The Bridesmaids Draft CHAMPIONSHIP - pelifan vs. Dr Positivity **pelifan wins the Championship**

Moderators: Snakebites, MadNESS, Fadeaway_J

Fadeaway_J
Forum Mod
Forum Mod
Posts: 25,619
And1: 6,789
Joined: Jul 25, 2016
Location: Kingston, Jamaica
   

The Bridesmaids Draft CHAMPIONSHIP - pelifan vs. Dr Positivity **pelifan wins the Championship** 

Post#1 » by Fadeaway_J » Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:45 am

Here is a quick list of what you need in your writeup.

1. Specific years for each player on your team
2. Rotations and minutes for each player
3. Reasoning as to why your team will win and/or why people should vote for you.

Do not vote in this thread until both managers have submitted their writeups.

If writeups aren't posted within 24 hours, we will vote solely based on the players they have drafted (and any rotations they have posted on roster page).

**First to 4 votes wins the championship**
User avatar
pelifan
RealGM
Posts: 14,237
And1: 21,691
Joined: Aug 12, 2014
Location: Small market
 

Re: The Bridesmaids Draft CHAMPIONSHIP - pelifan vs. Dr Positivity 

Post#2 » by pelifan » Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:26 am

ImageImageImage

PG: Kevin Johnson
SG: Dan Majerle
SF: Paul George
PF: Charles Oakley
C: Patrick Ewing

Bench
G: Danny Ainge
F: Jared Dudley
C: Cole Aldrich

PG: Johnson (40) / Ainge (8)
SG: Majerle (37) / Ainge (11)
SF: George (40) / Dudley (7) / Majerle (1)
PF Oakley (36) / Dudley (12)
C: Ewing (40) / Aldrich (8)

1990 Patrick Ewing 20.4 ALLNBA
2014 Paul George 17.0 ALLNBA
1989 Kevin Johnson 13.9 ALLNBA
1992 Charles Oakley 4.9
1995 Dan Majerle 12.6 Allstar
2009 Jared Dudley 4.2
1995 Danny Ainge 5.7
20014 Cole Aldrich 1.3

80/80

KJ and George should take the pressure off of Ewing more than King and Lowry will KG. I'm not sure King can move his feet well enough vs George, and switching that weakens big ticket's impact on the interior, or leaves King on Majerle another tough matchup. Gameplan is to cut off the piant and make Kyle "playoff decompress" Lowry win it from the outside.

Also didnt think i'd have a bench advantage in any matchup, but here we are.
Image
User avatar
Dr Positivity
RealGM
Posts: 59,840
And1: 15,534
Joined: Apr 29, 2009
       

Re: The Bridesmaids Draft CHAMPIONSHIP - pelifan vs. Dr Positivity 

Post#3 » by Dr Positivity » Tue Feb 20, 2018 4:44 am

PG: Kyle Lowry (2017: 15.3 FGA) All-star, .216 WS/48, 6.6 BPM, 22.4 pts, 7.0 ast, 4.8 reb, 1.5 stl, .623 TS%, 41.2% 3pt
SG: Doug Christie (2003: 7.0 FGA) 1st team All-Defense, .157 WS/48, 4.2 BPM, 9.4 pts, 4.7 ast, 4.3 reb, 2.3 stl, .590 TS%, 39.5% 3pt
SF: Bernard King (1984: 18.1 FGA) 2nd in MVP, 1st team All-NBA, All-star, .218 WS/48, 3.6 BPM, 26.3 pts, 5.1 reb, 2.1 ast, 1.0 stl, .619 TS%
PF: Kevin Garnett (2005: 16.6 FGA) 11th in MVP, 2nd team All-NBA, All-star, 1st team All-Defense, .248 WS/48, 9.7 BPM (leads league), 22.2 pts, 13.5 reb (leads league), 5.7 ast, 1.5 stl, 1.4 blk, .567 TS%
C: Andrew Bogut (2010: 13.2 FGA) 3rd team All-NBA, .161 WS/48, 3.4 BPM, 15.9 pts, 10.2 pts, 2.5 blk, .540 TS%

PG: Pablo Prigioni (2014: 2.9 FGA) .127 WS/48, 0.6 BPM, 3.8 pts, 3.5 ast, 2.0 reb, 1.0 stl (7.1 pts, 6.4 ast, 3.6 reb, 1.9 stl per 36), .642 TS%, 46.4% 3pt
SF: Joe Ingles (2017: 5.5 FGA) .123 WS/48, 2.7 BPM, 7.1 pts, 3.2 reb, 2.7 ast (10.6 pts, 4.8 reb, 4.1 ast, 1.8 stl per 36), .604 TS%, 44.1% 3pt
PF: Reggie Evans (2012: 1.3 FGA) .079 WS/48, -2.2 BPM, 1.9 pts, 4.8 reb (4.9 pts, 12.7 reb per 36)

