GMAT: March Madness Edition : 2012 FA lists

[SamBone]

ok, this is a work in progress,

I hope to get a list of available plyers for now, but this is a list for the FAs this summer. Let me know if anyone is missed or on this that should not be. I will be reworking it, but figured input from you on who is missing would help.

ETO/PO’s

Brandon Bass
Elton Brand
Matt Carroll
Earl Clark
Jamal Crawford
DeSagana Diop
Jordan Farmar
Derek Fisher
Dwight Howard
Dahntay Jones
Jason Maxiell
Jameer Nelson
Ramon Sessions
Beno Udrih
Gerald Wallace
Lou Williams
Mo Williams
Deron Williams
Shawne Williams

RFA:

Eric Gordon
Brook Lopez
Michael Beasley
Nicolas Batum
Roy Hibbert
J.J. Hickson
Jeremy Lin
O.J. Mayo
JaVale McGee
Ryan Anerson
Omer Asik
D.J. Augustin
Jerryd Bayless
George Hill
Landry Fields
Rudy Fernandez
Robin Lopez
Jason Thompson
Anthony Randolph
Jodie Meeks
Brandon Rush
Courtney Lee
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LaVoy Allen
David Andersen
Darrell Arthur
Derrick Caracter
Zabian Dowdell
Devin Ebanks
Semih Erden
Jeremy Evans
Suindiata Gaines
Alonzo Gee
Mickell Gladness
Danny Green
Donte Greene
Luke Harengody
Terel Harris
Manny Harris
Cory Higgins
Dennis Horner
Armon Johnson
Ivan Johnson
Chris Johnson
Kosta Koufos
DeAndre Liggins
Vernon Macklin
Darius Morris
A.J. Price
Magnum Rolle
Garret Siler
Donald Sloan
Ish Smith
Maurice Speights
Greg Steinsma
DJ White
Terrico White
Chris Wright
Sam Young

UFA:

Tier 1

Dwight Howard
Deron Williams

Tier 2 –
Ray Allen
Chauncey Billups
Wilson Chandler
Tim Duncan
Raymond Felton
Kirk Hinrich
Chris Kaman
Andrei Kirilenko
Steve Nash
Kevin Garnett
Kris Humphries


Tier 3 -
Jeff Green
Spencer Hawes
Leandro Barbosa
Marcus Camby
Antawn Jamison
Jason Kidd
Carl Landry
Andre Miller
J.R. Smith
Jason Terry
Nick Young

Tier 4 -

Gilbert Arenas
Matt Barnes
Aaron Brooks
Boris Diaw
Goran Dragic
Grant Hill
Tracy McGrady
Randy Foye

Tier 5

Alexis Ajinca
Louis Amundson
Hilton Armstrong
Carlos Arroyo
Marcus Banks
Earl Barron
Tony Battie
Marco Belinelli
Charlie Bell
Raja Bell
Mike Bibby
Keith Bogans
Boran Bogdanovic
Earl Boykins
Derrick Brown
Kwame Brown
Shannon Brown
Rasual Butler
Brian Cardinal
DeMarr Carroll
Anthony Carter
Earl Clark
Brian Cook
Jason Collins
Eddy Curry
Erick Dampier
Antonio Daniels
Marquis Daniels
Baron Davis
Josh Davis
Carlos Delfino
Ike Diogu
Keyon Dooling
Joey Dorsey
Francisco Elson
Melvin Ely
Jeremy Evans
Maurice Evans
Reggie Evans
Christain Eyenga
TJ Ford
Jeff Foster
T.J. Ford
Dan Gadzuric
Sundiata Gaines
Joey Graham
Stephen Graham
Aaron Gray
Willie Green
Hamed Haddadi
Ryan Hollins
Eddie House
Josh Howard
Juwan Howard
Larry Hughes
Didier Ilunga-Mbenga
Ersan Ilyasova
Royal Ivey
Darnell Jackson
Jared Jeffries
Trey Johnson
Dantay Jones
Solomon Jones
Jason Kapono
Acie Law
Jamaal Magloire
Ian Mahinmi
Kenyon Martin
Atok Majok
Roger Mason
Dominic McGuire
C.J. Miles
Nazr Mohammed
Jamario Moon
Darius Morris
Troy Murphy
Eduardo Najera
Hamady Ndiaye
Steve Novak
Greg Oden
Mehmet Okur
Jermaine O'Neal
Larry Owens
Jannero Pargo
Anthony Parker
Sasha Pavlovic
Nikola Pekovic
Johan Petro
Mickael Pietrus
James Posey
Leon Powe
Josh Powell
Ronnie Price
Chris Quinn
Vlad Radmonovic
Michael Redd
Andy Routins
Brian Scalabrine
Mustafa Shakur
Craig Smith
Ishmael Smith
Jerry Stackhouse
DeShawn Stevenson
DeJuan Summers
Sebastian Telfair
Etan Thomas
Al Thornton
Anthony Tolliver
Ronny Turiaf
Sasha Vujacic
Delonte West
Bill Walker
Ben Wallace
Chris Wilcox
Damien Wilkins
Sean Williams
Shelden Williams
Julian Wright

