The Bridesmaids Draft SF2 - Dr Positivity* vs ChicagoSportsFan21

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Here is a quick list of what you need in your writeup.

1. Specific years for each player on your team
2. Rotations and minutes for each player
3. Reasoning as to why your team will win and/or why people should vote for you.

Do not vote in this thread until both managers have submitted their writeups.

If writeups aren't posted within 24 hours, we will vote solely based on the players they have drafted (and any rotations they have posted on roster page).

**First to 4 votes advances**

[Dr Positivity]

PG: Kyle Lowry (2017: 15.3 FGA) All-star, .216 WS/48, 6.6 BPM, 22.4 pts, 7.0 ast, 4.8 reb, 1.5 stl, .623 TS%, 41.2% 3pt
SG: Doug Christie (2003: 7.0 FGA) 1st team All-Defense, .157 WS/48, 4.2 BPM, 9.4 pts, 4.7 ast, 4.3 reb, 2.3 stl, .590 TS%, 39.5% 3pt
SF: Bernard King (1984: 18.1 FGA) 2nd in MVP, 1st team All-NBA, All-star, .218 WS/48, 3.6 BPM, 26.3 pts, 5.1 reb, 2.1 ast, 1.0 stl, .619 TS%
PF: Kevin Garnett (2005: 16.6 FGA) 11th in MVP, 2nd team All-NBA, All-star, 1st team All-Defense, .248 WS/48, 9.7 BPM (leads league), 22.2 pts, 13.5 reb (leads league), 5.7 ast, 1.5 stl, 1.4 blk, .567 TS%
C: Andrew Bogut (2010: 13.2 FGA) 3rd team All-NBA, .161 WS/48, 3.4 BPM, 15.9 pts, 10.2 pts, 2.5 blk, .540 TS%

PG: Pablo Prigioni (2014: 2.9 FGA) .127 WS/48, 0.6 BPM, 3.8 pts, 3.5 ast, 2.0 reb, 1.0 stl (7.1 pts, 6.4 ast, 3.6 reb, 1.9 stl per 36), .642 TS%, 46.4% 3pt
SF: Joe Ingles (2017: 5.5 FGA) .123 WS/48, 2.7 BPM, 7.1 pts, 3.2 reb, 2.7 ast (10.6 pts, 4.8 reb, 4.1 ast, 1.8 stl per 36), .604 TS%, 44.1% 3pt
PF: Reggie Evans (2012: 1.3 FGA) .079 WS/48, -2.2 BPM, 1.9 pts, 4.8 reb (4.9 pts, 12.7 reb per 36)

Total FGA: 79.8 / 80

Rotation:

Kyle Lowry (40) / Pablo Prigioni (8)
Doug Christie (40) / Joe Ingles (8)
Bernard King (40) / Joe Ingles (8)
Kevin Garnett (28) / Reggie Evans (8) / Joe Ingles (12)
Andrew Bogut (36) / Kevin Garnett (12)

Good luck CSF!

- Both teams are good on offense but we have the stronger defense as while the perimeter D is almost the same, in the frontcourt we have the dominant anchor in Garnett paired with elite defensive center in Bogut - better at both positions on D than Malone and Divac. Offensively this is peak 16ppg Bogut, so if he's giving up some offense to Divac, it's not by as big a margin as later versions. With Christie on English and Garnett on Malone we are in good position to guard his best players.

- I prefer King's peak to English. 26ppg .62 TS%, 2nd in MVP, relied less on transition play (99 pace for the Knicks in 84, 109.8 for the Nuggets in 82), went crazy in the playoffs, reputation is slightly better on D I believe.

- Offensively 2017 Lowry also has a clear advantage over the cheaper 2013 version of Conley, and can serve as a legitimate 3rd option

- Neither bench is the best but I believe I have the edge, note that CSF is using 2017 Terry. I feel Ingles is the most useful bench player on either team and advanced stats back that up.

