The Unpopular Stars draft - Discussion thread

Moderators: Snakebites, MadNESS, Fadeaway_J

User avatar
Dr Positivity
RealGM
Posts: 59,808
And1: 15,523
Joined: Apr 29, 2009
       

The Unpopular Stars draft - Discussion thread 

Post#1 » by Dr Positivity » Wed May 5, 2021 1:56 am

Discuss

Please read my last post in the sign-up thread if you haven't

Also please remember to draft the player's season when you take it for another person
MadNESS
Forum Mod
Forum Mod
Posts: 19,733
And1: 3,691
Joined: Jun 29, 2008
Location: Wisco
Contact:
     

Re: The Unpopular Stars draft - Discussion thread 

Post#2 » by MadNESS » Wed May 5, 2021 2:01 am

Ooops didn’t realize there was a discussion already
LAKESHOW
MadNESS
Forum Mod
Forum Mod
Posts: 19,733
And1: 3,691
Joined: Jun 29, 2008
Location: Wisco
Contact:
     

Re: The Unpopular Stars draft - Discussion thread 

Post#3 » by MadNESS » Wed May 5, 2021 2:11 am

Just made my list of sabotage picks

This is gonna be fun
LAKESHOW
User avatar
Laimbeer
RealGM
Posts: 40,921
And1: 14,051
Joined: Aug 12, 2009
Location: Cabin Creek

Re: The Unpopular Stars draft - Discussion thread 

Post#4 » by Laimbeer » Wed May 5, 2021 2:35 am

I've got a pretty clear number one - we'll see what everyone else thinks as the round goes on. Also have my two and three ready for roddy. :D
MadNESS
Forum Mod
Forum Mod
Posts: 19,733
And1: 3,691
Joined: Jun 29, 2008
Location: Wisco
Contact:
     

Re: The Unpopular Stars draft - Discussion thread 

Post#5 » by MadNESS » Wed May 5, 2021 3:28 am

Laimbeer wrote:I've got a pretty clear number one - we'll see what everyone else thinks as the round goes on. Also have my two and three ready for roddy. :D


Yeah I think there’s a clear # 1 as well
LAKESHOW
Colbinii
RealGM
Posts: 31,691
And1: 19,787
Joined: Feb 13, 2013

Re: The Unpopular Stars draft - Discussion thread 

Post#6 » by Colbinii » Wed May 5, 2021 3:34 am

MadNESS wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:I've got a pretty clear number one - we'll see what everyone else thinks as the round goes on. Also have my two and three ready for roddy. :D


Yeah I think there’s a clear # 1 as well


Charles Barkley's #1 pick?
tsherkin wrote:Locked due to absence of adult conversation.

penbeast0 wrote:Guys, if you don't have anything to say, don't post.


Circa 2018
E-Balla wrote:LeBron is Jeff George.


Circa 2022
G35 wrote:Lebron is not that far off from WB in trade value.
User avatar
Snakebites
Forum Mod - Pistons
Forum Mod - Pistons
Posts: 46,575
And1: 14,769
Joined: Jul 14, 2002
Location: Looking not-so-happily deranged
   

Re: The Unpopular Stars draft - Discussion thread 

Post#7 » by Snakebites » Wed May 5, 2021 3:37 am

Colbinii wrote:
MadNESS wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:I've got a pretty clear number one - we'll see what everyone else thinks as the round goes on. Also have my two and three ready for roddy. :D


Yeah I think there’s a clear # 1 as well


Charles Barkley's #1 pick?

I believe there is a better pick than that.

Maybe 2.

