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Post#61 » by camahl » Sat Jul 24, 2010 5:59 am

Cellar door ihear what your saying it's just we have nearly 30 gms and the only gm trying to change there team name is you... It's a fantasy game but we want to keep at least some aspects realistic...just accept that you are the Memphis grizzlies!

Plus I know the draft is going to take a long time but what does that matter? We havnt got a deadline to when it has to be complete... The whole draft process will be the highlight of the game so everyone should have some patients and let it run it's course. Plus we need to fill the remaining teams the NBA has 30 teams as I said before let's keep aspects real and wait to we fill out the 30 sides... Maybe by Monday if we don't have 30 sides and everyone is getting impatient some people can grab
A second side?

Everyone just settle down and let's get this right before we start so it is a much more enjoyable game!
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Post#62 » by 48_7 » Sat Jul 24, 2010 6:15 am

camahl wrote:Cellar door ihear what your saying it's just we have nearly 30 gms and the only gm trying to change there team name is you... It's a fantasy game but we want to keep at least some aspects realistic...just accept that you are the Memphis grizzlies!

Plus I know the draft is going to take a long time but what does that matter? We havnt got a deadline to when it has to be complete... The whole draft process will be the highlight of the game so everyone should have some patients and let it run it's course. Plus we need to fill the remaining teams the NBA has 30 teams as I said before let's keep aspects real and wait to we fill out the 30 sides... Maybe by Monday if we don't have 30 sides and everyone is getting impatient some people can grab
A second side?

Everyone just settle down and let's get this right before we start so it is a much more enjoyable game!


No one will play two teams. That creates too many advantages for them. If we don't have 30 teams by Sunday night when I get home, probably close to midnight eastern, then we'll roll with 27-29 teams, whatever.

The draft will not be done in snake fashion, like I previously said. It gives an enormous advantage to the first team picking, giving them the first picks in the first and third rounds.

The fairest way is to do an ABBA style draft. First pick gets 1st in 1st round, last in second, last in third, first in fourth. Last pick gets last in 1st, 1st in second, 1st in third, last in fourth. I've thought it through and that's the fairest way.

What do you all think would be the best time limit for each pick? I'd also like it if you could email the person picking after you (you'll only have to remember 2 emails) and tell them when it is their pick. Just a courtesy thing.

If anyone has other suggestions, let me know. Final rules will be written tomorrow after I go rafting.
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Post#63 » by camahl » Sat Jul 24, 2010 8:03 am

I disagree without that proposed order... If your picking 10th that mean in 2nd 3rd round ur picking 20th that's hardly fair. The other way is definatly the fairest...

Compare 1st and 30th position...

1st gets 1,60,61
30th gets 30,31,90

Having pick one is obviously better but 30 and 31 compared to 1 60 isn't bad.

I completely disagree with starting without all teams filled! Why are we in such a rush? Were doing a fantasy draft but other than that isn't the idea to keep it as realistic as possible. I hate the fact that I started this forum and have lost every say in what is happening... I appreciate the fact that your commish. I definatly agree with the idea of emailing the next in line.. Great idea plus if the gms keep an eye on the board it is definatly enough notice. Everyone should have ample time to make there picks... I know some people think that might make it take ages but there are plenty of gms that will make there picks straight away so it will even out. Everyone just has to be patient and enjoy the process.
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Post#64 » by roc » Sat Jul 24, 2010 8:12 am

this thread is funny, carry on.
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Post#65 » by 48_7 » Sat Jul 24, 2010 8:41 am

camahl wrote:I disagree without that proposed order... If your picking 10th that mean in 2nd 3rd round ur picking 20th that's hardly fair. The other way is definatly the fairest...

Compare 1st and 30th position...

1st gets 1,60,61
30th gets 30,31,90

Having pick one is obviously better but 30 and 31 compared to 1 60 isn't bad.


1
60
61
120
121
180
181
240
241
300
301
360
361

vs

30
31
90
91
150
151
210
211
270
271
330
331
390

List one averaged together = 194
List two averaged together = 196

It isn't a huge difference, but the averages show that comparatively, the first pick has the advantage. The first pick, who also gets the best player in the game, should not have a lower average pick than he who won't even get a top 25 player in the game.

Now, for ABBA.

1
60
90
91
150
180
181
240
270
271
330
360
361

Average = 198

30
31
61
120
121
151
210
211
241
300
301
331
390

Average = 192

The difference is larger, but necessary in order to compensate for the difference between LeBron and Brook Lopez. It evens the playing field. You will never convince me that it is fair to give the #1 picking team in the draft a better average pick than #30.

I completely disagree with starting without all teams filled! Why are we in such a rush? Were doing a fantasy draft but other than that isn't the idea to keep it as realistic as possible.


It's only 4 spots right now. Two teams in each conference won't make any difference in the game and will allow for deeper teams. If they get filled, great. If not, then it doesn't make any difference. The interest for this game is high at this point and general consensus is that most want to start as soon as possible. I don't have a horse in this race. I'm just going with the masses.

I hate the fact that I started this forum and have lost every say in what is happening...


Have I not said that I was open to any and all suggestions? Make your case to me and I'll consider it for sure. I'm only here to do what everyone wants and serve as an unbiased and impartial judge.

I appreciate the fact that your commish. I definatly agree with the idea of emailing the next in line.. Great idea plus if the gms keep an eye on the board it is definatly enough notice. Everyone should have ample time to make there picks... I know some people think that might make it take ages but there are plenty of gms that will make there picks straight away so it will even out. Everyone just has to be patient and enjoy the process.


