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Post#81 » by SabasRevenge! » Mon Aug 3, 2009 4:10 pm

poopdamoop wrote:If we're having trouble getting 20 participants, why not just cut it to 14 or 16? Have the top eight teams face off in the playoffs, and the rest can be lottery teams. Teams will be deeper and more teams have better chances of striking gold in the lottery.

I was going to wait until the GM a Team sim finished, but it might be good to get this underway.

There are also teams that still need to post rosters/figure salaries.

If anyone wants to contact or help GMs who need to do so, feel free.
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Post#82 » by Snakebites » Mon Aug 3, 2009 4:50 pm

I'd prefer to at least wait until the ATL drafting portion is finished.

Just a couple days, and in that time maybe another participant or two will join.

I know there a few of us in that one, too.
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Post#83 » by CB-Blazer » Mon Aug 3, 2009 4:52 pm

The more teams the better.

Post it on the normal T&T boards IMO
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Post#84 » by SabasRevenge! » Mon Aug 3, 2009 5:32 pm

Snakebites wrote:I'd prefer to at least wait until the ATL drafting portion is finished.

Just a couple days, and in that time maybe another participant or two will join.

I know there a few of us in that one, too.

That sounds like pretty good timing. It would be great to start the contraction draft at the end of the week.
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Post#85 » by Snakebites » Mon Aug 3, 2009 5:39 pm

^Also, Johnson was banned.

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Post#86 » by bryant08 » Wed Aug 5, 2009 11:32 pm

I'll take the Knicks, TMACFORMVP will be posting my roster page as I'm away for the next 8 days.
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Post#87 » by Finger Roll » Thu Aug 6, 2009 12:55 am

Count me in for the Heat.

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Post#88 » by SabasRevenge! » Thu Aug 6, 2009 2:23 am

Four more spots!!!

We need a GM for Phoenix, Denver, and two more of the eastern conference teams.

Perhaps we should start the draft on Friday afternoon and roll with however many we have?

Someone can feel free to post a link to this on the trades and transactions board if that's okay. We may be able to find a few more reliable posters on there.
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Post#89 » by Gremz » Thu Aug 6, 2009 4:46 am

I'll post on the T & T board, hopefully we can get some guys from there.
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Post#90 » by NashtyNas » Thu Aug 6, 2009 6:28 pm

I'll take the Suns.

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Post#91 » by BlackIce » Thu Aug 6, 2009 7:58 pm

I am in, on vacation be back on the 17th. I will take the nets.

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Post#92 » by deNIEd » Thu Aug 6, 2009 8:43 pm

BlackIce wrote:I am in, on vacation be back on the 17th. I will take the nets.

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sooo long to wait...
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Post#93 » by SamBone » Thu Aug 6, 2009 9:59 pm

SabasRevenge! wrote:[size=150]

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We will be using January 1995 rosters, before the trading deadline has passed. Jordan is not presently on the Bulls



I just caught this, does this mean MJ will be a free agent for all to bid on?
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Post#94 » by poopdamoop » Fri Aug 7, 2009 1:13 pm

Random question, but how are we dealing with injuries and retirements? Maybe I didn't notice in the original post, but if a guy was injured for half the 1995-96 season, are we just assuming he'll be injured in this game too, even if he was traded or moved to a bench role or something? And are retirements set too? (eg Malone retires after the 03/04 season no matter what)
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Post#95 » by SabasRevenge! » Fri Aug 7, 2009 7:49 pm

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SabasRevenge! wrote:[size=150]
We will be using January 1995 rosters, before the trading deadline has passed. Jordan is not presently on the Bulls

I just caught this, does this mean MJ will be a free agent for all to bid on?

MJ is not a free agent because he was still under contract with the Bulls. He will be a free agent after the 1996 season though.

Jordan returns at the end of the season and is back for the playoffs, but it's not '96 Jordan. He shot .411 for the remainder of the '95 season and was definitely a bit rusty. He was better in the '95 playoffs, but still posted a career low playoff PER. '96 Jordan is a different story...

poopdamoop wrote:Random question, but how are we dealing with injuries and retirements? Maybe I didn't notice in the original post, but if a guy was injured for half the 1995-96 season, are we just assuming he'll be injured in this game too, even if he was traded or moved to a bench role or something? And are retirements set too? (eg Malone retires after the 03/04 season no matter what)

Injuries were a significant and sometimes defining facet of a career. Even though the situations will have changed, I believe that we should still consider injuries as a limiting factor. I think it's reasonable to see how long a player was injured, how effective they were upon their return, and if they were injured for the playoffs.

For me, a player's statistical output AND effectiveness/efficiency/contribution to winning will be considered.

EXAMPLE: Jerry Stackhouse might not be the best first option on a team that's trying to win, but he could be a terrific second or third option on a good or great team. Just because Stack scored almost 30 in '01 doesn't mean he'll produce the same on whatever team he's on in this game. It all depends on the role you designate for that player and how whether we believe that player will thrive in that role.

Another great example is my own Shawn Kemp. After Kemp was traded to Cleveland his usage soared and his efficiency decreased. He was expected to be the man and he was never a player who should have been thrust into that role. My plan with Kemp is to keep him in the same situation that he thrived in - as a 2nd or 3rd option with a great PG to allow the game to come to him. I make the case that Kemp's trade to Cleveland (while he was still in his prime) was a great detriment to his career and his legacy/production/efficiency would have been very different had he stayed in Seattle.

Also, George Karl was a horrible coach for Kendall Gill. He ran Gill out of town and was actually psychologically abusive to him. While Gill was statistically impressive in Seattle, he really thrived in the years right before and after Seattle - without Karl.

This game has room for historical context and interpretation by us GMs. I'm hopeful and confident that we will be able to create unique paths for players we already know and deduce a different, reasonable, and possibly greater outcome for them. Harold Miner won't turn into MJ or vice versa, but perhaps Nash begins to flourish earlier or maybe his production lags due to a slower pace, but he wins a chip playing with an incredibly efficient supporting cast that plays very good defense. Back to Kemp again, maybe he doesn't suffer the same fate he did after his trade to Cleveland. I wouldn't argue for a longer prime for Kemp, but I would argue for greater effectiveness during his prime.
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Post#96 » by SabasRevenge! » Fri Aug 7, 2009 7:56 pm

I'd like to get the contraction started tomorrow at the latest. If we don't find two more GMs we can move forward with 18, but it would be great to get those spots filled!
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Post#97 » by deNIEd » Fri Aug 7, 2009 8:39 pm

SabasRevenge! wrote:I'd like to get the contraction started tomorrow at the latest. If we don't find two more GMs we can move forward with 18, but it would be great to get those spots filled!


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Post#98 » by eitanr » Fri Aug 7, 2009 9:04 pm

l'll take the Hawks...right here!
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Post#99 » by Warspite » Fri Aug 7, 2009 9:25 pm

Ill jump in and take the Nuggets. Lets get this draft going
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Post#100 » by poopdamoop » Fri Aug 7, 2009 10:34 pm

SabasRevenge! wrote:Injuries were a significant and sometimes defining facet of a career. Even though the situations will have changed, I believe that we should still consider injuries as a limiting factor. I think it's reasonable to see how long a player was injured, how effective they were upon their return, and if they were injured for the playoffs.

For me, a player's statistical output AND effectiveness/efficiency/contribution to winning will be considered.


Ok thanks for the clarification. I was more wondering if someone was injured from Febuary-April in 1995, are we going to assume they were injured from that time period even if they get traded before then or something else changes. It's certainly something you have to consider when looking at drafting injury prone players throughout their career, but I'm more wondering how much we're going to punish those players.

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