Overall I feel my team has the better defense and with Lowry and King's advantages at their position and Ingles off the bench, the better offense

[ChicagoSportsFan21]

Starting Five:

PG: Mike Conley-Memphis Grizzlies-2012/13: 14.6 PTS/6.1 AST/2.2 STL/36.2% 3PT

-NBA All-Defensive Second Team

SG: Andre Iguodala-Denver Nuggets-2012/13: 13.0 PTS/5.3 REB/5.4 AST/1.7 STL

SF: Alex English-Denver Nuggets-1981/82: 25.4 PTS/6.8 REB/5.3 AST/1.1 STL/1.5 BLK

-NBA All-Star, All-NBA Second Team

PF: Karl Malone-Utah Jazz-1996/97: 27.4 PTS/9.9 REB/4.5 AST/1.4 STL/60.0% TS/28.9 PER/8.5 BPM

-NBA Most Valuable Player, NBA All-Star, All-NBA First Team, NBA All-Defensive First Team

C: Vlade Divac-Sacramento Kings-2000/01: 12.0 PTS/8.3 REB/2.9 AST/1.1 STL/1.1 BLK

-NBA All-Star

Bench:

G: Jason Terry-Milwaukee Bucks-2016/17: 42.7% 3PT/60.0% TS

F: Luc Mbah a Moute-Los Angeles Clippers-2015/16: 1.3 DWS/1.5 DPM

C: Greg Ostertag-Utah Jazz-1999/00: 2.1 BLK/8.2% BLK/6.0 REB

Rotation/Depth Chart:

PG: Mike Conley (40)/Jason Terry (8)
SG: Andre Iguodala (40)/Jason Terry (8)
SF: Alex English (40)/Luc Mbah a Moute (8)
PF: Karl Malone (40)/Luc Mbah a Moute (8)
C: Vlade Divac (36)/Greg Ostertag (12)

FGA:

Mike Conley-Memphis Grizzlies-2012/13: 11.8 FGA
Andre Iguodala-Denver Nuggets-2012/13: 11.0 FGA
Alex English-Denver Nuggets-1981/82: 18.9 FGA
Karl Malone-Utah Jazz-1996/97: 19.2 FGA
Vlade Divac-Sacramento Kings-2000/01: 9.3 FGA
Jason Terry-Milwaukee Bucks-2016/17: 3.3 FGA
Luc Mbah a Moute-Los Angeles Clippers-2015/16: 2.8 FGA
Greg Ostertag-Utah Jazz-1999/00: 3.3 FGA

Total FGA: 79.6/80

Write-Up:

Team Concept:

My team is built around gritty tough minded players with high IQ and elite playmaking skills. Offensively, my team will be led by my 1-2 punch of Karl Malone and Alex English who both scored 25 PPG+ in their respective season. There will be a lot of pick and roll and pick and pop action with Conley/Malone as well as Conley/Divac with the slashing of English/Iggy is going to be tough to stop for any team. The ability of my bigs to draw out opponent bigs away from the rim with their mid-range shooting will be big and help English/Iggy slash to the rim as well. Jason Terry can provide a spark off the bench especially with his 3 point shooting and energy. Lot of playmakers on my team as well from top to bottom starting with Conley and it goes on to Iggy, Malone, Vlade, and even English who averaged more than 5 assists per game in his season chosen.

Defensively, all my players are solid to great who none I considered to be a liability on that end. English may be considered my worst defender in the starting five who some may call a liability, but I disagree, he was competent. Regardless I have Luc Mbah a Moute backing him up to provide elite defense as well as Iggy there as well starting to take on an elite wing.

I really like the balance on my team in offense/defense...for example, Conley/Iggy provide great defense in the back-court with Terry bringing the offense from the bench in the back-court. English provides offense in the starting line-up while Luc Mbah a Moute brings his defense with his length. Vlade brings his offense in the starting line-up while Ostertag provides the defense from the bench with his rim protection of +2 blocks per game that season as well as leading the league in block percentage. I have solid balance from top to bottom.

I don't see any glaring weaknesses on my team that has a little bit of everything on offense from 3 point shooting and playmaking while on defense, I have scrappy defenders as well as rim protection. All in all, my team is going to be a handful on both sides of the ball.

Match-Up Specific:

This should be interesting..both similarly built teams and we drafted right next to each other with him having the second pick while I had the 3rd pick.

