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Re: GM a Team 2010 

Post#61 » by BlackIce » Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:14 pm

Snakebites wrote:Not in this yet, but I'll throw in my 2 cents.

I agree, you need some sort of extensions policy.

You can't just say no extensions. There must be some judgment as to whether an extension can take place. For example, if Minnesota trades for Amare they can't give him an 6 year extension. But get rid of extensions and its just everyone vying for cap space the whole game. It just takes so much dimension from the game. Tanking for cap space SHOULD be a gamble.

Agreed couldn't have said it better myself. Make it damn hard to sign extensions, but if you have none then it becomes the "Dump Salary and position yourself for 2010" game.
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Re: GM a Team 2010 

Post#62 » by SamBone » Mon Aug 31, 2009 6:15 pm

extensions are fine as long as the player likes what the team has built around him and if it is a max $ and max year extension (my opinion no player would turn that down in todays economy)
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Re: GM a Team 2010 

Post#63 » by BlackIce » Mon Aug 31, 2009 6:39 pm

Not sure if we can trade yet but Duncan, is on the block. Not gonna go cheap though. Get your offers in quick as I have a potential deal lined up and may move the greatest PF of alltime shortly. Looking for youth, wanna rebuild. Everyone else can also be had except for Tony Parker.

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Re: GM a Team 2010 

Post#64 » by Miller4ever » Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:36 pm

We should probably start different threads for all that stuff.
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Post#65 » by roc » Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:37 pm

If enough people want extensions they will be in. I feel that if they are in there should be some time limit after extension before that player could be traded. But that I will also leave up to the majority.

We will continue to discuss rules while waiting for everyone to join up. After the game is full we will have 2 days of voting to figure out rules.

The draft time limit and extensions seem to be the 2 so far that will be voted on.
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Re: GM a Team 2010 

Post#66 » by roc » Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:40 pm

BlackIce wrote:Not sure if we can trade yet but Duncan, is on the block. Not gonna go cheap though. Get your offers in quick as I have a potential deal lined up and may move the greatest PF of alltime shortly. Looking for youth, wanna rebuild. Everyone else can also be had except for Tony Parker.

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No trading until all the teams are taken and the rules decided upon. After everything is set in stone trading can begin and as per usual we will have a trade thread and a discussion thread.

I will post a discussion thread in a bit so you can start with that part of the game.
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Re: GM a Team 2010 

Post#67 » by roc » Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:48 pm

CellarDoor wrote:For the record, an insinuation would be something I was trying to mask. I absolutely was not trying to mask my implication.

Yeah I used the wrong word but sure you got the jist of what I was getting at.

anyway

You made some good points and as I already have stated we will decide by majority rule. If we do go with extensions I would like to come up with some restraints similar to what I would like to see with FAs.

Restraints I would like to see for both would be a time limit after signing where the newly acquired player can not be re-dealt. Maybe a week...

I would also like a 48 hour limit for any traded player to be involved in another trade unless it was listed as contingent in the original deal.

We will get this fine tuned so most will be happy.
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Re: GM a Team 2010 

Post#68 » by BlackIce » Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:39 pm

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BlackIce wrote:Not sure if we can trade yet but Duncan, is on the block. Not gonna go cheap though. Get your offers in quick as I have a potential deal lined up and may move the greatest PF of alltime shortly. Looking for youth, wanna rebuild. Everyone else can also be had except for Tony Parker.

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No trading until all the teams are taken and the rules decided upon. After everything is set in stone trading can begin and as per usual we will have a trade thread and a discussion thread.

I will post a discussion thread in a bit so you can start with that part of the game.

ah ok no prob :P
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Re: GM a Team 2010 

Post#69 » by CellarDoor » Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:28 pm

r0cd0gg wrote:
CellarDoor wrote:For the record, an insinuation would be something I was trying to mask. I absolutely was not trying to mask my implication.

Yeah I used the wrong word but sure you got the jist of what I was getting at.

anyway

You made some good points and as I already have stated we will decide by majority rule. If we do go with extensions I would like to come up with some restraints similar to what I would like to see with FAs.

Restraints I would like to see for both would be a time limit after signing where the newly acquired player can not be re-dealt. Maybe a week...

I would also like a 48 hour limit for any traded player to be involved in another trade unless it was listed as contingent in the original deal.

We will get this fine tuned so most will be happy.


These I can absolutely get behind. I would go a bit further even....

Establish a "BYC" of sorts where there's some difficult restrictions to trading the player for the remainder of the season once extended.

