GM a Team - We're bored edition - Free Agency 2012

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What Players Opt out of their contracts?

Poll ended at Mon Oct 3, 2011 2:49 am

Dwight Howard
20
16%
Deron Williams
20
16%
Chris Paul
20
16%
Gerald Wallace
19
16%
Brandon Bass
12
10%
Jameer Nelson
11
9%
Ramon Sessions
12
10%
Mo Williams
8
7%
 
Total votes: 122

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Post#61 » by -Kees- » Tue Oct 4, 2011 2:04 am

The New Orleans Hornets have 2 HUGE signings to announce!

Dwight Howard
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Signed to:
$14,000,000
$15,120,000
$16,240,000
$17,360,000 (PO)

Deron Williams
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Signed to:
$14,000,000
$15,120,000
$16,240,000
$17,360,000 (PO)

We are thrilled to bring these two amazing players to our team. Dwight will have free reign of the paint. He is a monster inside, brings a go-to-guy in the post, and will continue to play outstanding defense. He is a great fit with the sweet shooting Frye up front, and will benefit from playing with the best backcourt in the league. Deron brings a solid floor general who just makes things happen. A key part of his game is the fact that he can do so much, score, rebound, defend, distribute and hit the open 3 ball. He brings great size and skill to the PG position, and seems like a good fit with Wade in the backcourt.

Overall, we have created the best "big 3" this league has ever seen. It fits well, having Dwight be the post, Williams being the passer, and Wade being the wing go-to-guy, but all of them capable of scoring in bunches. It doesn't have any redundancy like the Miami big 3 of 2010 had, our big 3 fits well, and has good attitudes all the way around.

Welcome to New Orleans Deron and Dwight!
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Post#62 » by The J Rocka » Tue Oct 4, 2011 2:29 am

LMAO wow.
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Post#63 » by RR9 » Tue Oct 4, 2011 2:31 am

i'm gonna have to veto this....this is exactly the opposite of what happened when i had one star on NOH last game and went for cp3/dwight...lol.
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Post#64 » by roc » Tue Oct 4, 2011 2:34 am

grr arghh

and a pay cut to boot lol
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Post#65 » by oakleyscarwash » Tue Oct 4, 2011 2:37 am

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Post#66 » by JoebobLollipop » Tue Oct 4, 2011 2:39 am

This is really lame. Why would D-will and Dwight want to play in New Orleans? They didn't even get max contracts. Sure NOH has three stars but they have no cap space. I''m confused why Dwight and D-will wouldn't want to play in a team that actually has depth.
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Post#67 » by RiotPunch » Tue Oct 4, 2011 2:46 am

:rofl:
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Post#68 » by The J Rocka » Tue Oct 4, 2011 2:51 am

Wolves > Hornets

Clippers > Hornets

Heat > Hornets


At least give me 24 hrs to pull of a S&T deal where D12 "wants to play" despite having a winning roster in place with depth along with being the number one option (reports say that he isn't a ring chaser).

He didn't even get max money. He would have never used that E.T. option had he got this new contract from the Hornets.
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Post#69 » by The J Rocka » Tue Oct 4, 2011 2:54 am

I better move Eric Gordon before he signs a 3 yr/ 3 mil contract with the Hornets.
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Post#70 » by RR9 » Tue Oct 4, 2011 3:02 am

The J Rocka wrote:I better move Eric Gordon before he signs a 3 yr/ 3 mil contract with the Hornets.


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Post#71 » by Blazer50 » Tue Oct 4, 2011 3:06 am

Houston has signed Nicolas Batum to a 5 year guaranteed contract with the 5th year and ETO for Batum. The Deal starts at $ 7,500,000 and will have Maximum 10% pay raises each year. This move was approved as part of a 3 team deal (see Trade thread),
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Post#72 » by Warriorfan » Tue Oct 4, 2011 3:15 am

The J Rocka wrote:Wolves > Hornets

Clippers > Hornets

Heat > Hornets


At least give me 24 hrs to pull of a S&T deal where D12 "wants to play" despite having a winning roster in place with depth along with being the number one option (reports say that he isn't a ring chaser).

He didn't even get max money. He would have never used that E.T. option had he got this new contract from the Hornets.


In the rankings Wolves were like a five or six seed without another superstar. Dal,Den,OKL,LAL ahead.
Heat did not have the space to sign a major free agent.
Clippers had lots of room but had Rondo at pg, Griffin as post guy which does not complement.
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Post#73 » by The J Rocka » Tue Oct 4, 2011 3:22 am

Warriorfan wrote:
The J Rocka wrote:Wolves > Hornets

Clippers > Hornets

Heat > Hornets


At least give me 24 hrs to pull of a S&T deal where D12 "wants to play" despite having a winning roster in place with depth along with being the number one option (reports say that he isn't a ring chaser).

He didn't even get max money. He would have never used that E.T. option had he got this new contract from the Hornets.


In the rankings Wolves were like a five or six seed without another superstar. Dal,Den,OKL,LAL ahead.
Heat did not have the space to sign a major free agent.
Clippers had lots of room but had Rondo at pg, Griffin as post guy which does not complement.

Well it would have been a S&T deal to make the numbers work for both teams. Wolves had the perfect team in place which doesn't make sense for him leave AND take less money.

I don't want to hear that arctic Minnesota horrid franchise crap because New Orleans isn't an upgrade geographically and talent wise. I made David Kahn look like Isiah Thomas in the beginning and now I am Isiah Thomas.

He should have stayed and would have realistically if the Wolves had that exact roster.
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Post#74 » by 5th pick sucks » Tue Oct 4, 2011 3:49 am

Keeslinator wrote:The New Orleans Hornets have 2 HUGE signings to announce!

