Mock Off-Season: NBA Draft and continuation of Mock Offseason part 1

Soulyss · Post #861 » by **Soulyss** » Tue May 23, 2017 12:57 pm

bdpecore wrote:
Soulyss wrote:
bdpecore wrote:What are your current needs/wants?

Edit: I am willing to more Jerami Grant, Rashad Vaughn and Gary Payton II along with any future 2nd we own the rights to.

Right now I am planning on sitting tight and going BPA for my two picks... I like GP2, but not enough to move a pick.

Would you be willing to send a future 2nd pick swap for GP2?

No, but I will absorb him by giving you a non-guaranteed contract if you want to dump him.

spearsy23 · Post #862 » by **spearsy23** » Tue May 23, 2017 12:59 pm

We're going to finish the draft averaging over one page per pick

Soulyss · Post #863 » by **Soulyss** » Tue May 23, 2017 1:07 pm

stitches wrote:The Utah Jazz select Hamidou Diallo, SG, Kentucky with the 30th overall pick

I don't suppose you would be willing to trade Hamidou for #34 & 2018 2nd (Indiana, must be: 31-44)

stitches · Post #864 » by **stitches** » Tue May 23, 2017 1:09 pm

Knickfan1982 wrote:Nope. Wouldn't give up an extra pick for Exum or Lyles. Wouldn't give up a first rounder and Rubio for Favors. Don't think I'll be able to find a replacement for Rubio.

All proposed first rounders are coming from Utah, not from the other two teams. MIN gets a first from Utah(if they want Lyles or Exum) and PHX gets a first.

stitches · Post #865 » by **stitches** » Tue May 23, 2017 1:13 pm

Soulyss wrote:
stitches wrote:The Utah Jazz select Hamidou Diallo, SG, Kentucky with the 30th overall pick

I don't suppose you would be willing to trade Hamidou for #34 & 2018 2nd (Indiana, must be: 31-44)

No, sorry. I like Diallo.

bdpecore · Post #866 » by **bdpecore** » Tue May 23, 2017 1:17 pm

Soulyss wrote:
bdpecore wrote:
Soulyss wrote:
Right now I am planning on sitting tight and going BPA for my two picks... I like GP2, but not enough to move a pick.

Would you be willing to send a future 2nd pick swap for GP2?

No, but I will absorb him by giving you a non-guaranteed contract if you want to dump him.

He's also non-guaranteed next season but maybe we can simply swap NG'd deals to balance out our rosters. Who did you have in mind?

stitches · Post #867 » by **stitches** » Tue May 23, 2017 1:17 pm

spearsy23 wrote:We're going to finish the draft averaging over one page per pick

One page and one trade per pick.

bdpecore · Post #868 » by **bdpecore** » Tue May 23, 2017 1:20 pm

stitches wrote:
Soulyss wrote:
stitches wrote:The Utah Jazz select Hamidou Diallo, SG, Kentucky with the 30th overall pick

I don't suppose you would be willing to trade Hamidou for #34 & 2018 2nd (Indiana, must be: 31-44)

No, sorry. I like Diallo.

Diallo is a great lottery ticket pick. He's so raw but has all the athleticism and measurables to be a star player if he can put it all together. Good value at #30 since many Bucks fans were considering him at #17.

stitches · Post #869 » by **stitches** » Tue May 23, 2017 1:25 pm

bdpecore wrote:
stitches wrote:
Soulyss wrote:
I don't suppose you would be willing to trade Hamidou for #34 & 2018 2nd (Indiana, must be: 31-44)

No, sorry. I like Diallo.

Diallo is a great lottery ticket pick. He's so raw but has all the athleticism and measurables to be a star player if he can put it all together. Good value at #30 since many Bucks fans were considering him at #17.

Yep, he is indeed a lottery ticket. I decided to pick him in the first so I'd have 1 extra year of development. I imagine he will spend a lot of time in the D-League the first year.

bdpecore · Post #870 » by **bdpecore** » Tue May 23, 2017 1:28 pm

Ayatollah wrote:
bdpecore wrote:.

Denver is interested in your 2nd and offer Ed Davis and the SAC/POR 2nd in 2018

I might be interested in moving #47 but i don't have the cap space to absorb Ed Davis. Would you be willing to consider Malik Beasley and SAC/POR 2nd in 2018 for Rashad Vaughn and #47?

bdpecore · Post #871 » by **bdpecore** » Tue May 23, 2017 1:30 pm

stitches wrote:
bdpecore wrote:
stitches wrote:No, sorry. I like Diallo.

Diallo is a great lottery ticket pick. He's so raw but has all the athleticism and measurables to be a star player if he can put it all together. Good value at #30 since many Bucks fans were considering him at #17.

Yep, he is indeed a lottery ticket. I decided to pick him in the first so I'd have 1 extra year of development. I imagine he will spend a lot of time in the D-League the first year.

Try his first 2-3 years...lol

Mich3006 · Post #872 » by **Mich3006** » Tue May 23, 2017 1:41 pm

bdpecore wrote:
Ayatollah wrote:
bdpecore wrote:.

