Same pick pairs draft SF1 - Dr Positivity vs Tony Snell

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Same pick pairs draft SF1 - Dr Positivity vs Tony Snell 

Post#1 » by Dr Positivity » Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:32 am

Here is a quick list of what you need in your writeup.

1. Specific years for each player on your team
2. Rotations and minutes for each player
3. Reasoning as to why your team will win and/or why people should vote for you.

Do not vote in this thread until both managers have submitted their writeups.

If writeups aren't posted within 24 hours, we will vote solely based on the players they have drafted (and any rotations they have posted on roster page).

First to 4 votes wins, if there isn't a winner 24 hours after both write-ups are in the first to 3 votes wins

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Re: Same pick pairs draft SF1 - Dr Positivity vs Tony Snell 

Post#2 » by Dr Positivity » Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:56 am

PG: Chauncey Billups (2005: 11.4 FGA) 2nd team All-Defense, All-star. .202 WS/48, 3.8 BPM, 16.5 pts, 5.8 ast, 3.4 reb, 42.6% 3pt, .609 TS%
SG: Michael Jordan (1991: 22.4 FGA) MVP, 1st team All-NBA, All-star, 1st team All-Defense, .321 WS/48 (leads league), 10.8 BPM (leads league), 31.5 pts (leads league), 6.0 reb, 5.5 ast, 2.7 stl, 1.0 blk
SF: Tracy McGrady (2003: 24.2 FGA) 4th in MVP, 1st team All-NBA, All-star, .264 WS/48 (leads league), 9.7 BPM (leads league), 32.1 pts (leads league), 6.5 reb, 5.5 ast, 1.7 stl, 38.6% 3pt, .565 TS%
PF: Draymond Green (2016: 10.1 FGA) 7th in MVP, 2nd team All-NBA, All-star, 1st team All-Defense, 14.0 pts, 9.5 reb, 7.4 ast, 1.5 stl, 1.4 blk, 38.8% 3pt, .587 TS%
C: Ben Wallace (2003: 6.0 FGA) 8th in MVP, 2nd team All-NBA, All-star, Defensive Player of the Year, 1st team All-Defense,.176 WS/48, 5.1 BPM, 7.0 DBPM (leads league), 6.9 pts, 15.4 reb (leads league), 1.6 ast, 3.2 blk, 1.4 stl

SF: Derrick McKey (2001: 2.1 FGA) .070 WS/48, -2.1 BPM, 2.2 pts, 2.7 reb, 1.1 ast, 0.7 stl (5.3 pts, 6.4 reb, 2.7 ast, 1.8 stl per 36)
SF/PF: Joe Ingles (2017: 5.5 FGA) .123 WS/48, 2.7 BPM, 7.1 pts, 3.2 reb, 2.7 ast, 1.2 stl (10.6 pts, 4.8 reb, 4.1 ast, 1.8 stl per 36), 44.1% 3pt, .604 TS%
C: Rick Mahorn (1993: 2.9 FGA) .102 WS/48, -2.3 BPM, 3.9 pts, 3.8 reb, 0.4 blk (9.7 pts, 9.3 reb, 1.0 blk per 36), .554 TS%

Total FGA: 84.6 / 85

PG: Chauncey Billups (38) / Michael Jordan (10)
SG: Michael Jordan (28) / Tracy McGrady (20)
SF: Tracy McGrady (18) / Joe Ingles (22) / Derrick McKey (8)
PF: Draymond Green (38) / Joe Ingles (10)
C: Ben Wallace (38) / Rick Mahorn (10)

Good luck Tony, another nice team

- Tony has a lot of firepower but we have easily the better defensive team. Ben, Draymond and Jordan are the three best defensive players in the series and Blake is the biggest liability in either starting lineup. Draymond and Ben is sick help defense covering our perimeter players with both pick and roll defense and shot blocking. We're still confident in our offense led by Jordan, Tmac, and Billups, this is 2016 Draymond at his best offensively, and Ingles off the bench is a nice piece. Shooting is not a problem for us with 39% 3pt shooting versions of Tmac and Draymond, Billups at 43% 3pt and the best bench shooter in the series in Ingles at 44% 3pt.

- Tmac has a great series if he uses his best defender on Jordan, and George isn't shutting down prime MJ by any stretch either. We have one of TMac or Jordan on the floor for 48 minutes which puts a lot of pressure on him when George isn't playing. Our defensive matchups are very solid with Draymond is perfect physical fit to defend Blake, Wallace single coverage on Shaq was a key to winning 04 finals. We're going to start with Jordan on Magic like he did in 91 finals but use some Billups as well. The relatively mediocre defensive frontcourt of Blake and 01 Shaq won't provide the same type of help defense against Jordan and Tmac's penetration as our frontcourt does

- 91 Magic and 01 Shaq aren't peak versions while Jordan and Tmac are both at their apex, which closes the gap a little bit between them if one

- Neither bench is amazing but 00 Horry shoots 30.9% from 3 and he is using him a lot at SF which isn't ideal as a PF at that point in his career. The real problem though is rookie Bayless who does not belong in this series. We're talking 36.5% FG, .019 WS/48, -5.4 BPM. PG is a hard position to hide a scrub at, and especially a combo guard who's biggest criticism at the time was low IQ tunnel vision instead of running the offense, which is the worst possible fit on a team with superstars. I would much rather take my chances with a veteran wing like McKey for 8 minutes.
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Re: Same pick pairs draft SF1 - Dr Positivity vs Tony Snell 