I also plan to get a list of real life options that were declined, just have not gotten around to it

[SamBone]

here are guys that I found had their rookie scale 2012/2013 team options declined, that makes these guys 2013 UFAs

Hasheem Thabeet
Johnny Fynn
Jordan Hill
Terrance Williams
Daniel Orton

[ATL Boy]

Lou Williams isn't a FA this season, he doesn't have a player option for next year.
http://www.spotrac.com/nba/philadelphia ... -williams/

[SamBone]

Lou has an ETO for 2012/2013.

check out
sham ( http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages ... sixers.jsp ) which is our official site for salary
storytellers ( http://www.storytellerscontracts.com/ ) our unofficial link
or ESPN FA list ( http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/Fre ... -2012-2013 )

[ATL Boy]

Lou has an ETO for 2012/2013.

check out
sham ( http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages ... sixers.jsp ) which is our official site for salary
storytellers ( http://www.storytellerscontracts.com/ ) our unofficial link
or ESPN FA list ( http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/Fre ... -2012-2013 )

oh, well thanks

[HartfordWhalers]

Do you want input on who is likely to opt out?

[SamBone]

private input is always welcome, please when it gets closer you can send me your thoughts (I like knowing others thoughts)

It will not be a negotiation, but valid points on both sides will be considered

[HartfordWhalers]

private input is always welcome, please when it gets closer you can send me your thoughts (I like knowing others thoughts)

It will not be a negotiation, but valid points on both sides will be considered

Sounds good, I'm sure whatever you pick will be perfect. This place seems like it might have a slightly different economy then the NBA in general, so even if a player might not opt out in the real nba they might be expected to here.

One small thing, and I didn't know the best place for it so figured I would put it here:

Jeff Green – will be a UFA in 2012, but Boston has his Bird Rights, can only be traded as a S&T in free Agency since he is not under contract

While Boston has his Bird Rights still, they shouldn't be able to be S&T'ed him with the new CBA in an addition that cuts down the use of shenanigans like resigning Keith Van Horn for trades.

But with the new CBA, sign-and-trade deals are no longer allowed once the season starts. Also, the player now has to have finished the MOST RECENT season with the team — so even if Smith goes unsigned for the remainder of the season, the Nuggets can’t sign-and-trade him.

[Warriorfan]

On Free Agency my half cent

I think all the RFA should go to he highest bidder since it is their first contract. That can be a week of open bidding on the thread. Designated agents can break a tie and choose a destination.

Other younger free agents like Wilson Chandler, Nick Young, Hawes would be out for the money as well so that could be open bidding.

Older Premeire guys like Nash, KG Duncan should have multiple criteria for signing posted before free agency. Contender, West Coast, Return Home, Money Coach, Style of play. Nash, Grant and Stockton were not ring chasers. Payton and Malone were. Guys like Kidd,Hill, Duncan would play for the mini MLE while KG TMAC who may have more in the tank would sign with good team for more money.

On the option players I think the Jameers and Mo Williams might opt out due to the best FA guards Rose Westbrook CP3 are off the market so they might do better now in the open market.

[SamBone]

Hart, on the Jeff Green S&T, yes he can't be delt during the season, but Boston does still have his rites in the offseason, and during FA period can S&T him (I am pretty sure that is correct)

WF: sort of agrre with most your points
- location does help when offers are close but if a EC guy gets offered a few mill more to play on a winner on the WC, he will take that deal
- vets like KG, TD, Hill: i agree they may take less money to play on a ligit contender then they would to play on a rebuilding team, but it is doubtful they do that for les then the MLE, but it depends on the offers i guess
- and as far ar ETOs, I really dont want to discuss till the time comes, and I dont want it to be a public arguing point. I gladly will listen to all opinions when the time comes, but it will be via email, not on the board

[HartfordWhalers]

Hart, on the Jeff Green S&T, yes he can't be delt during the season, but Boston does still have his rites in the offseason, and during FA period can S&T him (I am pretty sure that is correct)

WF: sort of agrre with most your points
- location does help when offers are close but if a EC guy gets offered a few mill more to play on a winner on the WC, he will take that deal
- vets like KG, TD, Hill: i agree they may take less money to play on a ligit contender then they would to play on a rebuilding team, but it is doubtful they do that for les then the MLE, but it depends on the offers i guess
- and as far ar ETOs, I really dont want to discuss till the time comes, and I dont want it to be a public arguing point. I gladly will listen to all opinions when the time comes, but it will be via email, not on the board

I really don't think it matters , but since he wasn't on the squad this year I don't see how that new CBA provision doesn't apply, just as it forbids JR Smith S&T it should forbid Jeff Green S&T's.

