The Sunrise-Sunset Draft (90s to now) - Discussion Thread

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Post#81 » by Blazers-1977 » Tue Oct 1, 2019 7:25 am

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Post#82 » by Fadeaway_J » Tue Oct 1, 2019 3:23 pm

Dr Positivity wrote:I like my team, but am probably at the mercy of matchups. Trying to play Price and KJ together against Magic and Kobe backcourt wouldn't be fun

Asik was already picked.
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Post#83 » by Fadeaway_J » Tue Oct 1, 2019 4:49 pm

DCRYsing89 wrote:Is anyone around able to take a list?

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Post#84 » by Fadeaway_J » Tue Oct 1, 2019 7:03 pm

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Post#85 » by DCRYsing89 » Tue Oct 1, 2019 11:11 pm

A solid team I think, let’s hope I can get my first W ever :lol:
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Post#86 » by DCRYsing89 » Wed Oct 2, 2019 9:42 am

Am I the only one seeing a lack of spacing for a few teams?

Weird this draft led to that...
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Post#87 » by Zion Wembanyama » Wed Oct 2, 2019 1:15 pm

DCRYsing89 wrote:Am I the only one seeing a lack of spacing for a few teams?

Weird this draft led to that...


Is my team one of them?
NBA - Pelicans,Hornets
NFL - Panthers
MLB - Braves
NHL - Ducks, Hurricanes
NCAAB - Tarheels, Wolverines, CHA 49ers
NCAAF - Tarheels, Wolverines, CHA 49ers
Soccer - PSG, CLT FC, USMNT, FRA, SCO
Golf - Tiger Woods
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Post#88 » by Fadeaway_J » Wed Oct 2, 2019 2:07 pm

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Dr Positivity wrote:I like my team, but am probably at the mercy of matchups. Trying to play Price and KJ together against Magic and Kobe backcourt wouldn't be fun

Asik was already picked.

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Post#89 » by DCRYsing89 » Wed Oct 2, 2019 10:38 pm

Super Powered wrote:
DCRYsing89 wrote:Am I the only one seeing a lack of spacing for a few teams?

Weird this draft led to that...


Is my team one of them?

DN, Blazer50 and poop the only ones I see that have good spacing atm.

Like the rest aren’t terrible, but those 3 are the only great spaced teams I can see on quick glance (of teams that posted on roster pages)
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Post#90 » by Jon_3232 » Wed Oct 2, 2019 11:23 pm

I’d say my spacing with Curry/Manu/Durant/Arvydas isn’t bad lol
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Post#91 » by Zion Wembanyama » Wed Oct 2, 2019 11:29 pm

I don't think spacing will be as big a determining factor for winning it all in this game as it usually is...
NBA - Pelicans,Hornets
NFL - Panthers
MLB - Braves
NHL - Ducks, Hurricanes
NCAAB - Tarheels, Wolverines, CHA 49ers
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Post#92 » by Fadeaway_J » Thu Oct 3, 2019 1:54 am

DCRYsing89 wrote:
Super Powered wrote:
DCRYsing89 wrote:Am I the only one seeing a lack of spacing for a few teams?

Weird this draft led to that...


Is my team one of them?

DN, Blazer50 and poop the only ones I see that have good spacing atm.

Like the rest aren’t terrible, but those 3 are the only great spaced teams I can see on quick glance (of teams that posted on roster pages)

Most of the teams have very similar levels of spacing from what I can tell...
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Post#93 » by DCRYsing89 » Thu Oct 3, 2019 2:26 am

Jon_3232 wrote:I’d say my spacing with Curry/Manu/Durant/Arvydas isn’t bad lol

IMO to have adequate spacing you need 3 of guys on the floor at all times who shoot over 35% from 3...
Guys like Curry, Reggie etc. they can make that level of spacing great alone, but I think your bench lacks much shooting and that’s where I feel your let down.

Like I even feel my team is subpar, (in the spacing department, though I feel it’s passable)
Penny Hardaway - Joe Ingles - Jimmy Butler - Pascal Siakam - Anthony Davis
Delly - OG - Ibaka
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Post#94 » by DCRYsing89 » Thu Oct 3, 2019 2:27 am

Fadeaway_J wrote:
DCRYsing89 wrote:
Super Powered wrote:
Is my team one of them?

DN, Blazer50 and poop the only ones I see that have good spacing atm.

Like the rest aren’t terrible, but those 3 are the only great spaced teams I can see on quick glance (of teams that posted on roster pages)

Most of the teams have very similar levels of spacing from what I can tell...

Yeah that what I am saying is it feels a lot lower a level than the past games I have been in.
Though I think you could also make the arguement teams are stronger defensively on average.
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Post#95 » by Fadeaway_J » Thu Oct 3, 2019 2:34 am

DCRYsing89 wrote:
Jon_3232 wrote:I’d say my spacing with Curry/Manu/Durant/Arvydas isn’t bad lol

IMO to have adequate spacing you need 3 of guys on the floor at all times who shoot over 35% from 3...
Guys like Curry, Reggie etc. they can make that level of spacing great alone, but I think your bench lacks much shooting and that’s where I feel your let down.

