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Post#41 » by Fadeaway_J » Sun Sep 29, 2019 3:16 am

Should we do full playoffs with byes or hybrid? I lean towards the former except I'm always worried about the matchups dragging due to lack of voting.
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Post#42 » by Dr Positivity » Sun Sep 29, 2019 3:20 am

I couldn't convince myself that 13 Curry is actually better than peak Price
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Post#43 » by Dr Positivity » Sun Sep 29, 2019 3:22 am

ardee wrote:At this point Deke is definitely one of the all-ardee All Stars along with CP3. Can't believe I've picked him 4 drafts in a row :lol:

Jimmy looked like a steal but honestly he'd be redundant with Wade/TMac and I think the center pool is weak from hereon out.


You can't use 90 Porter ftr...
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Post#44 » by Jon_3232 » Sun Sep 29, 2019 4:17 am

Dr Positivity wrote:I couldn't convince myself that 13 Curry is actually better than peak Price


I’d def say Curry was better player as a shooter/scorer, but Price was pretty damn elite on that end too and he’s 3 fga cheaper so I’d say they’re pretty even in value.
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Post#45 » by DCRYsing89 » Sun Sep 29, 2019 1:11 pm

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Post#46 » by DCRYsing89 » Sun Sep 29, 2019 1:32 pm

I would like clarification for a player.
He retired from the NBA, but then last season returned to play, though has not been signed this season is still continuing in a league not the NBA.

Most of y’all probably know who I am talking about, but wondering if I draft him, can I use his last 4 seasons?
Since he is technically retired, just hasn’t closed the door fully?

I have sent my list to DN, just in case I ain’t around to pick since Timezone, and was wondering as it affects if I pick him or not?
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Post#47 » by Fadeaway_J » Sun Sep 29, 2019 1:39 pm

DCRYsing89 wrote:I would like clarification for a player.
He retired from the NBA, but then last season returned to play, though has not been signed this season is still continuing in a league not the NBA.

Most of y’all probably know who I am talking about, but wondering if I draft him, can I use his last 4 seasons?
Since he is technically retired, just hasn’t closed the door fully?

I have sent my list to DN, just in case I ain’t around to pick since Timezone, and was wondering as it affects if I pick him or not?

I have no idea who you're talking about, but if he played in the league as recently as 2018-19 and hasn't confirmed his retirement since then I would treat him as still active. Overseas players come back to the NBA all the time.
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Post#48 » by DCRYsing89 » Sun Sep 29, 2019 2:13 pm

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DCRYsing89 wrote:I would like clarification for a player.
He retired from the NBA, but then last season returned to play, though has not been signed this season is still continuing in a league not the NBA.

Most of y’all probably know who I am talking about, but wondering if I draft him, can I use his last 4 seasons?
Since he is technically retired, just hasn’t closed the door fully?

I have sent my list to DN, just in case I ain’t around to pick since Timezone, and was wondering as it affects if I pick him or not?

I have no idea who you're talking about, but if he played in the league as recently as 2018-19 and hasn't confirmed his retirement since then I would treat him as still active. Overseas players come back to the NBA all the time.

Andrew Bogut
He announced his retirement from the NBA last offseason,
Then got picked up by the warriors last season...

Kerr has stated he would be happy to have Bogut back, and Bogut has stated he is open to the idea but not for the whole season...

So technically he is meant to be retired, but of recent he has seemed open to the idea...
So active or not?
Maybe we should draw the line at players who are active in any league? So say Luis Scola is still technically active as an example?
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Post#49 » by Fadeaway_J » Sun Sep 29, 2019 2:25 pm

DCRYsing89 wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:
DCRYsing89 wrote:I would like clarification for a player.
He retired from the NBA, but then last season returned to play, though has not been signed this season is still continuing in a league not the NBA.

Most of y’all probably know who I am talking about, but wondering if I draft him, can I use his last 4 seasons?
Since he is technically retired, just hasn’t closed the door fully?

