Future Games / New Ideas / Suggestion Thread

[Tony Snell]

I am all aboard for this draft next. I think including Europeans would be best.

[BdeRegt]

I feel like you'd have to make a list of all eligible players so isn't any confusion. For instance, does Klay Thompson count as eligible? I would think yes but not sure what others are thinking

[MadNESS]

I feel like you'd have to make a list of all eligible players so isn't any confusion. For instance, does Klay Thompson count as eligible? I would think yes but not sure what others are thinking

Klay
Kidd
Blake
Wouldn't count

[BdeRegt]

I feel like you'd have to make a list of all eligible players so isn't any confusion. For instance, does Klay Thompson count as eligible? I would think yes but not sure what others are thinking

Klay
Kidd
Blake
Wouldn't count

This is why I think there has to be a list of who is eligible so it is clear before the draft and not any debate after someone is selected whether they are eligible.

[MadNESS]

I feel like you'd have to make a list of all eligible players so isn't any confusion. For instance, does Klay Thompson count as eligible? I would think yes but not sure what others are thinking

Klay
Kidd
Blake
Wouldn't count

This is why I think there has to be a list of who is eligible so it is clear before the draft and not any debate after someone is selected whether they are eligible.

There's like a million name list we could have here lol.

[wackbone]

Klay
Kidd
Blake
Wouldn't count

This is why I think there has to be a list of who is eligible so it is clear before the draft and not any debate after someone is selected whether they are eligible.

There's like a million name list we could have here lol.

I would say it's up to the drafter to look up the player if there was any doubt. It just might be easier to create a list of guys that are on the fence and make it clear you can't take them?

[Fadeaway_J]

This is why I think there has to be a list of who is eligible so it is clear before the draft and not any debate after someone is selected whether they are eligible.

There's like a million name list we could have here lol.

I would say it's up to the drafter to look up the player if there was any doubt. It just might be easier to create a list of guys that are on the fence and make it clear you can't take them?

That would be easier, but even then trying to put together a list of that nature seems neither practical nor necessary to me. It's not like there's a "race" page on Basketball Reference to refer to.

99% of them would be pretty obvious. Any uncertain cases could just be referred to the commish for a ruling.

[BdeRegt]

I haven't looked at how much it would change things but how about using playoff numbers for FGAs. You could do something like must have played 5 playoff games and have it more focused on playoff numbers with playoff FGAs totalling less than 90.

[MadNESS]

There's like a million name list we could have here lol.

I would say it's up to the drafter to look up the player if there was any doubt. It just might be easier to create a list of guys that are on the fence and make it clear you can't take them?

That would be easier, but even then trying to put together a list of that nature seems neither practical nor necessary to me. It's not like there's a "race" page on Basketball Reference to refer to.

99% of them would be pretty obvious. Any uncertain cases could just be referred to the commish for a ruling.

Yeap let's do it

[janmagn]

Got this crazy idea: how about if we used MPG as the restrictive value? Everyone gets 240 minutes, you have to play the player as many minutes as they played in the selected season per game. Changes the player values a lot.

Example: my team in Forgotten Stars

PG: '96 Gary Payton 39.0MPG
SG: '77 Pete Maravich 41.7MPG
SF: '16 Jared Dudley 25.9MPG
PF: '92 Horace Grant 35.3MPG
C: '76 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 41.2MPG

G: '13 Thabo Sefolosha 27.5MPG
F: '17 Joe Ingles 24.0MPG
C: '16 Bismack Biyombo 22.0MPG

257.6/240

Now, this team is over the limit, but you get the point about how it could work. This would be a great way to have drafts that we can draft more than 8 guys. If we have MPG to spend, we can use them for a 9th or 10th man if we want.

[Laimbeer]

Would it be too much if we excluded all All-NBA players from the next Forgotten Stars draft? The point was to build around these guys, now we just built around the normal guys but used some players never used

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Yeah, I thought wacking 25 FGAs would help avoid this, but the normal top guys were all pretty much still drafted.

Maybe next time draft two forgotten stars and allow no other all-NBA?

[Fadeaway_J]

Would it be too much if we excluded all All-NBA players from the next Forgotten Stars draft? The point was to build around these guys, now we just built around the normal guys but used some players never used

Lähetetty minun LG-H440n laitteesta Tapatalkilla

Yeah, I thought wacking 25 FGAs would help avoid this, but the normal top guys were all pretty much still drafted.

Maybe next time draft two forgotten stars and allow no other all-NBA?

This is why I ended up not playing. In fact, the whole idea of creating a banned list was specifically to ensure the "forgotten stars" would be foundation pieces and not just add-ons to a regular team.

