Mock Off-Season 2018: Rules & Regulations

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Mock Off-Season 2018: Rules & Regulations 

Post#1 » by Mich3006 » Wed May 9, 2018 7:57 am

So, let´s start this year´s mock off-season.
It seems commissioner Sportscrazy stepped down ( :cry: ), so we´ll share the commish duties.

I´d take on the organization stuff (participants, dates, coaching changes ...), we need three more guys who are willing to take on...
1) the Draft (Commissioner Super Powered)
2) the Free Agency (Commissioner Warriorfan)
3) the Trades (Commissioner aramada)


FYI: If some commissioner´s decisions are weird or really unrealistic, the other commissioners could step in.

All other Rules & Regulations will be copied and updated from last season.
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FYI: Please "And 1" this post if you accept the rules & regulations and you´re 100% sure that you´re willing to invest the needed time to run the franchise (it´ll will take some hours over a few weeks).
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You can find the participation list (and open spots) here: https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=340&t=1704725
It would be very VERY good, if at least one mod participates as well.
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The objective is to keep it as realistic as possible based on your teams actual direction and goals, not to make any unrealistic trades that could affect team chemistry. The goal you want to achieve is to do what each team will do in real life as close as possible rather than assemble the best possible roster of random players.

We will use Smitty's salary cap spread sheet to let you know how much cap space you have based on salaries, draft picks, cap holds, etc: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1441629

NYG found a very good calculator for your teams salary: http://www.shamsports.com/capulator

There will be one thread for each day and milestone that gives viewers a front stage seat to the behind the scenes that take place in terms of trades and free agency negotiations with my role being the agent for every player.

You will negotiate trades in this thread with other GM's. Once it is completed and agreed to by both sides, each side needs to send a PM to the responsible commissioner to let him know that they agreed and he will include it in my nightly re-cap of the days transactions.

The point of this is to accurately reflect based on your teams ownership style, player fit in your coaches style, team direction (tanking, going for it all, just trying to make the playoffs, keep flexibility open for next off-season, etc.) and other factors based on a realistic and consistent vision you have for your teams off-season. This is not to finish with the best 15 man roster you can create because keep in mind chemistry is an issue as well. This is to finish with the best possible outcome for your team and its fans both in the short-term and long-term of the franchise's best interests. Trading all of your young players for win now players may not be the best, tying up your long term salary options may not be the best. You will not be assessed on how good your team is at the end of this, but more so how well you maintained that teams goals in terms of youth development, cap flexibility, and other factors that may be important to your team.



Trades
You can post trade offers in each day's thread as well as who is on the trade block and receive offers. Negotiations can take place and another GM can jump in at any time as a third or fourth team to make it work, or just kick you out of the deal altogether if they have a better offer. Once it is agreed to by both sides, it isn't finalized until trade commissioner armada receive a PM from both sides showing the same deal.

Obviously, we should not expect the volume of transactions to be similar to real life off seasons – this is a game, volume will be higher – but the following guidelines are meant to not repeat some of last year’s excesses:
- Like in any T&T thread, each trade should clearly state in the trade thread the benefit to each participating team
- To keep things realistic and simple, no more than 4 teams can be involved in a trade
- Sign and Trades: those should be done in a reasonable fashion. Since it involves a Free Agency component, S&Ts will not be allowed until Free Agency starts. The FA commissioner should approve the player signing to play in the team he is traded to. Multiple S&Ts trades will most likely be vetoed
- Trading a player more than once will not be allowed, unless participants show very convincing arguments – this doesn’t apply to draft picks
- Adding another leg to an already confirmed trade will not be allowed

Just to be clear and reiterate, trades should be negotiated on the thread.
There are pros and cons to both approaches, but in the end, I think it is more beneficial to everyone if conversations are in the public thread. Now if minor details need to be hammered out by PM to avoid unnecessary back and forth, I'm fine with this especially if it's only two teams negotiating, but the framework needs to be in the thread.



