Eastern Conference ONLY GMAT: RULES

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Re: Eastern Conference ONLY GMAT: RULES 

Post#21 » by MoneyTalks41890 » Thu May 2, 2019 4:16 pm

Yeah I'm not sure what the line is but healthy Wall feels off.
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Re: Eastern Conference ONLY GMAT: RULES 

Post#22 » by FlyingArrow » Mon May 6, 2019 3:43 am

"12) no two-way contracts, but you can have between 12-16 players once season starts, in the offseason up to 18 players, if you have less than 11 prior Free Agency, use mini cap holds ($6,750,000) to get to 11 “players”."

What happens to our current two-way contracts? Are we currently in the "offseason"?
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Re: Eastern Conference ONLY GMAT: RULES 

Post#23 » by MadNESS » Mon May 6, 2019 5:15 am

FlyingArrow wrote:"12) no two-way contracts, but you can have between 12-16 players once season starts, in the offseason up to 18 players, if you have less than 11 prior Free Agency, use mini cap holds ($6,750,000) to get to 11 “players”."

What happens to our current two-way contracts? Are we currently in the "offseason"?


You can make them permanent or let them go.

Also we are “before the trade deadline”. Right now.
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Re: Eastern Conference ONLY GMAT: RULES 

Post#24 » by FlyingArrow » Mon May 6, 2019 5:23 am

MadNESS wrote:
FlyingArrow wrote:"12) no two-way contracts, but you can have between 12-16 players once season starts, in the offseason up to 18 players, if you have less than 11 prior Free Agency, use mini cap holds ($6,750,000) to get to 11 “players”."

What happens to our current two-way contracts? Are we currently in the "offseason"?


You can make them permanent or let them go.

Also we are “before the trade deadline”. Right now.


So with two 2-way players we're at 17 players. Does that mean we have to waive someone right off the bat? What is the contract status of the 2-way players that are made permanent? I'm sure it's in the CBA somewhere...

Where do we post that we are waiving someone? In the trades thread?
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Post#25 » by FlyingArrow » Tue May 7, 2019 8:26 pm

What factors come into consideration when free agents decide where to sign?

Obviously:
* Money
* Playing time
* Chance to win

What about other real-world factors that are more subjective?
* Big city/small city/hometown
* Loyalty to a team (more likely to sign with a place where they've been for a while?)
* Team's loyalty (someone from Anthony Davis' camp talked down the Celtics for how they traded away Isaiah)

Is it more objective - focusing on the first 3 factors? Or more "real-world", but introducing a strong subjective element?
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Re: Eastern Conference ONLY GMAT: RULES 

Post#26 » by MadNESS » Wed May 8, 2019 12:15 am

FlyingArrow wrote:
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FlyingArrow wrote:"12) no two-way contracts, but you can have between 12-16 players once season starts, in the offseason up to 18 players, if you have less than 11 prior Free Agency, use mini cap holds ($6,750,000) to get to 11 “players”."

What happens to our current two-way contracts? Are we currently in the "offseason"?


You can make them permanent or let them go.

Also we are “before the trade deadline”. Right now.


So with two 2-way players we're at 17 players. Does that mean we have to waive someone right off the bat? What is the contract status of the 2-way players that are made permanent? I'm sure it's in the CBA somewhere...

Where do we post that we are waiving someone? In the trades thread?


You can decide how you want to do it, but we only keep 16 max.
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Re: Eastern Conference ONLY GMAT: RULES 

Post#27 » by MadNESS » Wed May 8, 2019 12:16 am

FlyingArrow wrote:What factors come into consideration when free agents decide where to sign?

Obviously:
* Money
* Playing time
* Chance to win

What about other real-world factors that are more subjective?
* Big city/small city/hometown
* Loyalty to a team (more likely to sign with a place where they've been for a while?)
* Team's loyalty (someone from Anthony Davis' camp talked down the Celtics for how they traded away Isaiah)

Is it more objective - focusing on the first 3 factors? Or more "real-world", but introducing a strong subjective element?


Yes. Wackbone runs it and does a great job.
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Re: Eastern Conference ONLY GMAT: RULES 

Post#28 » by FlyingArrow » Wed May 8, 2019 12:46 am

MadNESS wrote:
FlyingArrow wrote:Is it more objective - focusing on the first 3 factors? Or more "real-world", but introducing a strong subjective element?


Yes. Wackbone runs it and does a great job.


I don't doubt it, but is that a yes to the first question or the second question?
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Re: Eastern Conference ONLY GMAT: RULES 

Post#29 » by MadNESS » Wed May 8, 2019 12:55 am

FlyingArrow wrote:
MadNESS wrote:
FlyingArrow wrote:Is it more objective - focusing on the first 3 factors? Or more "real-world", but introducing a strong subjective element?


Yes. Wackbone runs it and does a great job.


I don't doubt it, but is that a yes to the first question or the second question?


He considers everything- you have to pitch to him why the player should sign
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Re: Eastern Conference ONLY GMAT: RULES 

Post#30 » by FlyingArrow » Wed May 8, 2019 1:18 am

Ok, thanks.
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Post#31 » by MadNESS » Wed May 8, 2019 1:18 am

FlyingArrow wrote:Ok, thanks.