EDIT- never mind
User avatar
Dr Positivity
RealGM
Posts: 59,808
And1: 15,523
Joined: Apr 29, 2009
       

Re: The Unpopular Stars draft - Discussion thread 

Post#8 » by Dr Positivity » Wed May 5, 2021 3:38 am

My first thought was the ultra FGA player, but it might be worth going for a less talented guy for 4-6 FGAs less
User avatar
goober
GOTB's Cancun
Posts: 13,908
And1: 5,958
Joined: Jun 09, 2014
     

Re: The Unpopular Stars draft - Discussion thread 

Post#9 » by goober » Wed May 5, 2021 3:55 am

Could we get some votes in the other games playoffs
User avatar
Snakebites
Forum Mod - Pistons
Forum Mod - Pistons
Posts: 46,575
And1: 14,769
Joined: Jul 14, 2002
Location: Looking not-so-happily deranged
   

Re: The Unpopular Stars draft - Discussion thread 

Post#10 » by Snakebites » Wed May 5, 2021 4:53 am

I think that’s a misfire. I mean I get it kinda. Al Jefferson isn’t very good- less useful I suppose. But that’s a misfire.

Don’t get me wrong Jefferson at 18.8 FGA is rough but I’d place him as a mid rounder at worst. But hey, clearly there are different ideas on what makes a pick “worst”.

JR is in a strong position with a not that bad unpopular guy and a top pick IMO.
parsnips33
Head Coach
Posts: 6,136
And1: 2,598
Joined: Sep 01, 2014
 

Re: The Unpopular Stars draft - Discussion thread 

Post#11 » by parsnips33 » Wed May 5, 2021 5:26 am

Snakebites wrote:I think that’s a misfire. I mean I get it kinda. Al Jefferson isn’t very good- less useful I suppose. But that’s a misfire.

Don’t get me wrong Jefferson at 18.8 FGA is rough but I’d place him as a mid rounder at worst. But hey, clearly there are different ideas on what makes a pick “worst”.

JR is in a strong position with a not that bad unpopular guy and a top pick IMO.


I had no idea what to do honestly. There are probably better picks, but we'll see what happens
User avatar
Dr Positivity
RealGM
Posts: 59,808
And1: 15,523
Joined: Apr 29, 2009
       

Re: The Unpopular Stars draft - Discussion thread 

Post#12 » by Dr Positivity » Wed May 5, 2021 5:30 am

Big Al could be quite frustrating to build around spacing/defense wise
User avatar
Laimbeer
RealGM
Posts: 40,921
And1: 14,051
Joined: Aug 12, 2009
Location: Cabin Creek

Re: The Unpopular Stars draft - Discussion thread 

Post#13 » by Laimbeer » Wed May 5, 2021 10:50 am

I had Jefferson right up there. There are higher fga guys but he'll clog up the offense and be a real problem defensively in this pool.
MadNESS
Forum Mod
Forum Mod
Posts: 19,733
And1: 3,691
Joined: Jun 29, 2008
Location: Wisco
Contact:
     

Re: The Unpopular Stars draft - Discussion thread 

Post#14 » by MadNESS » Wed May 5, 2021 1:27 pm

I’m scared for my life right now :lol:

I know he’s going to pick the consensus # 1
LAKESHOW
Colbinii
RealGM
Posts: 31,691
And1: 19,787
Joined: Feb 13, 2013

Re: The Unpopular Stars draft - Discussion thread 

Post#15 » by Colbinii » Wed May 5, 2021 1:30 pm

parsnips33 wrote:
Snakebites wrote:I think that’s a misfire. I mean I get it kinda. Al Jefferson isn’t very good- less useful I suppose. But that’s a misfire.

Don’t get me wrong Jefferson at 18.8 FGA is rough but I’d place him as a mid rounder at worst. But hey, clearly there are different ideas on what makes a pick “worst”.

JR is in a strong position with a not that bad unpopular guy and a top pick IMO.


I had no idea what to do honestly. There are probably better picks, but we'll see what happens


I think its a great pick. Arguably the worst player on any All-NBA team since 1990, plays no defense and a black hole. He is a terrible fit with James, Jordan, Magic, ect.
tsherkin wrote:Locked due to absence of adult conversation.

penbeast0 wrote:Guys, if you don't have anything to say, don't post.