Free Agents
Free agency negotiations will take place throughout each days threads. You will make a financial offer based on your actual cap space or cap space you could create or have created via trade as well as a sales pitch as to why that free agent should take your offer over another team's offer. Not every free agent will take an offer they are given on the day they receive it so you can retract any offer until the close of the day when it will either be accepted or not. The reason strategy is placed on this is because for example, the Celtics could go all in on a Gordon Hayward pursuit, but Hayward may not make his decision until the close out of Day 2 while Blake Griffin and other free agents may make his decision at the close out of Day 1. Some one could pick up lesser free agents on Day 1 as the better free agents are pursued by other teams.

We will take reality into account, for example Dirk Nowitzki may agree to take less money if Dallas gets certain players around him or may wait to take an offer elsewhere until Dallas makes or does not make certain moves. Some players may be more loyal to their franchise than others and give this grace to their team.

In regards to restricted free agents, when they accept a deal at the close out of one day, the original team of that player has until the end of the close out of the next day to match that offer. If it isn't matched by then, he will take the offer and leave your team.

As a side note, as the agent, the responsible commissioner will control player opt outs that are still up for grabs, No Trade Clauses, retirements, etc. on top of free agent signing decisions. I will also chime in throughout the thread in specific situations, for example the Heat want Paul Millsap, but will not clear the cap space it takes for his MAX salary without a commitment from him. The responsible commissioner will chime in here and there with trade requests, free agent preferences, etc.

The reason I think free agent negotiations and trade negotiations should be in the thread is first and foremost for the entertainment value of viewers that are just keeping an eye on the thread, but not participating themselves. I also think see other teams offers will create bidding wars that will reflect the final realistic salaries we will see this off-season with the raised cap as well as keep trade value honest. If you say Player X is worth this much, then the other team could say, but no one else offered that much, take another teams offer if you think it's better than mine.



Draft
The NBA Draft will be one continuous thread where each team is on the clock once the previous team makes their selection. Trade negotiations will take place in this thread throughout the draft and all 60 picks will be made in this thread. Once the 60th pick is in, we will start free agency the day after.

We have to discuss how we handle the draft in a solid amount of time (last year, it took more than 4 days, way too long). The draft commissioner will find a good solution for it though :wink:

We will be adding the NBA Draft, team options/non-guaranteed contracts and coaching firing/hiring to this year's version. We will start the coaching hires and fires as well as a short summary of your franchise´s goals once all spots are filled.


Schedule
This is the schedule I was thinking (leaning on last year´s mock off-season):

Tuesday, May 15th - Begin hiring/firing coaches if you felt it was warranted as well as deciding on team options/non-guaranteed contracts

Tuesday, May 15th - A short explanation for your franchise´s goals in this mock off-season (remember, it should be realisitc)

Friday, May 18th - Simulate the remaining playoff results on predictionmachine.com

Sunday, May 20th - Begin NBA Draft (8PM EST)

Day After Draft Completion (Goal: Wednesday, May 23rd) - Start Day 1 out of 5 for free agency and go the next 5 days until the end of free agency

Days After Day 5 of Free Agency - Opening night roster submission
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TheNetsFan wrote:.

TheBrooklynKidd wrote:.

Chalm Down wrote:.

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MartinsIzAfraud wrote:.

Warriorfan wrote:.

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jdm3 wrote:.

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Re: Mock Off-Season 2018: Rules & Regulations 

Post#2 » by NYG » Wed May 9, 2018 9:12 am

http://www.shamsports.com/capulator

This and the trade checker will be every one’s best friend.
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Re: Mock Off-Season 2018: Rules & Regulations 

Post#3 » by jredsaz » Wed May 9, 2018 1:57 pm

If we are waiting until the 18th to start we should use the actual lottery results.
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Re: Mock Off-Season 2018: Rules & Regulations 

Post#4 » by aramada » Wed May 9, 2018 2:02 pm

Happy to help with the Trades if needed. The way I see the role:
- Establishing rules and guidelines around trades
- Managing trades threads
- Checking trades vs. CBA
- Keeping track of trades
- Occasionally vetoing a trade based on guidelines (decision should include at least one other commish)

Also, Ayatollah, the actual Draft is next Tuesday (May 15), so we can go by the real draft if we choose to.
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Post#5 » by Warriorfan » Wed May 9, 2018 2:18 pm

I can help with Free Agency.