Now trade me Butler :D
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Re: Eastern Conference ONLY GMAT: RULES 

Post#32 » by FlyingArrow » Fri May 10, 2019 4:49 am

MadNESS wrote:6) we are playing with picks until 2025 (be careful with dealing future picks though, don't be Billy King)


I guess that only applies to we lesser mortals, eh? :)
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Re: Eastern Conference ONLY GMAT: RULES 

Post#33 » by FlyingArrow » Fri May 10, 2019 1:33 pm

From cbafaq.com:

"if a team used an exception to acquire a player (which means it acquired the player by any means other than using cap room), it cannot include that player in an aggregated trade for two months"

Is this rule in effect? I'm guessing not since the passage of time is kind of nebulous. We're "before the trade deadline" but not tracking which day it is.

I hadn't been paying any attention to it, but it looks like I only broke the rule once so far (if it is in effect).
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Re: Eastern Conference ONLY GMAT: RULES 

Post#34 » by DCRYsing89 » Sat May 11, 2019 6:18 am

FlyingArrow wrote:From cbafaq.com:

"if a team used an exception to acquire a player (which means it acquired the player by any means other than using cap room), it cannot include that player in an aggregated trade for two months"

Is this rule in effect? I'm guessing not since the passage of time is kind of nebulous. We're "before the trade deadline" but not tracking which day it is.

I hadn't been paying any attention to it, but it looks like I only broke the rule once so far (if it is in effect).

I can answer this, it’s a no.
Basically there is no rules restricting trades,
In other games we have had people sign players to the minimum to then trade them, receive them back after trade is done to waive them,
That’s why Ness introduced the hard cap, teams were getting salary caps about 150-160mil on occasion
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Re: Eastern Conference ONLY GMAT: RULES 

Post#35 » by FlyingArrow » Sat May 11, 2019 5:28 pm

DCRYsing89 wrote:
FlyingArrow wrote:From cbafaq.com:

"if a team used an exception to acquire a player (which means it acquired the player by any means other than using cap room), it cannot include that player in an aggregated trade for two months"

Is this rule in effect? I'm guessing not since the passage of time is kind of nebulous. We're "before the trade deadline" but not tracking which day it is.

I hadn't been paying any attention to it, but it looks like I only broke the rule once so far (if it is in effect).

I can answer this, it’s a no.
Basically there is no rules restricting trades,
In other games we have had people sign players to the minimum to then trade them, receive them back after trade is done to waive them,
That’s why Ness introduced the hard cap, teams were getting salary caps about 150-160mil on occasion


That would have been good to know. Looks like I gave away a prospect for no reason. Oh well.
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Re: Eastern Conference ONLY GMAT: RULES 

Post#36 » by OldSchoolNoBull » Sun May 12, 2019 10:19 pm

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The FA thread for the Western Conference game had the 7-9 year max salary listed as 33M, min cap holds in FA listed at $600,000, the number of "players" you have to have represented in FA at 11 - just double-checking that all of these things will still be the same.
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Post#37 » by FlyingArrow » Thu May 16, 2019 4:52 am

MadNESS wrote:12) no two-way contracts, but you can have between 12-16 players once season starts, in the offseason up to 18 players, if you have less than 11 prior Free Agency, use mini cap holds ($6,750,000) to get to 11 “players”.


Should that be $675,000? Or maybe $1,000,000? $6.75M isn't a "mini" cap hold.
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Post#38 » by OldSchoolNoBull » Thu May 16, 2019 5:50 am

FlyingArrow wrote:
MadNESS wrote:12) no two-way contracts, but you can have between 12-16 players once season starts, in the offseason up to 18 players, if you have less than 11 prior Free Agency, use mini cap holds ($6,750,000) to get to 11 “players”.


Should that be $675,000? Or maybe $1,000,000? $6.75M isn't a "mini" cap hold.


I think that's a typo, but I asked before...

OldSchoolNoBull wrote:
MadNESS wrote:.


The FA thread for the Western Conference game had the 7-9 year max salary listed as 33M, min cap holds in FA listed at $600,000, the number of "players" you have to have represented in FA at 11 - just double-checking that all of these things will still be the same.


If you go look at the Western Conference FA thread, the min cap holds were 600k. I have done all my financial planning with that in mind, so I will be upset if that is not what it is this time.
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Re: Eastern Conference ONLY GMAT: RULES 

Post#39 » by MadNESS » Thu May 16, 2019 2:41 pm

OldSchoolNoBull wrote:
FlyingArrow wrote:
MadNESS wrote:12) no two-way contracts, but you can have between 12-16 players once season starts, in the offseason up to 18 players, if you have less than 11 prior Free Agency, use mini cap holds ($6,750,000) to get to 11 “players”.


Should that be $675,000? Or maybe $1,000,000? $6.75M isn't a "mini" cap hold.


I think that's a typo, but I asked before...

OldSchoolNoBull wrote:
MadNESS wrote:.


The FA thread for the Western Conference game had the 7-9 year max salary listed as 33M, min cap holds in FA listed at $600,000, the number of "players" you have to have represented in FA at 11 - just double-checking that all of these things will still be the same.


If you go look at the Western Conference FA thread, the min cap holds were 600k. I have done all my financial planning with that in mind, so I will be upset if that is not what it is this time.



I will get it updated in the new free agency thread.
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Re: Eastern Conference ONLY GMAT: RULES 

Post#40 » by FlyingArrow » Tue May 21, 2019 9:55 pm

I converted Shake Milton's 2-way contract to a regular contract in 2018-19. I paid him the minimum $1,000,000 in 2018-19. What is his status now? This is probably a general CBA question as opposed to a question specifically about this game.

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