Offensively, there are going to be a lot of pick and roll and pick and pop action with Conley/Malone resulting in mismatches ala Lowry on Malone which is a huge disadvantage for him. Bogut is his rim protector and I'm going to get him away from the rim with Vlade's mid-range shooting which will also help Iggy/English slash to the rim easier. Granted his front-court defense is stout and slightly better (although Malone is no slouch-nba all defense first team and Divac avg +1/1 bpg/spg in his season), but luckily I have front-court players that don't need to post up in order to score regularly and be able to hit from the mid-range mitigating his rim protection. This is also Denver year Iggy so he will have more of an offensive role and should have a nice series against King too.

Defensively, match-up as follows Conley on Lowry, English on Christie, Iggy on King, Malone on KG, and Vlade on Bogut. I really like Iggy to do a great job on King with his defensive tenacity/pressure..remember this is peak athletically Iggy as well. I'm fine with English being on Christie who is his fifth scorer and not a major scoring threat. Conley should do a a great job on Lowry with his all nba defense. I think my team can do a good job defensively that nobody will go off as I believe I have the stronger perimeter defense with trio of Conley, Iggy, and English compared to Lowry, Christie, and King. I disagree with King being a better defender than English imo. English seemed like he tried/gave effort who I considered average atleast unlike King who didn't seem like he even gave effort. King does have the better peak, but I prefer English's overall impact to the team with his intangibles from defense, passing, work ethic and etc.. Moute should a do great job defensively on Ingles off the bench too.

What separates his team compared to mine is the better fit/flow imo. I feel like my team gels together a lot better with Conley running the show and from what I seen Alex English is a team-player who is unselfish that is willing to give the ball to somebody else and can score in a variety of ways from mid-range, slashing, and posting up. I have ton of playmakers on my team from top to bottom in Conley, Iggy, English, Malone, and Vlade who are unselfish and willing to pass the ball-team first mentality. I have concern of his flow/fit..from what I seen Bernard King is me first kind of guy and wants the ball and get out of the way..it kind of worries me about how offense will run and limit his best players touches in KG and other teammates. I think King can be a "cancer" to that team and limit their team's full potential.

We know Malone/Garnett are going to beat up on each other, it comes down to whose supporting cast you like/trust more. Overall, I feel like I will get the best of his players than he will compared to mine and make more of an impact. I think Conley will do more damage on Lowry than he will on Conley, Vlade on Bogut than Bogut on Vlade, Iggy more so than Christie will, and English more so than King will. I also prefer my defense overall especially my perimeter defense. I think my team has the better fit/flow which should lead me to the championship game.

Good luck Dr Positivity!

[Dr Positivity]

Looking for votes here

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[damecurry]

I prefer Dr. Ps star duo of King/KG over English/Malone and I like peak Bogut. Pretty similar backcourts and depth so Ill take

Dr. Positivity.

[pelifan]

miror image teams to some extent. Had these two 5th and 3rd in my rankings, but looking at tem closer they really are identical, so pulling teeth. Regardless I like the synergy of Lowry, King, KG offensively a little more than English Malone Conley and Igoudala. Neither team has great offense though, so low scoring games, but I think Bogut/KG will be a touch stingier around the rim.

vote: Dr Positiv

[8on]

For 12 minutes....either Evans or Ingles guards Malone or Divac. I'm not crazy about either bench, but I prefer CSF's and Malone to Dr P's and Garnett.

vote: CSF21

[wackbone]

Very close one here, but I like Dr. P’s team slightly more top to bottom. But it’s tough.

Vote: Dr. P


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Agree with pel that the teams are extremely similar in construction. Lowry to me is clearly a level above 2013 Conley, and Bogut backing up KG at the rim defensively is quite scary. Dr P's long-range shooting is also a notch better. In a close series those little advantages will be telling.

Vote: Dr Positivity

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Dr Positivity advances.

[Dr Positivity]

GG!

[GeorgeMarcus]

I had you guys #2 and #3 in my rankings. For me it's a question of whether KG's advantage over Malone outweighs CSF's bench advantage. In truth the gap between KG and Malone was almost negligible, but having elite secondary scorers to rely on places more emphasis on defensive impact. Malone was a very good defender; KG was a GOAT-level defender. As much as I love Terry as a 6th man, he or Conley will be forced to guard a bigger wing when they share the court together. Nit-picky, I know, but it diminishes his impact just enough for me to vote Dr. P by a hair.

Vote - Dr Positivity

[GeorgeMarcus]

Whoops, didn't see this was done with. Carry on.