We list players 3 important factors in decision.
We can write proposals. Have an agent who is another player pick top 2 and do a poll.


I have some ideas for the draft.
We set exact appointment times.
30 miniute blocks draft done in 1 day.
You can send a list if you cant make it.
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Re: Mock Off-Season 2018: Rules & Regulations 

Post#6 » by Lou Fan » Mon May 14, 2018 9:14 pm

When do we start?
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Re: Mock Off-Season 2018: Rules & Regulations 

Post#7 » by Mich3006 » Mon May 14, 2018 9:19 pm

twolves97 wrote:When do we start?

We need three more GM‘s but I‘d say we can start wie our team goals and coaching changes tomorrow.
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Re: Mock Off-Season 2018: Rules & Regulations 

Post#8 » by Mich3006 » Tue May 15, 2018 2:15 pm

Trade guideline was updated by trade commissioner armada (you can find it in the OP "Trade")

twolves97 wrote:.

TheHartBreakKid wrote:.

Derrick Noah wrote:.

wackbone wrote:.

Dr_Heat wrote:.

Chalm Down wrote:.

aramada wrote:.

Ayatollah wrote:.

MartinsIzAfraud wrote:.

Warriorfan wrote:.

Bucketgetter wrote:.

jdm3 wrote:.

SD2042 wrote:.

Spens1 wrote:.

Super Powered wrote:.

BullyKing wrote:.

Soulyss wrote:.

kalenclayton wrote:.

jredsaz wrote:.

LuessiT wrote:.

SK21209 wrote:.

dantley4prez wrote:.

Dr Positivity wrote:.

NYG wrote:.

bigmean wrote:.

Dn4sty wrote:.

Ballerhogger wrote:.

Chino Athens wrote:.

dipodenis wrote:.

BuzzCity wrote:.
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Re: Mock Off-Season 2018: Rules & Regulations 

Post#9 » by Warriorfan » Tue May 15, 2018 2:37 pm

We should do a confirmation thread that people understand the rules, are ready to start.

We should open trading so people can target who they want to draft especially rebuild teams.

In GMAT we set appointed times for picks.
Lists can be sent in if you cant make time.

Free Agency can get convuluted in daily threads.

Top guys need agents.
Middle guys most money
Open bid 1st come for min guys.
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Re: Mock Off-Season 2018: Rules & Regulations 

Post#10 » by Mich3006 » Tue May 15, 2018 3:02 pm

Warriorfan wrote:We should do a confirmation thread that people understand the rules, are ready to start.

Every participant should "And1" the OP to confirm.

Warriorfan wrote:We should open trading so people can target who they want to draft especially rebuild teams.

We already opened the preliminary trade discussion thread to negotiate.

In the draft thread, Draft-day deals can be accepted but any deal can´t be finalized until the beginning of Free Agency.

Warriorfan wrote:In GMAT we set appointed times for picks. Lists can be sent in if you cant make time.

That´s a good idea and I think the Draft-commissioner will do it like that.

Warriorfan wrote:Free Agency can get convuluted in daily threads.
Top guys need agents.
Middle guys most money
Open bid 1st come for min guys.

We will open up daily threads but we did it without agents and stuff last year. You can offer the contract to players, and the Free Agency-commissioner decides at the right time where the specific player will sign.