I have sent my list to DN, just in case I ain’t around to pick since Timezone, and was wondering as it affects if I pick him or not?

I have no idea who you're talking about, but if he played in the league as recently as 2018-19 and hasn't confirmed his retirement since then I would treat him as still active. Overseas players come back to the NBA all the time.

Andrew Bogut
He announced his retirement from the NBA last offseason,
Then got picked up by the warriors last season...

Kerr has stated he would be happy to have Bogut back, and Bogut has stated he is open to the idea but not for the whole season...

So technically he is meant to be retired, but of recent he has seemed open to the idea...
So active or not?
Maybe we should draw the line at players who are active in any league? So say Luis Scola is still technically active as an example?

If he had announced his retirement from the NBA at the end of 2018-19 then you could use the last four years, but as of right now he is still active.

Please PM me if you want to discuss specific unpicked players, they shouldn't really be named in the thread.
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Post#50 » by Fadeaway_J » Sun Sep 29, 2019 3:18 pm

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Post#51 » by Blazer50 » Sun Sep 29, 2019 3:27 pm

technically - guys announce but until they submit the paperwork they are not considered retired.
There are other guys who sit out a year (or more - or play in Europe) and return. How do you count the last season?
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Post#52 » by Fadeaway_J » Sun Sep 29, 2019 3:58 pm

Blazer50 wrote:technically - guys announce but until they submit the paperwork they are not considered retired.
There are other guys who sit out a year (or more - or play in Europe) and return. How do you count the last season?
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I anticipated this question, which is why I specifically worded the rule this way:

A season only counts towards the tally if the player participated in at least one regular season or playoff game.


So in your example, you could use the last four NBA seasons. Those two years in the middle where the player was retired/sitting out/playing overseas would not count.
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Post#53 » by 8on » Sun Sep 29, 2019 4:00 pm

Was really struggling with Karl vs. Vince. Karl fell pretty far.
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Post#54 » by Dr Positivity » Sun Sep 29, 2019 4:01 pm

I would treat Bogut as active as well
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Post#55 » by ardee » Sun Sep 29, 2019 4:11 pm

Going to have a Snell-esque bench but Porter-Wade-TMac-Sheed-Deke is solid IMO.
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Post#56 » by Fadeaway_J » Sun Sep 29, 2019 4:16 pm

ardee wrote:Going to have a Snell-esque bench but Porter-Wade-TMac-Sheed-Deke is solid IMO.

I take it you didn't see this post:

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ardee wrote:At this point Deke is definitely one of the all-ardee All Stars along with CP3. Can't believe I've picked him 4 drafts in a row :lol:

Jimmy looked like a steal but honestly he'd be redundant with Wade/TMac and I think the center pool is weak from hereon out.


You can't use 90 Porter ftr...

With his career starting in 1985-86, only his last four years are available in this draft.
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Post#57 » by 8on » Sun Sep 29, 2019 6:03 pm

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Post#58 » by DCRYsing89 » Sun Sep 29, 2019 8:00 pm

Damn I didn’t think Arvydas Sabonis would get picked, none the less happy to get a cheap Joe to add to my collection.
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Post#59 » by ardee » Sun Sep 29, 2019 8:09 pm

Fadeaway_J wrote:
ardee wrote:Going to have a Snell-esque bench but Porter-Wade-TMac-Sheed-Deke is solid IMO.

I take it you didn't see this post:

Dr Positivity wrote:
ardee wrote:At this point Deke is definitely one of the all-ardee All Stars along with CP3. Can't believe I've picked him 4 drafts in a row :lol:

Jimmy looked like a steal but honestly he'd be redundant with Wade/TMac and I think the center pool is weak from hereon out.


You can't use 90 Porter ftr...

With his career starting in 1985-86, only his last four years are available in this draft.


FFFFF that was a massive brainfart.

No idea how I'm going to get out of this now.
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Post#60 » by 8on » Sun Sep 29, 2019 8:17 pm

87-88 isn’t bad.

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