Total FGA: 79.8 / 80

Rotation:

Kyle Lowry (40) / Pablo Prigioni (8)
Doug Christie (40) / Joe Ingles (8)
Bernard King (40) / Joe Ingles (8)
Kevin Garnett (36) / Joe Ingles (12)
Andrew Bogut (36) / Reggie Evans (8) / Kevin Garnett (4)

- We have the better frontcourt. Peak Bogut is the superior player to Oakley as a 16ppg player and a more complete defensive anchor. KG still has higher impact than peak Ewing does. We plan to take as much advantage as possible of Oakley starting, as that is peli's weakness. We are in a good position to, as with Bogut being the primary defender on Ewing, we can use KG's all time great help defense skills to help off Oakley to help put a 2nd guy on Ewing often. Compounding this is Ewing is a mediocre passer hence once of the reasons he's not as trustworthy as a batman, he could struggle creating plays out of the extra defensive attention.

- On the perimeter Bernard King is the best scorer at 26ppg .62 TS% (and best scorer in the series overall). Lowry having Johnson on him is one of the easier defensive matchups of the perimeter all-stars. We're going to use Christie on George here and King on Majerle, along with Lowry on Johnson.

- Ingles is the best bench player in my opinion. I have Ingles as a better player than any version of Dudley, and 2009 Dudley (his 2nd year) is not his best version. I'm not sold on 35 year old Danny Ainge any more than I am Prigioni.
wackbone
RealGM
Posts: 10,726
And1: 3,391
Joined: Jan 05, 2017

Re: The Bridesmaids Draft CHAMPIONSHIP - pelifan vs. Dr Positivity 

Post#4 » by wackbone » Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:11 am

Very similarly built teams here too. In an otherwise completely even matchup, I have to give the ever so slight edge to Dr. Positivity for having the much better second frontcourt option in Bogut vs Oakley. Whereas KG and Bogut can often double-team Ewing, Oakley and Ewing cannot do the same with KG, as Bogut is a good enough offensive playmaker to cause some damage. I think he would cause more damage than Oakley if/when both teams decide to double up on KG or Ewing.

Vote: Dr. Positivity
Image

BAF Celtics
PG: Russell Westbrook|x
SG: Desmond Bane|Mathurin
SF: Mikal Bridges|Mathurin
PF: John Collins|x
C: Chet Holmgren|x

Other: Roddy, Saric
damecurry
General Manager
Posts: 9,300
And1: 1,517
Joined: May 19, 2014
 

Re: The Bridesmaids Draft CHAMPIONSHIP - pelifan vs. Dr Positivity 

Post#5 » by damecurry » Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:18 am

Frontcourt advantage goes to Dr. P again but Peli had the backcourt edge. KJ is better than Lowry, Majerle better than Christie and I PG is the better two way wing, benches are about even. Peli just has the better all around group and I prefer their fit and balance slightly.

Vote Pelifan in a close one.
User avatar
8on
RealGM
Posts: 10,513
And1: 3,194
Joined: Nov 07, 2015
Location: Palookaville, ND
   

Re: The Bridesmaids Draft CHAMPIONSHIP - pelifan vs. Dr Positivity 

Post#6 » by 8on » Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:35 am

I don't think Dr P has a better offensive player than '90 Ewing, nor better overall scoring nor a better bench. Johnson/George/Ewing should do it.

vote: pelifan
Fadeaway_J
Forum Mod
Forum Mod
Posts: 25,619
And1: 6,789
Joined: Jul 25, 2016
Location: Kingston, Jamaica
   

Re: The Bridesmaids Draft CHAMPIONSHIP - pelifan vs. Dr Positivity 

Post#7 » by Fadeaway_J » Tue Feb 20, 2018 12:03 pm

I'm going to disagree with wack as I don't see KG as the calibre of scorer who needs to be doubled. King is a beast but PG will make him earn every point. Dr P has a valid point in that KG can disrupt Ewing somewhat by helping off Oakley, but pel has enough on the perimeter (particularly in the form of KJ who is a playoff monster) to get by.