If you as the FA-commissioner, would like to play it a little bit different (the FA), please let us know. We will post the FA-guideline in the OP of any FA-thread.
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Post#11 » by Zion Wembanyama » Tue May 15, 2018 6:35 pm

Draft Rules

- We'll be using Nbadraft.net as the source for mock draft rankings.
- First round draft selections will have 15 mins to make a pick. Second round selections will have 10 minutes.
- If you do not make your pick, you will be auto-picked the top ranked available player.
- You cannot change picks during the draft, even if the drafter behind you doesn't want a player you'd like.
- After the draft, if there's a player available you rather have, you may swap your players at that time.
- Send lists (top 10) to me at alternativeescape@yandex.com, even if you think you'll be around to pick (things come up.)
NBA - Pelicans,Hornets
NFL - Panthers
MLB - Braves
NHL - Ducks, Hurricanes
NCAAB - Tarheels, Wolverines, CHA 49ers
NCAAF - Tarheels, Wolverines, CHA 49ers
Soccer - PSG, CLT FC, USMNT, FRA, SCO
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Tennis - Rafael Nadal
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Post#12 » by 8on » Tue May 15, 2018 8:50 pm

Are we using 2017-18 salaries or 2018-19 salaries?
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Post#13 » by kalenclayton » Tue May 15, 2018 8:52 pm

dantley4prez wrote:Are we using 2017-18 salaries or 2018-19 salaries?

18-19. This is the 2018-19 season that we are mocking.
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Re: Mock Off-Season 2018: Rules & Regulations 

Post#14 » by TheBrooklynKidd » Tue May 15, 2018 8:58 pm

Ayatollah wrote:.


Quick question, is the extend, waive and stretch an option in this mock?

For example, the Brooklyn Nets extend Timofey Mozgov for the minimum for 3 extra years on his deal but only 1 million guaranteed each year. This would take his current deal from 2/$32 to 5/35. This would allow the Nets to stretch his contract over 11 years for $3.18 each year as opposed to 5 years at $6.4. It would also be beneficial for Mozgov since he will get an extra $3 million.

Would this be acceptable?
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Re: Mock Off-Season 2018: Rules & Regulations 

Post#15 » by aramada » Tue May 15, 2018 11:05 pm

TheBrooklynKidd wrote:
Ayatollah wrote:.


Quick question, is the extend, waive and stretch an option in this mock?

For example, the Brooklyn Nets extend Timofey Mozgov for the minimum for 3 extra years on his deal but only 1 million guaranteed each year. This would take his current deal from 2/$32 to 5/35. This would allow the Nets to stretch his contract over 11 years for $3.18 each year as opposed to 5 years at $6.4. It would also be beneficial for Mozgov since he will get an extra $3 million.

Would this be acceptable?


You can do that post draft, in the free agency phase (like in real life)
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Re: Mock Off-Season 2018: Rules & Regulations 

Post#16 » by Mich3006 » Wed May 16, 2018 8:22 am

Info from NYG (tafka Sportscrazy) regarding any quotes:
Just a heads up that one of the issues I experienced last year was reply laziness on behalf of the participants. You should note that when replying to anything to remove quoting a poster that isn’t directly involved in what the proposal is.


So please take the time and quote only that person you would like to reply.

twolves97 wrote:.

TheHartBreakKid wrote:.

Derrick Noah wrote:.

wackbone wrote:.

TheNetsFan wrote:.

TheBrooklynKidd wrote:.

Chalm Down wrote:.

aramada wrote:.

Ayatollah wrote:.

MartinsIzAfraud wrote:.

Warriorfan wrote:.

Bucketgetter wrote:.

jdm3 wrote:.

SD2042 wrote:.

Spens1 wrote:.

Super Powered wrote:.

BullyKing wrote:.

Soulyss wrote:.

kalenclayton wrote:.

jredsaz wrote:.

LuessiT wrote:.

SK21209 wrote:.

dantley4prez wrote:.

Dr Positivity wrote:.

NYG wrote:.

bigmean wrote:.

Dn4sty wrote:.

Ballerhogger wrote:.

Chino Athens wrote:.

dipodenis wrote:.

BuzzCity wrote:.