Like I even feel my team is subpar, (in the spacing department, though I feel it’s passable)
Penny Hardaway - Joe Ingles - Jimmy Butler - Pascal Siakam - Anthony Davis
Delly - OG - Ibaka

That's a very high standard for a draft going back to the 90s (although I will point out that my team meets it).
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Post#96 » by DCRYsing89 » Thu Oct 3, 2019 2:46 am

Fadeaway_J wrote:
DCRYsing89 wrote:
Jon_3232 wrote:I’d say my spacing with Curry/Manu/Durant/Arvydas isn’t bad lol

IMO to have adequate spacing you need 3 of guys on the floor at all times who shoot over 35% from 3...
Guys like Curry, Reggie etc. they can make that level of spacing great alone, but I think your bench lacks much shooting and that’s where I feel your let down.

Like I even feel my team is subpar, (in the spacing department, though I feel it’s passable)
Penny Hardaway - Joe Ingles - Jimmy Butler - Pascal Siakam - Anthony Davis
Delly - OG - Ibaka

That's a very high standard for a draft going back to the 90s (although I will point out that my team meets it).

Yeah your team has passable spacing, IMO

And it’s not really a high standard,
It’s NBA proven, atm in the NBA a team can not justify having less than 3 quality 3pt shooters.
(Utah with Favours and Gobert still being able to function)
And then for Utah in the analysis it was stated that their team struggled if The other 3 weren’t shooting 40%+.
Though I beleive a consistent 35% shooter is just as scary as an streaky 40%...

Not to say that spacing is the be all and end all, you can have overwhelming talent and overcome a flaw like spacing, or just smart offensive players can overcome these limitations.
Everyone still has great teams, just a little trend I am seeing that the median level of spacing is lower than normal.
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Re: The Sunrise-Sunset Draft (90s to now) - Discussion Thread 

Post#97 » by Fadeaway_J » Thu Oct 3, 2019 2:54 am

DCRYsing89 wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:
DCRYsing89 wrote:IMO to have adequate spacing you need 3 of guys on the floor at all times who shoot over 35% from 3...
Guys like Curry, Reggie etc. they can make that level of spacing great alone, but I think your bench lacks much shooting and that’s where I feel your let down.

Like I even feel my team is subpar, (in the spacing department, though I feel it’s passable)
Penny Hardaway - Joe Ingles - Jimmy Butler - Pascal Siakam - Anthony Davis
Delly - OG - Ibaka

That's a very high standard for a draft going back to the 90s (although I will point out that my team meets it).

Yeah your team has passable spacing, IMO

And it’s not really a high standard,
It’s NBA proven, atm in the NBA a team can not justify having less than 3 quality 3pt shooters.
(Utah with Favours and Gobert still being able to function)
And then for Utah in the analysis it was stated that their team struggled if The other 3 weren’t shooting 40%+.
Though I beleive a consistent 35% shooter is just as scary as an streaky 40%...

Not to say that spacing is the be all and end all, you can have overwhelming talent and overcome a flaw like spacing, or just smart offensive players can overcome these limitations.
Everyone still has great teams, just a little trend I am seeing that the median level of spacing is lower than normal.

It's not a high standard for 2019. It is a high standard for a game where the vast majority of the players are being picked from the 90s and 2000s. Nowadays even your PF has to be a three-point shooter but there are only so many of those guys that can be drafted from this pool.
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Post#98 » by Jon_3232 » Thu Oct 3, 2019 9:14 am

DCRYsing89 wrote:
Jon_3232 wrote:I’d say my spacing with Curry/Manu/Durant/Arvydas isn’t bad lol

IMO to have adequate spacing you need 3 of guys on the floor at all times who shoot over 35% from 3...
Guys like Curry, Reggie etc. they can make that level of spacing great alone, but I think your bench lacks much shooting and that’s where I feel your let down.


Like I even feel my team is subpar, (in the spacing department, though I feel it’s passable)
Penny Hardaway - Joe Ingles - Jimmy Butler - Pascal Siakam - Anthony Davis
Delly - OG - Ibaka




Huh? 5 of my 8 guys are 35% or better from 3 on mid to high volume. I dont think it gets much better than that unless i was to somehow run 5 Currys at once.
3 of 5 elite 3 pt shooters at all times seems like an unrealistic standard in these games. Theres also really no way my team would ever have less than 3 elite options anyway unless i threw my worst lineup like Allen/Manu/Horry/Collison/Garnett out there and even then itd still have passable spacing
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Post#99 » by euroleague » Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:02 am

Disappointed I lost, because of spacing as always. I really think The spacing wasn’t so important here - I don’t think young Dirk could protect the paint from Giannis and MJ.

DN’s depth was very legit though, and he matched up extremely well against me I must say

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