[SamBone]

I am not 100% positive, but I think the signing a contract overseas did something to the "bird rites", again not positive but I believe that is why those guys dont have the same "rites" that someone like Grreen does. But I would love for someone to find out for sure

[HartfordWhalers]

I already posted in the CBA forum to see if someone there could confirm (or deny it).

Should I keep being a wet blanket and suggest that you can't really trade mid season signings (ai)? Nope. I think its hysterical after waiting 2 months to catch on anywhere he then gets traded a day and maybe wihout even playing a game later.

[SamBone]

lol, ya min signings then being traded is just a way to stay within limits and stuff.

we will try to use some sort of restrictions on true FA signings once we get to the "offseason" which has been an issue in the past, we will see how that works

[SamBone]

PS and thanks for trying to get an answer on the Green things

[orangeparka]

I think no-trade clauses could work for the old FA vets like KG/Ray/Duncan/etc.

It wouldn't be fair if a contending team got one of them on the cheap, and then traded his ass away to a rebuilding team for value, for example.

[SamBone]

i cant/wont change rules midgame. I did put some restrictions, hopefully they work and people will buy into the idea. baby steps, lol

all rules have been listed in the opening thread (I believe)

CBA rulings are different then in game made up rules which the no trade would be

[SamBone]

people are asking so here goes, I think these are correct

Here are the max contracts:

0-6 years in the league: Starting at $15,000,000
7-9 years in the league: Starting at $18,000,000
10+ years in the league: Starting at $21,000,000

Teams with Bird Rights can offer a max of 5 years, 7.5% raises
Teams without Bird Rights can offer a max of 4 years, 4.5% raises

Max Contract Totals:

0-6 years in the league without BR: (RFAs, ect)

$15,000,000
$15,675,000
$16,350,000
$17,025,000
Total: 4 years, $64,050,000

0-6 years in the league with BR: (RFAs, ect)

$15,000,000
$16,125,000
$17,250,000
$18,375,000
$19,500,000
Total: 5 years, $86,250,000

7-9 years in the league without BR: (Deron, GWallace ect)

$18,000,000
$18,810,000
$19,620,000
$20,430,000
Total: 4 years, $76,860,000

note: Dwight can get paid more since 105% of previous salary is above this number. A Dwight Howard max deal can start at $18,996,359

7-9 years in the league with BR:

$18,000,000
$19,350,000
$20,700,000
$22,050,000
$23,400,000
Total: 5 years, $103,500,000

note: Dwight can get paid more since 105% of previous salary is above this number. A Dwight Howard max deal can start at $18,996,359

10+ years in the league without BR: (KG, Duncan, ect)

$21,000,000
$21,945,000
$22,890,000
$23,835,000
Total: 4 years, $89,670,000

10+ years in the league with BR: (KG, Duncan, ect)

$21,000,000
$22,575,000
$24,150,000
$25,725,000
$27,300,000
Total: 5 years, $120,750,000


EXEMPTION VALUES

Teams that are over the cap ($60m, but under the tax $75m)
*not if you use the MLE, your total team salary can NEVER go above $79mil

*this can be split to sign more then 1 guy

MLE
$5,000,000
$5,225,000
$5,450,000
$5,675,000
Total : 4 years, $21,350,000

Teams that are over the tax ($75m in salary, cap holds count)

Mini MLE
$3,000,000
$3,135,000
$3,270,000
Total : 3 years, $9,405,000

If you were under the cap and used your cap up to sign players, you then will get to use the new midlevel which is (should be called the Heat Exemption, lol)

$2,500,000
$2,612,500
Total: $5,112,500

[ATL Boy]

Raymon Felton is an RFA
http://www.spotrac.com/nba/portland-tra ... nd-felton/

[SamBone]

check out
sham ( http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages ... sixers.jsp ) which is our official site for salary
storytellers ( http://www.storytellerscontracts.com/ ) our unofficial link
or ESPN FA list ( http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/Fre ... -2012-2013 )

bro that site your using is once again incorrect. Use Sham, or any of these others I linked for you.

Ray was a RFA about 3-4 years ago, he has signed 2 small contracts since then