If this is how the game would proceed i'm all for it and will absolutely join.
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Post#70 » by roc » Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:13 pm

Hmmm I like the BYC idea. I think that could work. Even if said player wouldn't be BYC based on raise he will automatically become BYC if signed to an extension and will remain BYC for the duration of the game no matter how many times traded. In this scenario BYC would be 1/2 of salary for outgoing team and full for incoming team.

I would also like a time period of say 1 week where that player can not be traded. This would go into affect each time he is traded.

Those 2 things could help dissuade constant turnover.

I would like the same 1 week rule applied to newly signed FAs.
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Post#71 » by TMACFORMVP » Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:15 pm

Can teams send in offers for real life unsigned free agents?
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Post#72 » by roc » Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:23 pm

TMACFORMVP wrote:Can teams send in offers for real life unsigned free agents?

I already discussed this in the OP...

r0cd0gg wrote:We will start with no roster limit for the 1st 2 weeks since some FAs are still unsigned. After those 2 weeks all rosters must meet the required limits. If a RL team signs a FA then the in game team also gets that FA. If said team has 15 players already under contract they must cut a player to make room. The cut player should be a minimum contract if possible. If you want to cut a different player you will take the salary hit minus the league minimum. That does not release the team from paying any extra years still on said contract if guaranteed.


After that has been situated then you will be able to sign the leftovers.
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Re: GM a Team 2010 

Post#73 » by CellarDoor » Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:28 pm

r0cd0gg wrote:Hmmm I like the BYC idea. I think that could work. Even if said player wouldn't be BYC based on raise he will automatically become BYC if signed to an extension and will remain BYC for the duration of the game no matter how many times traded. In this scenario BYC would be 1/2 of salary for outgoing team and full for incoming team.

I would also like a time period of say 1 week where that player can not be traded. This would go into affect each time he is traded.

Those 2 things could help dissuade constant turnover.

I would like the same 1 week rule applied to newly signed FAs.


Yeah, I was suggesting a combination of the two, not BYC in place of it.
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Re: GM a Team 2010 

Post#74 » by SamBone » Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:56 pm

what if players (in real life) sign with a team?

not that it matters, I am Orlando. A.Foyle is not "officially" signed yet (as per shamsports) but will be signing with the Magic. is he on my team? If someone signs or S&T's for D.Lee, Nate or Felton (in real life) what team are they on?

If we note in a trade that the player is part of another deal, he is able to be moved instandly correct (not needing to wait 48 hours)
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Post#75 » by roc » Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:00 pm

SamBone wrote:what if players (in real life) sign with a team?

not that it matters, I am Orlando. A.Foyle is not "officially" signed yet (as per shamsports) but will be signing with the Magic. is he on my team? If someone signs or S&T's for D.Lee, Nate or Felton (in real life) what team are they on?

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TMACFORMVP wrote:Can teams send in offers for real life unsigned free agents?

I already discussed this in the OP...

r0cd0gg wrote:We will start with no roster limit for the 1st 2 weeks since some FAs are still unsigned. After those 2 weeks all rosters must meet the required limits. If a RL team signs a FA then the in game team also gets that FA. If said team has 15 players already under contract they must cut a player to make room. The cut player should be a minimum contract if possible. If you want to cut a different player you will take the salary hit minus the league minimum. That does not release the team from paying any extra years still on said contract if guaranteed.


After that has been situated then you will be able to sign the leftovers.

SamBone wrote:If we note in a trade that the player is part of another deal, he is able to be moved instandly correct (not needing to wait 48 hours)

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Re: GM a Team 2010 

Post#76 » by TMACFORMVP » Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:01 pm

Alright, thanks for clarifying, should have read the OP more closely. Kind of sucks though, hopefully the Knicks resign Lee, or match whatever offer, because as the Knicks GM, that's what I would have done, lol.
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Post#77 » by roc » Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:04 pm

I had to come up with some plan to account for what has yet to happen in RL so as to keep things reasonable. It's not great but it is what it is.

There are still other teams available if you don't want the Knicks. Feel free to swap out.
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Post#78 » by roc » Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:29 pm

There are still 13 teams left so I am going to start giving out teams 1st come 1st served. If a past GM posts that he wants a team after all of them are taken he will automatically be moved to the top of the waiting list. If I missed anyone let me know.

Snakebites - Denver Nuggets

poopdamoop - Golden State Warriors (if when you post your contact info)

Cellar Door - (If you want in pick a team and post contact info)

Booz - Miami Heat(I will let the GMs vote, if you get in you will be on probationary status.)

GMs please vote on whether or not Booz gets in OK GO!
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Post#79 » by poopdamoop » Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:30 pm

Awesome, thanks

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Post#80 » by roc » Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:34 pm

All Goodz

Make sure to reread the OP to see what is required on your roster page and then post your roster in the roster thread.
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