Future Draft Games

[Laimbeer]

more restrictive games would be nice. getting tired of seeing the same first round picks. i liked the last several weeks worth of games for that reason.

MJ was just an example. If you want, you can replace him with someone less popular like Rose or C-Webb. A FGA limit like that is pretty much forcing you to pick certain types of players.

Can have up to 5fga taken from one decade to give to another but it makes each participant pick the same level from each decade.

I think having to pick four non all-stars, one from each decade, might get us picking players not normally picked.

[migya]

MJ was just an example. If you want, you can replace him with someone less popular like Rose or C-Webb. A FGA limit like that is pretty much forcing you to pick certain types of players.

Can have up to 5fga taken from one decade to give to another but it makes each participant pick the same level from each decade.

I think having to pick four non all-stars, one from each decade, might get us picking players not normally picked.

It will be pretty much the same as with other drafts, at least we get the diversity from four decades unlike usual.

[Dr Positivity]

Pairs version of the Choose your accolades draft. You can either draft

MVP + non all star
1st team + all-star (non All NBA)
Two 2nd/3rd teamers

Or worse versions, 1st team and non all star is legal for example, and two non all stars

4 rounds of pairs picks

[migya]

Since there was interest yesterday on the 4 decades, a star and role player per decade, how's this:


4 decades; 80s, 90s, 00s, 10s.

1 allnba player (1st, 2nd or 3rd team) and 1 other player with no accolade, including allstar, from each of the 4 decades.


?

[Dr Positivity]

Since there was interest yesterday on the 4 decades, a star and role player per decade, how's this:


4 decades; 80s, 90s, 00s, 10s.

1 allnba player (1st, 2nd or 3rd team) and 1 other player with no accolade, including allstar, from each of the 4 decades.


?

I'm lukewarm on it, I think everyone having 4 stars and 4 role players makes it harder to separate from people strategy wise, plus the top picks could have the advantage by allowing them to get one of the best non all-stars like Conley in addition to Lebron. I think it could use something else

Edit - Just realized it's not a pairs game which helps avoid the Conley factor and brings in a little more strategy of when to pick the non all-star.

Maybe allow one of the decades to have an all-star (non All NBA) instead of non all-star. So it adds the strategy of when to pick that important player, especially in a game that's not pairs

[migya]

Since there was interest yesterday on the 4 decades, a star and role player per decade, how's this:


4 decades; 80s, 90s, 00s, 10s.

1 allnba player (1st, 2nd or 3rd team) and 1 other player with no accolade, including allstar, from each of the 4 decades.


?

I'm lukewarm on it, I think everyone having 4 stars and 4 role players makes it harder to separate from people strategy wise, plus the top picks could have the advantage by allowing them to get one of the best non all-stars like Conley in addition to Lebron. I think it could use something else

That's basically like the Accolades draft but more restriction in one way and less in another way.

[Fadeaway_J]

Since there was interest yesterday on the 4 decades, a star and role player per decade, how's this:


4 decades; 80s, 90s, 00s, 10s.

1 allnba player (1st, 2nd or 3rd team) and 1 other player with no accolade, including allstar, from each of the 4 decades.


?

I'm lukewarm on it, I think everyone having 4 stars and 4 role players makes it harder to separate from people strategy wise, plus the top picks could have the advantage by allowing them to get one of the best non all-stars like Conley in addition to Lebron. I think it could use something else

Edit - Just realized it's not a pairs game which helps avoid the Conley factor and brings in a little more strategy of when to pick the non all-star.

Maybe allow one of the decades to have an all-star (non All NBA) instead of non all-star. So it adds the strategy of when to pick that important player, especially in a game that's not pairs

I'd rather just keep the idea as migya has it.

[Laimbeer]

Since there was interest yesterday on the 4 decades, a star and role player per decade, how's this:


4 decades; 80s, 90s, 00s, 10s.

1 allnba player (1st, 2nd or 3rd team) and 1 other player with no accolade, including allstar, from each of the 4 decades.


?

I'm lukewarm on it, I think everyone having 4 stars and 4 role players makes it harder to separate from people strategy wise, plus the top picks could have the advantage by allowing them to get one of the best non all-stars like Conley in addition to Lebron. I think it could use something else

Edit - Just realized it's not a pairs game which helps avoid the Conley factor and brings in a little more strategy of when to pick the non all-star.