All-NBA players is too broad a categorisation though. DeAndre Jordan (non All-Star) and Steph Curry (unanimous MVP) both made the first team in 2015-16. I still think a banned list is the way to go.

[Tony Snell]

Would it be too much if we excluded all All-NBA players from the next Forgotten Stars draft? The point was to build around these guys, now we just built around the normal guys but used some players never used

Lähetetty minun LG-H440n laitteesta Tapatalkilla

Yeah, I thought wacking 25 FGAs would help avoid this, but the normal top guys were all pretty much still drafted.

Maybe next time draft two forgotten stars and allow no other all-NBA?

For the most part, I think that the 25 FGA reduction had the biggest effect on the 6th man and the bench, and then maybe the 5th starter is a defensive specialist/3&D guy. Most benches in this game, including my own, are questionable. I do like the idea of further limiting the full talent pool with the double exception.

[Fadeaway_J]

How far along is the current draft? Should we be deciding on the next one right about now?

[Laimbeer]

Would it be too much if we excluded all All-NBA players from the next Forgotten Stars draft? The point was to build around these guys, now we just built around the normal guys but used some players never used

Lähetetty minun LG-H440n laitteesta Tapatalkilla

Yeah, I thought wacking 25 FGAs would help avoid this, but the normal top guys were all pretty much still drafted.

Maybe next time draft two forgotten stars and allow no other all-NBA?

This is why I ended up not playing. In fact, the whole idea of creating a banned list was specifically to ensure the "forgotten stars" would be foundation pieces and not just add-ons to a regular team.

All-NBA players is too broad a categorisation though. DeAndre Jordan (non All-Star) and Steph Curry (unanimous MVP) both made the first team in 2015-16. I still think a banned list is the way to go.

It was still an interesting game, but people did pack in more stars than I thought. I'd be down for a banned list. How extensive would it be? I mean, would it reach down to a Barkley/Malones/Ewing level? Are we talking about 10? 20? 30? More?

[Laimbeer]

So we've got the 35% from three and random year based on the draft finishing strong in the last poll, while White Men Can't Jump and Banned List have been added to the mix for our next game. Unless I'm forgetting something. I'd play any of them.

[Fadeaway_J]

Yeah, I thought wacking 25 FGAs would help avoid this, but the normal top guys were all pretty much still drafted.

Maybe next time draft two forgotten stars and allow no other all-NBA?

This is why I ended up not playing. In fact, the whole idea of creating a banned list was specifically to ensure the "forgotten stars" would be foundation pieces and not just add-ons to a regular team.

All-NBA players is too broad a categorisation though. DeAndre Jordan (non All-Star) and Steph Curry (unanimous MVP) both made the first team in 2015-16. I still think a banned list is the way to go.

It was still an interesting game, but people did pack in more stars than I thought. I'd be down for a banned list. How extensive would it be? I mean, would it reach down to a Barkley/Malones/Ewing level? Are we talking about 10? 20? 30? More?

The idea I kicked around with Timmay would take in about 30 players. And yes, all those players you named would be banned.

[Fadeaway_J]

So we've got the 35% from three and random year based on the draft finishing strong in the last poll, while White Men Can't Jump and Banned List have been added to the mix for our next game. Unless I'm forgetting something. I'd play any of them.

I like Bde's one division idea as well - maybe 70s to now would provide enough star power at the top of the draft.

[BdeRegt]

Got this crazy idea: how about if we used MPG as the restrictive value? Everyone gets 240 minutes, you have to play the player as many minutes as they played in the selected season per game. Changes the player values a lot.

Example: my team in Forgotten Stars

PG: '96 Gary Payton 39.0MPG
SG: '77 Pete Maravich 41.7MPG
SF: '16 Jared Dudley 25.9MPG
PF: '92 Horace Grant 35.3MPG
C: '76 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 41.2MPG

G: '13 Thabo Sefolosha 27.5MPG
F: '17 Joe Ingles 24.0MPG
C: '16 Bismack Biyombo 22.0MPG

257.6/240

Now, this team is over the limit, but you get the point about how it could work. This would be a great way to have drafts that we can draft more than 8 guys. If we have MPG to spend, we can use them for a 9th or 10th man if we want.

I really like this idea. I think going away from FGA as limiting criteria is the best way to change player value. This format will lead to more offensive minded teams I would assume as defensive stoppers become expensive. For instance, Tyson Chandler won't really be considered in a center pool. I'd vote to do it 90s to present as well since all the stars will be available.

[ChicagoSportsFan21]

Trying to think of new innovative and creative ideas is tough , here are some that I came up with pretty quickly but not sure if there is enough depth/interest for it...

1) left handed shooters only
2) nba coaches who played before
3) futures draft-voting based on 5-10 years from now
4) pick a player from each division/conference or something along those lines