Vote: pelifan
Fadeaway_J
Forum Mod
Forum Mod
Posts: 25,619
And1: 6,789
Joined: Jul 25, 2016
Location: Kingston, Jamaica
   

Re: The Bridesmaids Draft CHAMPIONSHIP - pelifan vs. Dr Positivity 

Post#8 » by Fadeaway_J » Tue Feb 20, 2018 3:50 pm

Blazers-1977 wrote:.

euroleague wrote:.

Jory04 wrote:.

MadNESS wrote:.

ChicagoSportsFan21 wrote:.

SuperDario wrote:.

Tony Snell wrote:.

Timmaytime wrote:.

Smash3 wrote:.
User avatar
Dr Positivity
RealGM
Posts: 59,840
And1: 15,534
Joined: Apr 29, 2009
       

Re: The Bridesmaids Draft CHAMPIONSHIP - pelifan vs. Dr Positivity 

Post#9 » by Dr Positivity » Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:26 pm

Need someone to finish me off
euroleague
General Manager
Posts: 8,444
And1: 1,869
Joined: Mar 26, 2014
 

Re: The Bridesmaids Draft CHAMPIONSHIP - pelifan vs. Dr Positivity 

Post#10 » by euroleague » Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:14 pm

I think the mpg are way too heavy on Andrew Bogut, who only played 32mpg that season and is very injury prone. I also think Lowry will tire out, as he is prone to. I think everyone is playing way too many mpg, except KG.

This will be a war of attrition because both teams will get so tired.

Vote DrP
User avatar
pelifan
RealGM
Posts: 14,237
And1: 21,691
Joined: Aug 12, 2014
Location: Small market
 

Re: The Bridesmaids Draft CHAMPIONSHIP - pelifan vs. Dr Positivity 

Post#11 » by pelifan » Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:26 pm

euroleague wrote:I think the mpg are way too heavy on Andrew Bogut, who only played 32mpg that season and is very injury prone. I also think Lowry will tire out, as he is prone to. I think everyone is playing way too many mpg, except KG.

This will be a war of attrition because both teams will get so tired.

Vote DrP


Playoff minutes are different from regular season minutes. Certain players do play about 40 minutes in the playoffs. George, KJ, Ewing all played 40 minutes or more in the playoffs per game in the chosen season. I'm sure the same is true of KG King and Lowry
Image
User avatar
GeorgeMarcus
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 17,939
And1: 23,049
Joined: Jun 17, 2006
     

Re: The Bridesmaids Draft CHAMPIONSHIP - pelifan vs. Dr Positivity 

Post#12 » by GeorgeMarcus » Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:44 pm

These teams were 1 & 2 in my rankings, so I feel validated :) Fit is good for both, but pel has a very slight talent advantage in the SL with a better bench to boot.

Vote - pelifan
The Legend of George Marcus

"Where I'm from, bullies get bullied." - Zach Randolph
User avatar
Dr Positivity
RealGM
Posts: 59,840
And1: 15,534
Joined: Apr 29, 2009
       

Re: The Bridesmaids Draft CHAMPIONSHIP - pelifan vs. Dr Positivity 

Post#13 » by Dr Positivity » Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:45 pm

GG
Fadeaway_J
Forum Mod
Forum Mod
Posts: 25,619
And1: 6,789
Joined: Jul 25, 2016
Location: Kingston, Jamaica
   

Re: The Bridesmaids Draft CHAMPIONSHIP - pelifan vs. Dr Positivity **pelifan wins the Championship** 

Post#14 » by Fadeaway_J » Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:15 pm

Congrats pel. I will post the full rankings when I get home in a couple of hours. Spoiler alert: this result isn't exactly an upset. :lol:
euroleague
General Manager
Posts: 8,444
And1: 1,869
Joined: Mar 26, 2014
 

Re: The Bridesmaids Draft CHAMPIONSHIP - pelifan vs. Dr Positivity 

Post#15 » by euroleague » Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:18 am

pelifan wrote:
euroleague wrote:I think the mpg are way too heavy on Andrew Bogut, who only played 32mpg that season and is very injury prone. I also think Lowry will tire out, as he is prone to. I think everyone is playing way too many mpg, except KG.

This will be a war of attrition because both teams will get so tired.

Vote DrP


Playoff minutes are different from regular season minutes. Certain players do play about 40 minutes in the playoffs. George, KJ, Ewing all played 40 minutes or more in the playoffs per game in the chosen season. I'm sure the same is true of KG King and Lowry

Lowry always gets exhausted and fails late in the playoffs.

KG didn't make the playoffs in 05, and King played only 6 games.

Return to Trades and Transactions Games