Blazer50 wrote:.
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Re: Mock Off-Season 2018: Rules & Regulations 

Post#17 » by Mich3006 » Wed May 16, 2018 8:23 am

Super Powered wrote:Draft Rules

- We'll be using Nbadraft.net as the source for mock draft rankings.
- First round draft selections will have 15 mins to make a pick. Second round selections will have 10 minutes.
- If you do not make your pick, you will be auto-picked the top ranked available player.
- You cannot change picks during the draft, even if the drafter behind you doesn't want a player you'd like.
- After the draft, if there's a player available you rather have, you may swap your players at that time.
- Send lists (top 10) to me at alternativeescape@yandex.com, even if you think you'll be around to pick (things come up.)

Now we can use the current draft order.
I will post your rules in the official Draft thread, which will be opened tomorrow.


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Re: Mock Off-Season 2018: Rules & Regulations 

Post#18 » by Mich3006 » Thu May 17, 2018 10:41 am

Playoff-Simulation 2018

Conference Finals
Boston Celtics - Cleveland Cavaliers 4:2
Houston Rockets - Golden State Warriors 2:4

Finals
Boston Celtics - Golden State Warriors 1:4


twolves97 wrote:.

TheHartBreakKid wrote:.

R-DAWG wrote:.

wackbone wrote:.

TheNetsFan wrote:.

TheBrooklynKidd wrote:.

Chalm Down wrote:.

aramada wrote:.

Ayatollah wrote:.

MartinsIzAfraud wrote:.

Warriorfan wrote:.

Bucketgetter wrote:.

jdm3 wrote:.

SD2042 wrote:.

Spens1 wrote:.

Super Powered wrote:.

BullyKing wrote:.

Soulyss wrote:.

kalenclayton wrote:.

jredsaz wrote:.

LuessiT wrote:.

dantley4prez wrote:.

Dr Positivity wrote:.

NYG wrote:.

bigmean wrote:.

Dn4sty wrote:.

Ballerhogger wrote:.

Chino Athens wrote:.

dipodenis wrote:.

BuzzCity wrote:.

Blazer50 wrote:.
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Re: Mock Off-Season 2018: Rules & Regulations 

Post#19 » by jredsaz » Thu May 17, 2018 2:50 pm

Super Powered wrote:Draft Rules

- We'll be using Nbadraft.net as the source for mock draft rankings.
- First round draft selections will have 15 mins to make a pick. Second round selections will have 10 minutes.
- If you do not make your pick, you will be auto-picked the top ranked available player.
- You cannot change picks during the draft, even if the drafter behind you doesn't want a player you'd like.
- After the draft, if there's a player available you rather have, you may swap your players at that time.
- Send lists (top 10) to me at alternativeescape@yandex.com, even if you think you'll be around to pick (things come up.)


What is the start date and time (time zone too) for the draft?
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Re: Mock Off-Season 2018: Rules & Regulations 

Post#20 » by Zion Wembanyama » Thu May 17, 2018 4:01 pm

jredsaz wrote:
Super Powered wrote:Draft Rules

- We'll be using Nbadraft.net as the source for mock draft rankings.
- First round draft selections will have 15 mins to make a pick. Second round selections will have 10 minutes.
- If you do not make your pick, you will be auto-picked the top ranked available player.
- You cannot change picks during the draft, even if the drafter behind you doesn't want a player you'd like.
- After the draft, if there's a player available you rather have, you may swap your players at that time.
- Send lists (top 10) to me at alternativeescape@yandex.com, even if you think you'll be around to pick (things come up.)


What is the start date and time (time zone too) for the draft?


Up to the commissioner.
NBA - Pelicans,Hornets
NFL - Panthers
MLB - Braves
NHL - Ducks, Hurricanes
NCAAB - Tarheels, Wolverines, CHA 49ers
NCAAF - Tarheels, Wolverines, CHA 49ers
Soccer - PSG, CLT FC, USMNT, FRA, SCO
Golf - Tiger Woods
Tennis - Rafael Nadal
NASCAR - Joey Lagano

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