How long do you think would be a good time limit? A friend of mine suggested six hours, and if I remember correctly, that could lend itself to a 97 day draft process. I know it wouldn't, but that's a heck of a long time. Would anyone be opposed to 4 hours during the day and an exception for the middle of the night. As in, if a pick is made past 10 pm East. then they have until 10 am the next morning or something along those lines. That's just a rough idea. Still need to make a BPA list for people who miss their picks.
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Post#66 » by camahl » Sat Jul 24, 2010 8:56 am

Well that's all fine but as you should remember is you put your hand up for the job and I offered that you were welcome to take it. So far it seems you will do a good job. Go with whatever draft system you seem fair... I just think the other way is better... I'm just hoping I don't get pick 10-30. You might be right about 26 actually... Cut 2 from each conference and if the conference rnt equal to this point someone can change teams. Don't change conference set up to suit. If everyone is happy with 26 we can get under way.

I like the email idea it's just I'm in Australia and the time difference is fuked although I will keep a good eye on it and I'm hoping everyone is active and will do the same... I'm not sure about time frame on picks... I just really hope that enough interested people will make there picks straight away... 4 or 5 hours could be fine... Just make sure everyone knows that it's there responsibility to be ready for there pick. If they miss it they can have the best available player on a player ranking list.

But yer thinking bout it your idea was good for 26 teams so if everyones ready you could cut off sign up and do the draft order.
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Post#67 » by 48_7 » Sat Jul 24, 2010 2:14 pm

camahl wrote:Well that's all fine but as you should remember is you put your hand up for the job and I offered that you were welcome to take it. So far it seems you will do a good job. Go with whatever draft system you seem fair... I just think the other way is better... I'm just hoping I don't get pick 10-30. You might be right about 26 actually... Cut 2 from each conference and if the conference rnt equal to this point someone can change teams. Don't change conference set up to suit. If everyone is happy with 26 we can get under way.


Later picks benefit in the ABBA system, so I don't know what you're concerned about. I mean, we can put it to a vote.

I like the email idea it's just I'm in Australia and the time difference is fuked although I will keep a good eye on it and I'm hoping everyone is active and will do the same... I'm not sure about time frame on picks... I just really hope that enough interested people will make there picks straight away... 4 or 5 hours could be fine... Just make sure everyone knows that it's there responsibility to be ready for there pick. If they miss it they can have the best available player on a player ranking list.

But yer thinking bout it your idea was good for 26 teams so if everyones ready you could cut off sign up and do the draft order.


I'll give people the opportunity to sign up if they still want to. I don't want to start today or tomorrow because of my limited internet access and because there are still things that need to be worked out.
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Post#68 » by LoboGuerrero » Sat Jul 24, 2010 4:33 pm

ABBA seems more fair to me.

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Post#69 » by britblazerdude » Sat Jul 24, 2010 11:51 pm

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Post#70 » by britblazerdude » Sat Jul 24, 2010 11:52 pm

We don't need to fill out all 30 teams....
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Post#71 » by bringbackhoffa » Sun Jul 25, 2010 12:13 am

The less teams the better, better talent pool plus any posters that didnt get a chance to play can get first dibs at a team when someone is inactive
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Post#72 » by Gremz » Sun Jul 25, 2010 7:32 am

CellarDoor wrote:
bness888 wrote:
camahl wrote:Are you serious with that Memphis crap? Definatly a **** idea... And your the only one that wants to alter rules... Just take the Memphis grizzlies and don't try to be the odd one out.


I see a ban comming ; )


Heh, he didn't insult anyone, he's not trolling, he's not violating any ToS. He's welcome to his opinion, I'd politely point him to the board's name though and remind everyone that the word "Game" is in plane sight.

I've got a long history of jacking around with Gremz and Vintage (and DCash on the CN game). We have fun, and if it's not getting in the way of the viability of the game, I don't see a problem.


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Post#73 » by CellarDoor » Sun Jul 25, 2010 5:31 pm

^Wasn't there one game where my team name was the Vintage Idiots or something?
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Post#74 » by Gremz » Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:10 pm

I think it was Vintage Cellars.
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Post#75 » by Crispy » Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:56 am

I'll take Nuggets.
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Post#76 » by 48_7 » Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:06 am

We have 26 teams and the rosters are now LOCKED. Anyone who expresses interest will be put on the waiting list. The draft will commence tomorrow night at 6 Eastern.
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Post#77 » by deNIEd » Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:17 am

48_7 wrote:We have 26 teams and the rosters are now LOCKED. Anyone who expresses interest will be put on the waiting list. The draft will commence tomorrow night at 6 Eastern.


If the draft starts at 6pm Eastern (3pm Western), post up draft order ASAP so GM's can start formulating a gameplan
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Post#78 » by Gremz » Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:20 am

Probably would be best to announce it sooner rather than later.

I'll be available for the next couple of days if people need to leave lists for the draft.

email me at elfgremlin@hotmail.com if you'll be unavailable. Otherwise, I'm sure 48_7 or some others will be around to leave your selections with.

Let's not drag this draft out any more than we need to.
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Post#79 » by camahl » Mon Jul 26, 2010 7:00 am

Commish wats the draft order? Also you should start a knew thread for the draft... Have a look on phillys page... There draft page looks very good.. If u can manage to do that everyone will be very pleased! But I agree with the above poster we need the order up asap so we can start planning and if the order is up and teams are locked I see no harm in people making selections without time limits but because it isn't ment to start till 2moro.
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Post#80 » by Teddy KGB » Mon Jul 26, 2010 7:00 am

Yeah let's get this thing rollin!
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