Not Loyal, No Journeyman Draft (Post Merger) - Discussion

[ReggiesKnicks]

What does everyone think of Olajuwon at PF?

I think another Milwaukee Bucks wing makes more sense.

Olajuwon was a maestro in a 4-out offense where he could isolate on the low block and without illegal defense to provide the artificial spacing, he really needs optimal spacing to fully utilize his deep bag and array of post-moves and counters.

[migya]

What does everyone think of Olajuwon at PF?

I think it could work, but it wouldn't be my first choice. Against my team, I will have AD at PF, so no issues there. But maybe against a team that could have someone like LeBron at PF, it would hurt to pull Hakeem out of the paint and have him running around chasing LeBron

At the other end though it'd be a massive mismatch in his favor. I just think Olajuwon is better than Duncan and faster and more athletic. Opponent outside shooting is not what he is used to but on the other side it's an even bigger difference.

[migya]

What does everyone think of Olajuwon at PF?

I think another Milwaukee Bucks wing makes more sense.

Olajuwon was a maestro in a 4-out offense where he could isolate on the low block and without illegal defense to provide the artificial spacing, he really needs optimal spacing to fully utilize his deep bag and array of post-moves and counters.

It worked well that way but with Sampson it worked as well also, only losing to the alltime great 86 Celts. I know this group in these games loves outside shooting to an enormous degree but want to know what majority thinks.

[JimmyPlopper]

What does everyone think of Olajuwon at PF?

I think it could work, but it wouldn't be my first choice. Against my team, I will have AD at PF, so no issues there. But maybe against a team that could have someone like LeBron at PF, it would hurt to pull Hakeem out of the paint and have him running around chasing LeBron

At the other end though it'd be a massive mismatch in his favor. I just think Olajuwon is better than Duncan and faster and more athletic. Opponent outside shooting is not what he is used to but on the other side it's an even bigger difference.

It would certainly cause a mismatch on the other side. I'm curious who you may pick - could be interesting to go against the "conventional wisdom" of Reggie and myself. Do whatever you feel is right

[ReggiesKnicks]

What does everyone think of Olajuwon at PF?

I think another Milwaukee Bucks wing makes more sense.

Olajuwon was a maestro in a 4-out offense where he could isolate on the low block and without illegal defense to provide the artificial spacing, he really needs optimal spacing to fully utilize his deep bag and array of post-moves and counters.

It worked well that way but with Sampson it worked as well also, only losing to the alltime great 86 Celts. I know this group in these games loves outside shooting to an enormous degree but want to know what majority thinks.

Yeah it worked in 1986 but, though I am new here on this forum board, I assume we play by modern rules and regulations?

Correct me if I am wrong though. I just went with an AD/Robinson PF/C combo in the previous game so I like going big as well. I'm a big fan of size wins basketball games but that size also needs to pass/shoot/rebound/defend.

[migya]

I think another Milwaukee Bucks wing makes more sense.

Olajuwon was a maestro in a 4-out offense where he could isolate on the low block and without illegal defense to provide the artificial spacing, he really needs optimal spacing to fully utilize his deep bag and array of post-moves and counters.

It worked well that way but with Sampson it worked as well also, only losing to the alltime great 86 Celts. I know this group in these games loves outside shooting to an enormous degree but want to know what majority thinks.

Yeah it worked in 1986 but, though I am new here on this forum board, I assume we play by modern rules and regulations?

Correct me if I am wrong though. I just went with an AD/Robinson PF/C combo in the previous game so I like going big as well. I'm a big fan of size wins basketball games but that size also needs to pass/shoot/rebound/defend.

I'm of similar thinking but yea, most here like the outside shooting. I don't see AD as more versatile than Olajuwon at all. If I can get the players I want, it'd fit and the rotation would be real good.

[ReggiesKnicks]

It worked well that way but with Sampson it worked as well also, only losing to the alltime great 86 Celts. I know this group in these games loves outside shooting to an enormous degree but want to know what majority thinks.

Yeah it worked in 1986 but, though I am new here on this forum board, I assume we play by modern rules and regulations?

Correct me if I am wrong though. I just went with an AD/Robinson PF/C combo in the previous game so I like going big as well. I'm a big fan of size wins basketball games but that size also needs to pass/shoot/rebound/defend.

