Future Draft Games

[Zion Wembanyama]

edit #3:
1. one MVP, two All-Star
2. two 1st team, two All-Star
3. two 2nd team, six 3rd team
4. one DPOY (only restriction), three All-Defensive (no 1st team or MVP)

- 1 MVP, 1 3rd team, 1 all-Star
- 2 1st team, 2 all-star
- 2 2nd team, 2 3rd team, 3 all-star
- 1 dpoy, 3 all-def, 2 3rd team, 1 all-star

is that better?

Idk, just throwing things against the wall. To truly answer that, I'd need to know which years were using. Please say 60-18...

[Dr Positivity]

Slight change:

one MVP, seven no accolades
two All-NBA 1st team, six no All-NBA (All-Star OK)
two All-NBA 2nd team, six All-NBA 3rd team, All-Star, or no accolades
one DPOY, seven All-NBA 3rd team, All-Star, or no accolades

2 all nba 1st and unlimited non all NBA all-stars is definitely stronger than MVP and no accolades to me

edit #3:
1. one MVP, two All-Star
2. two 1st team, two All-Star
3. two 2nd team, six 3rd team
4. one DPOY (only restriction), three All-Defensive (no 1st team or MVP)

That seems closer.

[Laimbeer]

What about a game where you give up FGAs to draft a player of a certain level? Everyone starts with 85, but you lose some if you draft certain players.

MVP - 15
First Team - 10
Second Team - 7
Third Team - 5
All-Star - 3

[Fadeaway_J]

What about a game where you give up FGAs to draft a player of a certain level? Everyone starts with 85, but you lose some if you draft certain players.

MVP - 15
First Team - 10
Second Team - 7
Third Team - 5
All-Star - 3

So if you draft Shaq for example it would cost you around 35 FGA?

I like the idea although it seems like one where Magic could end up running riot.

[Laimbeer]

What about a game where you give up FGAs to draft a player of a certain level? Everyone starts with 85, but you lose some if you draft certain players.

MVP - 15
First Team - 10
Second Team - 7
Third Team - 5
All-Star - 3

So if you draft Shaq for example it would cost you around 35 FGA?

I like the idea although it seems like one where Magic could end up running riot.

It favors Magic less then, say, declining percentages. The premium on him is the same as on Mike or Shaq, rather than being based on his original FGAs.

[Dr Positivity]

What about a game where you give up FGAs to draft a player of a certain level? Everyone starts with 85, but you lose some if you draft certain players.

MVP - 15
First Team - 10
Second Team - 7
Third Team - 5
All-Star - 3

I like the concept, some expensive teams though even if one goes the lower accolade route. Would something like this be worth considering

MVP: 12
First team: 7
Second team: 4
Third team: 2
All-star: 0

Same margins, the only difference is everything is less expensive vs non all-stars

[Fadeaway_J]

What about a game where you give up FGAs to draft a player of a certain level? Everyone starts with 85, but you lose some if you draft certain players.

MVP - 15
First Team - 10
Second Team - 7
Third Team - 5
All-Star - 3

So if you draft Shaq for example it would cost you around 35 FGA?

I like the idea although it seems like one where Magic could end up running riot.

It favors Magic less then, say, declining percentages. The premium on him is the same as on Mike or Shaq, rather than being based on his original FGAs.

Yeah I agree. The alternative would be to assign a total FGA number (say 30 for all MVPs) but that takes away a lot of the individuality of each team.

[Fadeaway_J]

What about a game where you give up FGAs to draft a player of a certain level? Everyone starts with 85, but you lose some if you draft certain players.

MVP - 15
First Team - 10
Second Team - 7
Third Team - 5
All-Star - 3

I like the concept, some expensive teams though even if one goes the lower accolade route. Would something like this be worth considering

MVP: 12
First team: 7
Second team: 4
Third team: 2
All-star: 0

Same margins, the only difference is everything is less expensive vs non all-stars

I prefer these numbers as well.

[Fadeaway_J]

What about doing another prediction draft for the upcoming season? and after the season we do playoffs

We really should get this going if we're doing it. Fade did a great job last time.

