a typical draft has a maximum of 128 players taken (if you have 16 drafters), effectively multiplying that by three thins the talent out considerably. You'll end up with some really stilted teams featuring a bunch of players that typically would never get picked.


Why multiply by three? To be honest, I haven't looked at the pairs yet, I just thought the concept was pretty unique. Maybe widening the pool (years) may help.
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Post#408 » by Fadeaway_J » Mon Jul 30, 2018 3:42 am

ChicagoSportsFan21 wrote:
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ChicagoSportsFan21 wrote:Any interest in the Zodiac Draft (picking pairs who were born in the same year) after Scavenger Hunt draft? It intrigues me the most and you know I like rounds with multiple picks. Obviously I'll have to look into it a little more closely to see if I need to add any restrictions for balance purposes.

Initially I was intrigued, but I had a look at some of the birthday combinations on BR and wasn't so encouraged. Bearing in mind that a typical draft has a maximum of 128 players taken (if you have 16 drafters), effectively multiplying that by three thins the talent out considerably. You'll end up with some really stilted teams featuring a bunch of players that typically would never get picked.


Why multiply by three? To be honest, I haven't looked at the pairs yet, I just thought the concept was pretty unique. Maybe widening the pool (years) may help.

Yeah that was a clumsy way to try and get my point across. What I meant to say is, we typically pick no more than 128 players, but there are 365 days in a year and this idea would be spreading the pool out over all those days. I just looked through the entire month of August and the pairings were pretty grim by and large.
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Post#409 » by ChicagoSportsFan21 » Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:18 am

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ChicagoSportsFan21 wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:Initially I was intrigued, but I had a look at some of the birthday combinations on BR and wasn't so encouraged. Bearing in mind that a typical draft has a maximum of 128 players taken (if you have 16 drafters), effectively multiplying that by three thins the talent out considerably. You'll end up with some really stilted teams featuring a bunch of players that typically would never get picked.


Why multiply by three? To be honest, I haven't looked at the pairs yet, I just thought the concept was pretty unique. Maybe widening the pool (years) may help.

Yeah that was a clumsy way to try and get my point across. What I meant to say is, we typically pick no more than 128 players, but there are 365 days in a year and this idea would be spreading the pool out over all those days. I just looked through the entire month of August and the pairings were pretty grim by and large.


The thing is we won't be basing the pairs based on the month they were born, but the years were born. I quickly glanced at the years and they are hit or miss depending on the years obviously.
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#410 » by 8on » Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:29 pm

how about all of your starters have to be All-Star seasons
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Post#411 » by ChicagoSportsFan21 » Wed Aug 1, 2018 5:04 am

Looking into Zodiac Draft in detail, I think it can work. The only restriction I found is to limit one MVP per pair as there are some mighty MVP duos born in the same year (Curry/Durant, MJ/Hakeem) to name a couple and that will help balance things out. Hope to run this next!
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Post#412 » by migya » Wed Aug 1, 2018 7:12 am

Another idea is leading stat players from teams that made it to Conference Finals and Finals. Might be narrow, as not likely that there is that many players that lead the nba in a category in that season and were in the Conference Finals and Finals. Maybe combined with bench players being players that never were allstar or something?
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Post#413 » by 8on » Fri Aug 3, 2018 5:54 am

how about all of your starters have to be Hall of Famers
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Post#414 » by Dr Positivity » Fri Aug 3, 2018 2:18 pm

8on wrote:how about all of your starters have to be Hall of Famers


Not bad, a lot of current players would be unavailable but it would force teams to be conservative with FGAs and bring in some players like Mo Cheeks more than usual
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Post#415 » by migya » Fri Aug 3, 2018 2:44 pm

I liked the "steal" concept we played a couple of weeks ago. Combined with can only resteal a player picked in the same round as your player that got stolen, maybe also with can only have two stat leaders on your team.
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Post#416 » by 8on » Fri Aug 3, 2018 3:36 pm

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8on wrote:how about all of your starters have to be Hall of Famers


Not bad, a lot of current players would be unavailable but it would force teams to be conservative with FGAs and bring in some players like Mo Cheeks more than usual


if we do go ahead with this, I'm going to add one (optional) starter exception. Otherwise, fit could be pretty difficult.
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Post#417 » by ChicagoSportsFan21 » Sat Aug 4, 2018 3:53 am

For those of you interested, I'll be running the Zodiac Draft next and I'll have the sign-up thread either Saturday or Sunday at the latest.
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Post#418 » by migya » Sat Aug 4, 2018 4:51 am

There is no reason to wait for one draft to finish for another to start because there ate a few of us not in the draft that is currently running.

I'd like to a do another steal draft. It was real interesting and with one or two variations could be even better.
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Post#419 » by migya » Sat Aug 4, 2018 6:01 am

How about a build a normal type of team draft. You can only have two players in an allstar season, no more than two all nba team players (can't be players who are not the two allstars), no more than three 20pts players, atleast two players from each decade from 1980 onwards, four players that were on a finals team (one player from each decade), one 6th man of the Year winner, one double figure rebounder, one PG that was top ten in assists and one player on an all nba defensive team.


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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#420 » by 8on » Sun Aug 5, 2018 4:36 am

how about pairs of players who were in the same college conference in the same season

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