Pacific Division Draft - R1 - Fadeaway vs Timmaytime

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Pacific Division Draft - R1 - Fadeaway vs Timmaytime 

Post#1 » by BdeRegt » Fri Aug 18, 2017 9:36 pm

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Re: Pacific Division Draft - R1 - Fadeaway vs Timmaytime 

Post#2 » by Fadeaway_J » Sat Aug 19, 2017 2:05 am

Starters
C - Sam Lacey (1974-75)
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11.5 ppg, 14.2 rpg, 5.3 apg, 1.7 spg, 2.1 bpg, .427 FG%, .754 FT%, .464 TS%, 15.3 PER
- Led the NBA in DRB% (28.3)
- NBA All-Star

PF - Charles Barkley (1992-93)
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25.6 ppg, 12.2 rpg, 5.1 apg, 1.6 spg, 1.0 bpg, .520 FG%, .305 3P%, .765 FT%, .596 TS%, 25.9 PER
- NBA MVP
- NBA All-Star
- All-NBA First Team

SF - Jamaal Wilkes (1975-76)
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17.8 ppg, 8.8 rpg, 2.0 apg, 1.2 spg, 0.4 bpg, .463 FG%, .772 FT%, .499 TS%, 16.8 PER
- NBA All-Star
- All-Defensive Second Team

SG - Mitch Richmond (1995-96)
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23.1 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 3.1 apg, 1.5 spg, 0.2 bpg, .447 FG%, .437 3P%, .866 FT%, 229 3P, .591 TS%, 19.2 PER
- NBA All-Star
- All-NBA Third Team

PG - Baron Davis (2006-07)
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20.1 ppg, 4.4 rpg, 8.1 apg, 2.1 spg, 0.5 bpg, .439 FG%, .304 3P%, .745 FT%, 85 3P, .530 TS%, 21.0 PER
- Led the NBA in spg

Bench
C - Andrew Bogut (2015-16)
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5.4 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 2.3 apg, 0.5 spg, 1.6 bpg, .627 FG%, .480 FT%, .623 TS%, 15.9 PER

F - Luc Mbah a Moute (2016-17)
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6.1 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 0.5 apg, 1.0 spg, 0.4 bpg, .505 FG%, .391 3P%, .678 FT%, .581 TS%, 10.2 PER

G - Steve Blake
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7.3 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 3.8 apg, 0.8 spg, 0.1 bpg, .422 FG%, .421 3P%, .771 FT%, 72 3P, .573 TS%, 11.7 PER

Rotations
C - Lacey (32), Bogut (16)
PF - Barkley (40), Mbah a Moute (8)
SF - Wilkes (34), Mbah a Moute (14)
SG - Richmond (38), Blake (10)
PG - Davis (40), Blake (8)

Strategy
Our top priority will be to push the ball and create good looks in transition. We've got elite rebounding across the frontcourt, and all our starters averaging between 1.2 and 2.1 spg, we should be able to generate plenty of opportunities either by completing our defense with a board or by forcing turnovers. With Davis at the controls and Sir Charles doing his runaway freight train impression, this team will be tough to stop on the break, especially with Wilkes and Richmond also being very comfortable in an uptempo system. When the game slows down we will rely Chuck's versatile and efficient offensive game, which we don't think Lucas or Diaw are really equipped to handle, and our explosive perimeter trio provides ample support for the MVP. Lacey will help to grease the wheels with his tremendous passing, as will Bogut to a lesser extent off the bench.

Defensively, we're going to play it pretty much straight up with Wilkes guarding Magic, and hopefully using his length and quickness to bother him a bit. We'll also stagger the minutes to ensure that our ace wing defender Mbah a Moute gets as much time on Magic as possible. We believe we have a solid overall defensive framework with Chuck being backed up by excellent rim protection from our center tag team of Lacey and Bogut.