Denver is interested in your 2nd and offer Ed Davis and the SAC/POR 2nd in 2018

I might be interested in moving #47 but i don't have the cap space to absorb Ed Davis. Would you be willing to consider Malik Beasley and SAC/POR 2nd in 2018 for Rashad Vaughn and #47?

Davis is on a $6 expiring... We don't want to trade Beasley though

bdpecore · Post #873 » by **bdpecore** » Tue May 23, 2017 1:45 pm

Ayatollah wrote:
bdpecore wrote:
Ayatollah wrote:

Denver is interested in your 2nd and offer Ed Davis and the SAC/POR 2nd in 2018

I might be interested in moving #47 but i don't have the cap space to absorb Ed Davis. Would you be willing to consider Malik Beasley and SAC/POR 2nd in 2018 for Rashad Vaughn and #47?

Davis is on a $6 expiring...

I know but have an agreed deal with Charlotte to acquire Marvin Williams after the draft. So I need to keep all my cap space available. Would you be willing to do Singler and #47 for Davis. This way you keep you future pick and still get our 2nd. Thoughts?

Mich3006 · Post #874 » by **Mich3006** » Tue May 23, 2017 1:48 pm

bdpecore wrote:
Ayatollah wrote:
bdpecore wrote:I might be interested in moving #47 but i don't have the cap space to absorb Ed Davis. Would you be willing to consider Malik Beasley and SAC/POR 2nd in 2018 for Rashad Vaughn and #47?

Davis is on a $6 expiring...

I know but have an agreed deal with Charlotte to acquire Marvin Williams after the draft. So I need to keep all my cap space available. Would you be willing to do Singler and #47 for Davis. This way you keep you future pick and still get our 2nd. Thoughts?

I don't want to take on useless salary, sorry.

I only offered Davis because of his cheap expiring, he has the value at least for a 2nd

stitches · Post #875 » by **stitches** » Tue May 23, 2017 1:49 pm

Soulyss wrote:
stitches wrote:The Utah Jazz select Hamidou Diallo, SG, Kentucky with the 30th overall pick

I don't suppose you would be willing to trade Hamidou for #34 & 2018 2nd (Indiana, must be: 31-44)

Hey Soulyss, can you post your roster right now? I want to see if you can facilitate a trade for me and in case you can(and want to) I might be willing to include Diallo in the package coming to you.

bdpecore · Post #876 » by **bdpecore** » Tue May 23, 2017 1:52 pm

Ayatollah wrote:
bdpecore wrote:
Ayatollah wrote:Davis is on a $6 expiring...

I know but have an agreed deal with Charlotte to acquire Marvin Williams after the draft. So I need to keep all my cap space available. Would you be willing to do Singler and #47 for Davis. This way you keep you future pick and still get our 2nd. Thoughts?

I don't want to take on useless salary, sorry.

I only offered Davis because of his cheap expiring, he has the value at least for a 2nd

I completely agree Davis has value but just do not have the cap space to fully absorb him. Although I wish i did since he's just the kind of player I'm looking for to round out my rotation.

Soulyss · Post #877 » by **Soulyss** » Tue May 23, 2017 1:56 pm

stitches wrote:
Soulyss wrote:
stitches wrote:The Utah Jazz select Hamidou Diallo, SG, Kentucky with the 30th overall pick

I don't suppose you would be willing to trade Hamidou for #34 & 2018 2nd (Indiana, must be: 31-44)

Hey Soulyss, can you post your roster right now? I want to see if you can facilitate a trade for me and in case you can(and want to) I might be willing to include Diallo in the package coming to you.

Will do.

wackbone · Post #878 » by **wackbone** » Tue May 23, 2017 1:59 pm

Mystical Apples wrote:The Miami Heat would like to explore Hassan Whiteside's trade market.

The Celtics are interested. How about a deal of Al Horford + Terry Rozier + Boston's 2018 1st?

bdpecore · Post #879 » by **bdpecore** » Tue May 23, 2017 2:00 pm

Anybody interested in taking on Kyle Singler if we included our 2018 2nd and Orlando's 2019 2nd?

kalenclayton · Post #880 » by **kalenclayton** » Tue May 23, 2017 2:15 pm

spearsy23 wrote:
kalenclayton wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:Curious if you're trying to clear space to make a run at cp3?

Jredsaz: If this is the case, the Kings may be interested in helping out with that. We can help the Spurs get cap space in exchange for future draft picks. Just let Sacramento know if this interests you.

Speaking of which, I have an interesting conundrum with Spencer hawes, who you obviously can't actually have on your roster. But what would it cost to dump him and return one of your centers? He's an expiring, so cutting him doesn't leave you on the hook past thus year.

He is kinda like "he who must not be named" around here.

It really depends though. We actually positively value all of Cauley-Stein, Koufos, and Papagiannis. They are ranked as follows (irl):
1. WCS (lots of potential, shown flashes of really, really good play, possible C of the future, great teammate)
2. Papa (young, tremendous size, Vlade's guy, surprisingly lots of potential)
3. Koufos (mentor to Papa, does whatever coach says, loved by Vlade and Joerger, good teammate)

I've tried to stay as true as possible to what I think Vlade would do. I just don't see Vlade moving any one of these three without large compensation. Koufos would take the least amount, but we would probably want a future first for him. We understand that is a high price, but that is what his value is to us.