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ATL -1 Player League Signups/Discussion

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:44 pm
by -Kees-
Ok I have been talking with some people about a new ATL since the old one is just finishing. The Multi-Year GM game also needs some work still, so I thought I'd start this in the mean time. This was Cellar's idea, and he didn't mind that I run it, so here it goes.

11 rounds, ABCD style drafting (to compensate for this game's style), hopefully 16 posters in this game. Every player is available.

ABCD is this:

A - 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16
B - 16,15,14,13,12,11,10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1
C - 9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8
D - 8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1,16,15,14,13,12,11,10,9

The twist comes in the match ups. In each of your first 4 matchups you can't play with one of your first 4 draft picks. So if you get Jordan, Magic, Kareem and Bird in your first 4 picks, one of the games you will be without Jordan, and you get the others, another game you are without Magic, but have the others and so on. Each game you get to chose who to drop, but after the first 4 matchups, you must have dropped each of your first 4 picks once.

The strategy comes in the drafting, and who you chose to drop. Since you lose 1 of your main players each matchup, the 10 other players you have should be versatile, to compensate the loss of the player you lose in each matchup.

The choice on who to drop is also important. You could drop your 2 worst players (picks 3 and 4) in the first rounds to get to the 2nd round, or you could save your best players (picks 1 and 2) for the later rounds, but risk not getting there at all. Or you could do something else, it's all up to you.

The draft won't start for a while (a week or so?) because the current ATL isn't quite done (and I don't want to be stepping on anyone's toes... :oops: ) so we'll wait for then to start the draft.

Also, if you sign up, please try and be active the whole time, we had a bit of an issue with that last game, just want it to be fun and fair for everyone.

List of participants:

1) Keeslinator
2) CellarDoor
3) lukekarts
4) Snakebites
5) Miller4ever
6) Warriorfan
7) poopdamoop
8) JoebobLollipop
9) RiotPunch
10) MJallday59
11) GrantHill
12) TMACFORMVP
13) dockingsched
14) BlackIce
15) DavidStern
16) bastillon

Re: ATL -1 Player League Signups

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 8:15 pm
by lukekarts
I'm in!

Re: ATL -1 Player League Signups

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 8:27 pm
by Snakebites
Sure, sounds interesting.

Re: ATL -1 Player League Signups

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 11:23 pm
by Miller4ever
Yes, I'm in.

Re: ATL -1 Player League Signups

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:08 am
by CellarDoor
what's the reasoning for ABCD?

Re: ATL -1 Player League Signups

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:18 am
by -Kees-
CellarDoor wrote:what's the reasoning for ABCD?


Me and Snake were talking about this, and we decided to try it.

The main reason that people went to ABBA was to prevent teams with the #1 to have the best 3rd round pick too. But in this game it's a bit different.

Say #1 faces #10, for instance. Both decide to drop their 1st round pick. All of a sudden, #10 has 2 of the 3 best players, and it would be very hard for #1 to win. Since #1 is, at some point, forced to drop their 1st pick, sometime they will be at a disadvantage because any other team will have higher players than him.

We can go back to ABBA, I just thought this MIGHT work better. It's open for change, though, so if you and/or others want to go back to ABBA we can.

Re: ATL -1 Player League Signups

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 1:41 am
by Snakebites
Yeah, we basically saw an inherent advantage to later picks (lower impact of losing their best man) and this is a way of meeting that halfway.

It doesnt really hurt or help anyone by more than 8 picks though.

Re: ATL -1 Player League Signups

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:28 pm
by Snakebites
Looks like the NBPA has decided to extend the offseason indefinitely. Games like this will be my survival mechanism. :(

Re: ATL -1 Player League Signups

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:16 pm
by SamBone
sounds fun and interesting, but I will have some activity issues, so everything with me depends on the start up date. I will not on much at all the few days around Thanksgiving (11/23 till 11/27) and will be away on vaction from (12/2 till 12/12) when I will not be checking anything. So unless things wait, I will not be active enough

Re: ATL -1 Player League Signups

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:44 am
by Warriorfan
Im In. Kees says there is time between matches so time zones and travel won't be an issue for me.

Re: ATL -1 Player League Signups

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:48 am
by -Kees-
Ok that's 6 people. 10 to go! :P

I've talked to some people, and I think we should be getting a few more pretty soon. Hopefully.

Re: ATL -1 Player League Signups

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:27 am
by poopdamoop
Yeah with no NBA looks like this is the closest I'm gonna get. I'm in

Re: ATL -1 Player League Signups

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:53 am
by JoebobLollipop
i'll join

Re: ATL -1 Player League Signups

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:23 pm
by RiotPunch
Sure, why not. Sign me up.

Re: ATL -1 Player League Signups

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:21 pm
by MJallday59
Yep!!

Re: ATL -1 Player League Signups

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 10:10 pm
by -Kees-
Ok that's 10, I'm hoping for 6 more, but if we can only get 2 we can start with 12. But with all players involved it would be REALLY nice to get 16.

Re: ATL -1 Player League Signups

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 9:23 pm
by GrantHill
Count me in!

Re: ATL -1 Player League Signups

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:32 am
by TMACFORMVP
Hmm, sign me up.

Re: ATL -1 Player League Signups

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:56 am
by dockingsched
in.

edit: feel free to cut me off if you go with 12 though.

Re: ATL -1 Player League Signups

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:07 am
by BlackIce
WTH, I`ll give it a go.