Post#3 » by Tony Snell » Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:54 pm

PG: 90/91 Magic Johnson 12.4 1st Team All NBA
SG: 07/08 Paul Pierce 13.7 3rd Team All NBA, Finals MVP
SF: 12/13 Paul George 14.9 3rd Team All NBA, 2nd Team All Defensive
PF: 12/13 Blake Griffin 13.1 2nd Team All NBA
C: 00/01 Shaquille O'Neal 19.2 1st Team All NBA

BE: 99/00 Robert Horry 4.8
BE: 08/09 Jerryd Bayless 3.6
BE: 90/91 Mychal Thompson 3.2

Total: 84.9 / 85.0

Rotation:

PG: Johnson (40) Bayless (8)
SG: Pierce (40) George (8)
SF: George (32) Horry (16)
PF: Griffin (36) Horry (12)
C:O'Neal (38) Griffin (2) Thompson (8)

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I think we match up very well here. We have two of the top four players available in these games in Magic and Shaq. We have an awesome pair of supplemental wings in the Pauls, who will thrive in their relative off-ball roles that this offense will provide them. My biggest liability per Dr P is a 2nd Team All NBA-er in Blake Griffin. If he is my biggest liability, then I think I am sitting pretty well :D . I think Jordan on Magic is a mistake. This offense is set to rely pretty heavily on Jordan offensively, so his utilization of tons of energy defending Magic may not be the best use of assets. We have an elite defensive option in PG to throw at Jordan. Pierce is an adequate defender who will take TMAC. The rest of the defensive assignments will be straight forward. Shaq defending Wallace is a big plus here. Shaq is a great lane clogger, and will be afforded the opportunity to meet Jordan and T MAC at the rim with the added ability to help off of the relative nil offensive threat of Wallace. We have considerably more fire power than them offensively. My fifth offensive option is as potent offensively as his second third option, and I think that my pieces fit together well, without too much stepping on each others' toes. Both benches stink in this matchup. Yes, rookie Bayless stinks. Yes, he is only playing 8 minutes per game. McKey and Mahorn both also have sub -2.0 BPM's. I think the benches about net out. Overall, I think my big two mesh together than his big 2, I think I have a more potent supplementary attack that fits very well around my big 2, I have sound defensive options to counter his main threats, and for these reasons vote T Snell!
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Re: Same pick pairs draft SF1 - Dr Positivity vs Tony Snell 

Post#4 » by Dr Positivity » Wed Nov 14, 2018 12:03 am

To be clear Jordan will start and end the game defending Magic, but the other half the time Billups or maybe even Draymond if Blake isn't on the floor will be on him to save some energy for Jordan
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Post#5 » by Fadeaway_J » Wed Nov 14, 2018 12:35 am

It's true that Snell has more depth in scoring options, but the flip side is that Dr P has two phenomenal volume scorers who don't require that much support anyway. T-Mac, Billups, and Draymond is far more scoring punch than MJ had around him in real life, so while guarding Magic isn't ideal from an energy conservation standpoint, I think the offense will be a lot less reliant on MJ than usual, not more. I also seem to recall Blake having a lot of trouble scoring against Draymond in the past.

Shaq being able to help off Big Ben is a plus for dealing with MJ. However, Billups will give him and Magic some difficulties on pick-and-rolls.

Both benches are crap but Horry at the 3 exacerbates the issue for Snell. And where is Bayless going to hide when MJ or T-Mac are running the offense for the second unit? Ingles fits his role better IMO.

Hard to vote against Shaq and Magic, but MJ and T-Mac with good spacing and an elite defensive big man pairing is even scarier to me.

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Post#6 » by Dr Positivity » Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:25 am

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Post#7 » by Laimbeer » Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:32 am

Tony's wings are a nice answer to Dr P's wings and he doesn't have any inside offensive threat. For the life of me I don't understand why Blake is ran down in these - I think he's a decent fit here.

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Post#8 » by euroleague » Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:45 am

Dr Positivity has the 2way advantage in his wings, with MJ/Billups/TMac being able to run circles around Pierce/Magic/PG in terms of speed. Draymond being a perimeter player who always has had Blake Griffin's number will especially exacerbate this - if you look at their match-ups Draymond crushes him every time. Draymond also can help onto Shaq as Blake had no real range in 2013, giving Shaq a difficult match-up.

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Post#9 » by 8on » Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:48 am

Tony's bench is better than Dr P's bench. I think Tony couldn't have more firepower if he tried. Mike and TMac are redundant to an extent. Having Draymond and Ben on the court at the same time feels like a mistake, at least on the offensive end. I feel pretty confident Tony will put up more points.

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Post#10 » by Jon_3232 » Wed Nov 14, 2018 4:22 am

This to me is the Finals. MJ and T-Mac are absolutely lethal, I don’t think they’re as redundant as some may say. Add in Billups shooting and D along with BiG Ben and Draymond....you have and extremely elite offensive and def team. Tony comes back with a big mismatch with Johnson, and a great wing duo in Pierce and George to counter Tmac and Jordan, but in the end I think MJ and Tmac do more damage than Shaq does to Wallace and Magic to MJ/Billups, I like Dr.Ps bench slightly more here

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Post#11 » by Fadeaway_J » Wed Nov 14, 2018 12:49 pm

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Post#12 » by Dr Positivity » Wed Nov 14, 2018 5:59 pm

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Post#13 » by Tony Snell » Thu Nov 15, 2018 12:00 am

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Post#14 » by Dr Positivity » Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:10 am

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