Dwight Howard
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Signed to:
$14,000,000
$15,120,000
$16,240,000
$17,360,000 (PO)

Deron Williams
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Signed to:
$14,000,000
$15,120,000
$16,240,000
$17,360,000 (PO)

We are thrilled to bring these two amazing players to our team. Dwight will have free reign of the paint. He is a monster inside, brings a go-to-guy in the post, and will continue to play outstanding defense. He is a great fit with the sweet shooting Frye up front, and will benefit from playing with the best backcourt in the league. Deron brings a solid floor general who just makes things happen. A key part of his game is the fact that he can do so much, score, rebound, defend, distribute and hit the open 3 ball. He brings great size and skill to the PG position, and seems like a good fit with Wade in the backcourt.

Overall, we have created the best "big 3" this league has ever seen. It fits well, having Dwight be the post, Williams being the passer, and Wade being the wing go-to-guy, but all of them capable of scoring in bunches. It doesn't have any redundancy like the Miami big 3 of 2010 had, our big 3 fits well, and has good attitudes all the way around.

Welcome to New Orleans Deron and Dwight!

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Post#75 » by babyjax13 » Tue Oct 4, 2011 4:18 am

It took a long time to make these decisions because we considered every possible scenario strongly. I'm not going to try and pretend that every decision was unanimous, because they weren't, but the reality is that Deron and Dwight gave up about 15% in order to win a championship in New Orleans. Minnesota had a great team, but it's either Boozer and Gordon + a very good 8 man rotation or Deron+Wade+Howard and sub-par depth (like the current Heat). The choice is either to see if you can win a championship in the meantime and add solid depth with your MLE and cap space, or to hope that Gordon improves (I think he is fantastic, by the way) and that Boozer can get his career back on track (when it is clear he isn't the same player he was in Utah). That's a big portion of our collective reasoning behind this move.

LAC also had a very good pitch, but really didn't have anyone to spread the court, and as good as George was last year he is still a big question mark. Those were the major contenders.
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Post#76 » by JoebobLollipop » Tue Oct 4, 2011 4:27 am

Well I probably would have been able to either sign Wallace(so George could come off the bench) or Ray Allen to spread the floor. BTW, Lamb is also a very good shooter so he does spread the floor and Fields shot extremely well before the Carmelo trade
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Post#77 » by dan_atko97 » Tue Oct 4, 2011 7:43 am

i dont really like the decision of them signing in a big 3 with pay cuts.
i could imagine williams doing so, but dwight seems to have made it clear that he doesn't wanna be in a big 3 like miami's.
he should have signed with t'wolves imho

but doesn't really affect me so..whatever
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Post#78 » by lukekarts » Tue Oct 4, 2011 8:19 am

babyjax13 wrote:It took a long time to make these decisions because we considered every possible scenario strongly. I'm not going to try and pretend that every decision was unanimous, because they weren't, but the reality is that Deron and Dwight gave up about 15% in order to win a championship in New Orleans. Minnesota had a great team, but it's either Boozer and Gordon + a very good 8 man rotation or Deron+Wade+Howard and sub-par depth (like the current Heat). The choice is either to see if you can win a championship in the meantime and add solid depth with your MLE and cap space, or to hope that Gordon improves (I think he is fantastic, by the way) and that Boozer can get his career back on track (when it is clear he isn't the same player he was in Utah). That's a big portion of our collective reasoning behind this move.

LAC also had a very good pitch, but really didn't have anyone to spread the court, and as good as George was last year he is still a big question mark. Those were the major contenders.


Pretty much in agreement with this.

Understandably not everyone will be happy with the signings (it happens, see 2010) but I think they were justifiable.

For Deron, the choices were simply Portland and New Orleans. Initially (before Kees' went all Pat Riley) I was in favour of Portland re-signing him, but there were key issues raised - the age of Camby and Allen, the sub-par performances of David Lee.

For Dwight, he had a handful off offers. Staying in Minny (in fairness a good team, but still not a top 4 seed) was a realistic option; LAC the other front runner. Dwight/Griffin/Rondo would've been nice but we felt the NOH offer to assemble it's own big 3 was more ambitious and more enticing. Phoenix offered to pair Dwight and Horford, which would've been good, but lack of backcourt help hindered this. Cleveland also put in an ambitious offer but the team was too young/unproven to be enticing.

It's not as if both these guys were being chased by the likes of LA, Boston etc. And I'm still confident they've picked the team with best chance of winning in the long run.
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Post#79 » by sterncohen » Tue Oct 4, 2011 10:33 am

Golden State has re-signed Kevin Love to a max contract for a 4-year player.

Year 1 - $13,000,000
Year 2 - $14,365,000
Year 3 - $15,730,000
Year 4 - $17,095,000
Year 5 - $18,550,000
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Post#80 » by -Kees- » Tue Oct 4, 2011 10:48 am

Just to defend my case (I know I don't have to, but I think it'd be right):

-Just after the signing I made Hawes for Frye trade. This gave NOH a 3.3M TPE and cap space to sign another FA.
-I have 4 1st round pick in 2013/2014 combined
-The Big 3 will all be playing around 36-40 MPG anyways, so that only leaves 2 full time positions to fill
-In past games and the NBA, the market size hasn't mattered much. In terms of population size, for instance, Miami is 19th in the league in NBA cities population, and they did the same thing in 2010 with their Big 3.

Plus Wade is the best player in the league that has a team with enough cap to sign a top guy, with only LeBron (no cap) and Dwight (FA) being generally considered more talented.

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