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Re: Pacific Division Draft - R1 - Fadeaway vs Timmaytime 

Post#3 » by Timmaytime » Sat Aug 19, 2017 1:51 pm

'79 Robert Parish - 14.6 - 17/12/1.5, 2.9 BPG, 53% TS
'14 Goran Dragic - 14.4 - 20/3/6, 60% TS, 41% from 3
'98 Eddie Jones - 12.6 - 17/4/3, 59% TS, 39% from 3, 2nd team All-Defense
'85 Magic Johnson - 11.7 - 18/6/12.5, 64% TS, 1st team All-NBA
'64 Jerry Lucas - 11.2 - 18/17.5/2.5, 58% TS (led league), ROY, 2nd team All-NBA
'06 Boris Diaw - 10.5 - 13/7/6, 56% TS
'79 Kermit Washington - 7.6 - 11/10/1.5, 1.5 BPG, 60% TS
'81 Brian Taylor - 7.4 - 10/2/5.5, 60% TS, 38% from 3

Total: 90/90

Goran Dragic (20) / Magic Johnson (18) / Brian Taylor (10)
Eddie Jones (20) / Goran Dragic (15) / Brian Taylor (13)
Magic Johnson (20) / Eddie Jones (15) / Boris Diaw (13)
Jerry Lucas (18) / Boris Diaw (15) / Kermit Washington (15)
Robert Parish (28) / Jerry Lucas (20)

First off, we have good defenders to throw on Richmond and Barkley in EJ, Lucas and Kermit. If we can stifle Fade's top two scorers in any way we should have a huge advantage. We'll also be able to help off of whoever is playing at center with Parish or Lucas, who are both excellent help defenders. This will help with Barkley and also on Baron Davis drives

Goran, EJ and Magic fit like a glove offensively, and are hard to stop. Magic can run the show, while EJ and Dragic move off the ball, or Dragic can run the show, or Diaw, or Taylor. We have endless playmaking on this team (combined in their seasons they averaged 39 assists per game)

Lucas, EJ and Dragic are all good enough offensive players to take advantage of bad defenders, and with 18 minutes of Magic at point guard, either somebody is getting destroyed or somebody is guarding up. We'll happily take either one.

Fade has a nice starting lineup, but we think we have the matchup advantages, the playmaking and the depth to win this one
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Re: Pacific Division Draft - R1 - Fadeaway vs Timmaytime 

Post#4 » by BdeRegt » Sat Aug 19, 2017 3:55 pm

First, Timmay's rotatin confused me as feel like it is over complicated with people sharing the floor but as different spots. Doesn't affect my vote but not sure who to vote for and just going through my thoughts. I think Timmay has a very good offense with good spacing/balance. Davis/Richmond/Barkley should provide Fade with a lot of firepower as well. I think Fade is a little better set to defend Timmay than the other way around for this one.

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Re: Pacific Division Draft - R1 - Fadeaway vs Timmaytime 

Post#5 » by 8on » Sat Aug 19, 2017 4:30 pm

Fade has even better playmaking than Timmay. I also think Barkley is going to go town against Lucas, and Wilkes should have some impact on Magic. Overall, I like Fade's offense and defense more than Timmay's.

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Post#6 » by Statlanta » Sat Aug 19, 2017 5:06 pm

Vote: Fade
I think his supporting cast is better
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Re: Pacific Division Draft - R1 - Fadeaway vs Timmaytime 

Post#7 » by ChicagoSportsFan21 » Sat Aug 19, 2017 5:48 pm

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Reasoning: This is a close match-up which I feel like will be an offensive shoot-out. Fade built a nice team around Barkley that fits well. On the other side, TT build a solid team around MJ that fits well too. Hmm..who is going to be more successful offensively as #1 option..Barkley against Lucas/Kermit or MJ against Wilkes/Mbah a Moute..I'm going to have to go with Barkley and company in a tight series.
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Re: Pacific Division Draft - R1 - Fadeaway vs Timmaytime 

Post#8 » by Timmaytime » Sat Aug 19, 2017 5:52 pm

wow

well played, fade
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Re: Pacific Division Draft - R1 - Fadeaway vs Timmaytime 

Post#9 » by poopdamoop » Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:14 pm

This is surprising. Fade has a solid team, but Timmay has a pretty incredible range of options. I think taking early Magic was a bit of a mistake though, and could have benefitted from a later version of him while sacrificing some FGA on the bench, but you would likely have gotten my vote regardless
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Re: Pacific Division Draft - R1 - Fadeaway vs Timmaytime 

Post#10 » by pelifan » Tue Aug 22, 2017 12:14 am

Yea what the hell is this to be honest.
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Re: Pacific Division Draft - R1 - Fadeaway vs Timmaytime 

Post#11 » by BdeRegt » Tue Aug 22, 2017 12:19 am

pelifan wrote:Yea what the hell is this to be honest.


A sweep with Fade advancing. To me, it came down to Fadeaway having the 3 best scorers and better defensive match ups. Magic is great but wasn't enough for me in this one and seems like for a lot of other people as well.

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