I would be down for a prediction draft. (Putting my name here in case I miss the sign up thread later)

I know we've got another game going, but this one is time sensitive so I'll be doing signups tonight with a view to kicking off by Monday. We don't want it bleeding into the start of the season like last year.

[Laimbeer]

So if you draft Shaq for example it would cost you around 35 FGA?

I like the idea although it seems like one where Magic could end up running riot.

It favors Magic less then, say, declining percentages. The premium on him is the same as on Mike or Shaq, rather than being based on his original FGAs.

Yeah I agree. The alternative would be to assign a total FGA number (say 30 for all MVPs) but that takes away a lot of the individuality of each team.

That's actually an interesting idea - same cost for all players of a particular level - just add like 15 to that original scale. Thirty for a MVP would generally be a little cheaper than FGA + 15 (most MVPs are above 15 FGAs). Would get us closer to the cost Dr P recommended.

[Dr Positivity]

That's actually an interesting idea - same cost for all players of a particular level - just add like 15 to that original scale. Thirty for a MVP would generally be a little cheaper than FGA + 15 (most MVPs are above 15 FGAs). Would get us closer to the cost Dr P recommended.

I think MJ is overpowered if he costs the same as other MVPs, same for Tmac and 1st team All-NBAs. I prefer your original idea

[Fadeaway_J]

It favors Magic less then, say, declining percentages. The premium on him is the same as on Mike or Shaq, rather than being based on his original FGAs.

Yeah I agree. The alternative would be to assign a total FGA number (say 30 for all MVPs) but that takes away a lot of the individuality of each team.

That's actually an interesting idea - same cost for all players of a particular level - just add like 15 to that original scale. Thirty for a MVP would generally be a little cheaper than FGA + 15 (most MVPs are above 15 FGAs). Would get us closer to the cost Dr P recommended.

I don't know, I'm still leaning more towards the strategic twist of adding FGAs. Everyone paying the exact same price for the same category of player would just make the paths too similar, IMO.

[migya]

How about something along the lines of what has been talked about recently:

The Accolades cost more draft -
-MVPs cost 5fgas more than their season fga,
-all nba 1st teamers cost 3fgas more,
-2nd teamers cost 2fgas more,
-3rd teamers cost 1fgas more,
-Allstars cost 0.5fgas more

85fga max for team like usual.

[Laimbeer]

What about a game where you give up FGAs to draft a player of a certain level? Everyone starts with 85, but you lose some if you draft certain players.

MVP - 15
First Team - 10
Second Team - 7
Third Team - 5
All-Star - 3

I like the concept, some expensive teams though even if one goes the lower accolade route. Would something like this be worth considering

MVP: 12
First team: 7
Second team: 4
Third team: 2
All-star: 0

Same margins, the only difference is everything is less expensive vs non all-stars

I prefer these numbers as well.

Scale it down by 20% maybe?

MVP: 12
First team: 8
Second team: 6
Third team: 4
All-star: 2

Really don't like all-stars at zero.

[Laimbeer]

Or what if the penalty declines by round?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1R8uLknWoAW8R7eeJH9qlcehjUd5h-OW7Wph-JZU4CFM/edit?usp=sharing

[Fadeaway_J]

I like the concept, some expensive teams though even if one goes the lower accolade route. Would something like this be worth considering

MVP: 12
First team: 7
Second team: 4
Third team: 2
All-star: 0

Same margins, the only difference is everything is less expensive vs non all-stars

I prefer these numbers as well.

Scale it down by 20% maybe?

MVP: 12
First team: 8
Second team: 6
Third team: 4
All-star: 2

Really don't like all-stars at zero.

Prefer this to the declining by round idea.

[euroleague]

Isn’t 7 FGA for 1st team all-NBA a little cheap?

[Laimbeer]

Isn’t 7 FGA for 1st team all-NBA a little cheap?

It's their FGAs plus a 7 FGA premium - or do you think that's not enough?

[Laimbeer]

I prefer these numbers as well.

Scale it down by 20% maybe?

MVP: 12
First team: 8
Second team: 6
Third team: 4
All-star: 2

Really don't like all-stars at zero.

Prefer this to the declining by round idea.

I'll make a signup later today.

[Dr Positivity]

Anyone interested in a relatively unrestricted draft? Might get some sign-ups