Maybe allow one of the decades to have an all-star (non All NBA) instead of non all-star. So it adds the strategy of when to pick that important player, especially in a game that's not pairs

I had intended it to be pairs. The Conley factor is just another twist - would you pick a lesser star to get a better non all-star? Generally, I wouldn't, unless those stars are awfully close.

Having just an accolade limit and not FGAs also changes how we value players. Is Magic as valuable? How far up does TMac go? Would someone like Nique get drafted?

[Fadeaway_J]

Just to be clear, I agree with it being a pairs game but not with the removal of the FGA limit.

[euroleague]

Let’s start it

[migya]

How about this:

We keep the idea we've discussed, 4 decades, 1 star and 1 non star per decade, picked in pairs each round for 4 rounds, BUT total of 10 players for each team with the last pair of players picked in the 5th round BOTH players non starters on their real team AND no more than 30mins for any player picked on a team. ALSO no fga limit. Option, depending on what participants think, ABABAB format instead of ABBAB.

[Laimbeer]

Let’s start it

A sign up thread will be going up shortly.

[Dr Positivity]

I had intended it to be pairs. The Conley factor is just another twist - would you pick a lesser star to get a better non all-star? Generally, I wouldn't, unless those stars are awfully close.

Having just an accolade limit and not FGAs also changes how we value players. Is Magic as valuable? How far up does TMac go? Would someone like Nique get drafted?

If it wasn't pairs it would be a bigger factor, but in pairs it's easy to just see him going 1st or 2nd with Lebron or something. I think people will draft their 5th starter early as possible so the the strategy of how to prioritize it vs the superstars won't be that big of a factor as teams have an entire decade of players to pick from

I think the teams will be too stacked for someone like Nique to get in

[Fadeaway_J]

I had intended it to be pairs. The Conley factor is just another twist - would you pick a lesser star to get a better non all-star? Generally, I wouldn't, unless those stars are awfully close.

Having just an accolade limit and not FGAs also changes how we value players. Is Magic as valuable? How far up does TMac go? Would someone like Nique get drafted?

If it wasn't pairs it would be a bigger factor, but in pairs it's easy to just see him going 1st or 2nd with Lebron or something. I think people will draft their 5th starter early as possible so the the strategy of how to prioritize it vs the superstars won't be that big of a factor as teams have an entire decade of players to pick from

I think the teams will be too stacked for someone like Nique to get in

I don't think someone like Conley is a major concern if we use the standard FGA limit. Reason being, in order for him to make a real impact you have to shell out 14.6 for his 2016-17 season, which eats into your budget for stars from other eras.

[Dr Positivity]

I had intended it to be pairs. The Conley factor is just another twist - would you pick a lesser star to get a better non all-star? Generally, I wouldn't, unless those stars are awfully close.

Having just an accolade limit and not FGAs also changes how we value players. Is Magic as valuable? How far up does TMac go? Would someone like Nique get drafted?

If it wasn't pairs it would be a bigger factor, but in pairs it's easy to just see him going 1st or 2nd with Lebron or something. I think people will draft their 5th starter early as possible so the the strategy of how to prioritize it vs the superstars won't be that big of a factor as teams have an entire decade of players to pick from

I think the teams will be too stacked for someone like Nique to get in

I don't think someone like Conley is a major concern if we use the standard FGA limit. Reason being, in order for him to make a real impact you have to shell out 14.6 for his 2016-17 season, which eats into your budget for stars from other eras.