I'm of similar thinking but yea, most here like the outside shooting. I don't see AD as more versatile than Olajuwon at all. If I can get the players I want, it'd fit and the rotation would be real good.

Cook it up!

[migya]

I think it could work, but it wouldn't be my first choice. Against my team, I will have AD at PF, so no issues there. But maybe against a team that could have someone like LeBron at PF, it would hurt to pull Hakeem out of the paint and have him running around chasing LeBron

At the other end though it'd be a massive mismatch in his favor. I just think Olajuwon is better than Duncan and faster and more athletic. Opponent outside shooting is not what he is used to but on the other side it's an even bigger difference.

It would certainly cause a mismatch on the other side. I'm curious who you may pick - could be interesting to go against the "conventional wisdom" of Reggie and myself. Do whatever you feel is right

I'm thinking a real big Center that is versatile enough and plays both ends. I'm not sure something like pairing with Mutombo would viewed as good, though again, I don't think AD is more versatile than Olajuwon and him with Mutombo would likely not be seen as a bad move.

[JimmyPlopper]

It worked well that way but with Sampson it worked as well also, only losing to the alltime great 86 Celts. I know this group in these games loves outside shooting to an enormous degree but want to know what majority thinks.

Yeah it worked in 1986 but, though I am new here on this forum board, I assume we play by modern rules and regulations?

Correct me if I am wrong though. I just went with an AD/Robinson PF/C combo in the previous game so I like going big as well. I'm a big fan of size wins basketball games but that size also needs to pass/shoot/rebound/defend.

I'm of similar thinking but yea, most here like the outside shooting. I don't see AD as more versatile than Olajuwon at all. If I can get the players I want, it'd fit and the rotation would be real good.

I think just because AD is quicker due to being much skinnier and less muscular - he has more of the quick twitch (in addition to a longer wingspan). Whereas Hakeem is just a better player flat out - better offense, better defense, better mentality, but I just think he's better suited at center.

Having said that - I tried to build a team around Iverson a little while ago, and I respect when people get creative and try something new. We aren't betting our life savings on this. There is a balance of taking it seriously enough to preserve the integrity of the game compared with the liberties we can take to try something new. I'd like to see your team with Hakeem at PF.

[JimmyPlopper]

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[flaco]

What does everyone think of Olajuwon at PF?

MVP Hakeem was scoring 1.18 PPP. This means a 39.3% 3pt shooter would be just as efficient as peak Hakeem. You could argue Hakeem's post ups would have been more efficient vs a modern-day swing, but the argument goes both ways: A perimeter shooter would have also been more efficient vs an interior-oriented defense.

Conventional 2-big lineups provide superior rim protection at the expense of perimeter D and spacing. That said, Hakeem is one of the handful of Centers who can defend the perimeter. I guess he'd be effective in a Giannis or KG role thanks to his elite mobility and length. Not sure whether the Rockets ever used him as a free safety on D. Probably not cause the #1 priority at the time was rim protection. In any case, your defense should be fine. Spacing is another story. I think you need a legit stretch 5 to make it work. Even then, you may actually be better off with a 3+D swing.

I got KG who's fairly similar to Hakeem on defense. Still not sure whether I'll use him at PF or C. Depends on who's left on the board.

[Larry_Russell]

Seeing how thin this draft seems to be at the wing, I just want to remind everyone about how much of a floor raiser Nash was.

One of the all time best at it. Made everyone so much more efficient on his teams.

[MadNESS]

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[MadNESS]

Everyone before me has their PG, and everyone after me has their center. This should set up perfectly for me.

[uberhikari]

Is this draft going to end or... Because it seems like everyone is struggling with finding picks.

[MadNESS]

Is this draft going to end or... Because it seems like everyone is struggling with finding picks.

Just a slow day, it’ll pick up

[durantbird]

Two in a row exhausting their clock is the worst

[MadNESS]

Seeing how thin this draft seems to be at the wing, I just want to remind everyone about how much of a floor raiser Nash was.

One of the all time best at it. Made everyone so much more efficient on his teams.

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[durantbird]

Seems like too much research

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[JimmyPlopper]

Seeing how thin this draft seems to be at the wing, I just want to remind everyone about how much of a floor raiser Nash was.

One of the all time best at it. Made everyone so much more efficient on his teams.

Sprewell rarely gets taken, but I think he fits in really well with Nash