I still feel like having a combination like Lebron/Conley is a pretty big advantage. Normally in games with non all-stars there's an opportunity cost if you want to jump on the best one such as LA Bird's strategy in the current game, in this case they also get a top 2 player

My issue isn't so much balance as it is that I just think there's less decisions to make in this game. Without the option to have 5+ all-stars the FGAs (if they're in the game) won't affect the early picks as much. Normally in stacked drafts which this would probably be with the sign-ups recently, there's a mix of teams that were aggressive with the expensive players early + the ones that end up with 5 all NBA players at every starting position, or even a team like Prez's recently with all-stars deep into the bench. With a cap of 4 stars it's more likely everyone just takes the best players every pick, and especially with no FGA limit

[Laimbeer]

If it wasn't pairs it would be a bigger factor, but in pairs it's easy to just see him going 1st or 2nd with Lebron or something. I think people will draft their 5th starter early as possible so the the strategy of how to prioritize it vs the superstars won't be that big of a factor as teams have an entire decade of players to pick from

I think the teams will be too stacked for someone like Nique to get in

I don't think someone like Conley is a major concern if we use the standard FGA limit. Reason being, in order for him to make a real impact you have to shell out 14.6 for his 2016-17 season, which eats into your budget for stars from other eras.

I still feel like having a combination like Lebron/Conley is a pretty big advantage. Normally in games with non all-stars there's an opportunity cost if you want to jump on the best one such as LA Bird's strategy in the current game, in this case they also get a top 2 player

My issue isn't so much balance as it is that I just think there's less decisions to make in this game. Without the option to have 5+ all-stars the FGAs (if they're in the game) won't affect the early picks as much. Normally in stacked drafts which this would probably be with the sign-ups recently, there's a mix of teams that were aggressive with the expensive players early + the ones that end up with 5 all NBA players at every starting position, or even a team like Prez's recently with all-stars deep into the bench. With a cap of 4 stars it's more likely everyone just takes the best players every pick, and especially with no FGA limit

Went with the FGA limit, but requiring the designated star from every decade to play at least 36 minutes in trying to keep with the intention of all decades being represented on a team.

[Fadeaway_J]

I don't think someone like Conley is a major concern if we use the standard FGA limit. Reason being, in order for him to make a real impact you have to shell out 14.6 for his 2016-17 season, which eats into your budget for stars from other eras.

I still feel like having a combination like Lebron/Conley is a pretty big advantage. Normally in games with non all-stars there's an opportunity cost if you want to jump on the best one such as LA Bird's strategy in the current game, in this case they also get a top 2 player

My issue isn't so much balance as it is that I just think there's less decisions to make in this game. Without the option to have 5+ all-stars the FGAs (if they're in the game) won't affect the early picks as much. Normally in stacked drafts which this would probably be with the sign-ups recently, there's a mix of teams that were aggressive with the expensive players early + the ones that end up with 5 all NBA players at every starting position, or even a team like Prez's recently with all-stars deep into the bench. With a cap of 4 stars it's more likely everyone just takes the best players every pick, and especially with no FGA limit

Went with the FGA limit, but requiring the designated star from every decade to play at least 36 minutes in trying to keep with the intention of all decades being represented on a team.

Could you reduce it to 30? There are some stars that I wouldn't necessarily assign as many as 36 minutes.

[Laimbeer]

I still feel like having a combination like Lebron/Conley is a pretty big advantage. Normally in games with non all-stars there's an opportunity cost if you want to jump on the best one such as LA Bird's strategy in the current game, in this case they also get a top 2 player

My issue isn't so much balance as it is that I just think there's less decisions to make in this game. Without the option to have 5+ all-stars the FGAs (if they're in the game) won't affect the early picks as much. Normally in stacked drafts which this would probably be with the sign-ups recently, there's a mix of teams that were aggressive with the expensive players early + the ones that end up with 5 all NBA players at every starting position, or even a team like Prez's recently with all-stars deep into the bench. With a cap of 4 stars it's more likely everyone just takes the best players every pick, and especially with no FGA limit

Went with the FGA limit, but requiring the designated star from every decade to play at least 36 minutes in trying to keep with the intention of all decades being represented on a team.

Could you reduce it to 30? There are some stars that I wouldn't necessarily assign as many as 36 minutes.

Done. Just say when you want to cut off sign ups and make a draft thread, though we only have six so far.

[migya]

Would rather a fga limit, per decade even the way I said in a post above, to get everyone to make picks that are similar and consistent across all decades. It should be alright and interesting everyone's direction.

[Laimbeer]

Would rather a fga limit, per decade even the way I said in a post above, to get everyone to make picks that are similar and consistent across all decades. It should be alright and interesting everyone's direction.

I'm thinking the accolade limit will do that. You aren't going to be able to make a particularly big investment in any decade - just one really impactful player.