Circa 2018
E-Balla wrote:LeBron is Jeff George.


Circa 2022
G35 wrote:Lebron is not that far off from WB in trade value.
MadNESS
Forum Mod
Forum Mod
Posts: 19,733
And1: 3,691
Joined: Jun 29, 2008
Location: Wisco
Contact:
     

Re: The Unpopular Stars draft - Discussion thread 

Post#16 » by MadNESS » Wed May 5, 2021 1:32 pm

Yeah I’m toast :D
LAKESHOW
User avatar
Snakebites
Forum Mod - Pistons
Forum Mod - Pistons
Posts: 46,575
And1: 14,769
Joined: Jul 14, 2002
Location: Looking not-so-happily deranged
   

Re: The Unpopular Stars draft - Discussion thread 

Post#17 » by Snakebites » Wed May 5, 2021 2:07 pm

Colbinii wrote:
parsnips33 wrote:
Snakebites wrote:I think that’s a misfire. I mean I get it kinda. Al Jefferson isn’t very good- less useful I suppose. But that’s a misfire.

Don’t get me wrong Jefferson at 18.8 FGA is rough but I’d place him as a mid rounder at worst. But hey, clearly there are different ideas on what makes a pick “worst”.

JR is in a strong position with a not that bad unpopular guy and a top pick IMO.


I had no idea what to do honestly. There are probably better picks, but we'll see what happens


I think its a great pick. Arguably the worst player on any All-NBA team since 1990, plays no defense and a black hole. He is a terrible fit with James, Jordan, Magic, ect.

I agree he's the worst player. I just didn't think he was expensive enough for the number one pick. I had him going at maybe 4-5.
Colbinii
RealGM
Posts: 31,691
And1: 19,787
Joined: Feb 13, 2013

Re: The Unpopular Stars draft - Discussion thread 

Post#18 » by Colbinii » Wed May 5, 2021 2:14 pm

Snakebites wrote:
Colbinii wrote:
parsnips33 wrote:
I had no idea what to do honestly. There are probably better picks, but we'll see what happens


I think its a great pick. Arguably the worst player on any All-NBA team since 1990, plays no defense and a black hole. He is a terrible fit with James, Jordan, Magic, ect.


I agree he's the worst player. I just didn't think he was expensive enough for the number one pick. I had him going at maybe 4-5.


Yeah I am wondering how that will work. You do raise a good point about the expensiveness--at 18.8 FGA, J.R. Smith could still draft a "GOAT" and another high-level all-nba talent. Was he given a 23-27 FGA player, perhaps he couldn't afford 2 all-timers.
tsherkin wrote:Locked due to absence of adult conversation.

penbeast0 wrote:Guys, if you don't have anything to say, don't post.


Circa 2018
E-Balla wrote:LeBron is Jeff George.


Circa 2022
G35 wrote:Lebron is not that far off from WB in trade value.
User avatar
Snakebites
Forum Mod - Pistons
Forum Mod - Pistons
Posts: 46,575
And1: 14,769
Joined: Jul 14, 2002
Location: Looking not-so-happily deranged
   

Re: The Unpopular Stars draft - Discussion thread 

Post#19 » by Snakebites » Wed May 5, 2021 2:18 pm

Colbinii wrote:
Snakebites wrote:
Colbinii wrote:
I think its a great pick. Arguably the worst player on any All-NBA team since 1990, plays no defense and a black hole. He is a terrible fit with James, Jordan, Magic, ect.


I agree he's the worst player. I just didn't think he was expensive enough for the number one pick. I had him going at maybe 4-5.


Yeah I am wondering how that will work. You do raise a good point about the expensiveness--at 18.8 FGA, J.R. Smith could still draft a "GOAT" and another high-level all-nba talent. Was he given a 23-27 FGA player, perhaps he couldn't afford 2 all-timers.


That's funny, after thinking about it, I think I'm starting to come around.

18.8 FGA at center is a lot more harmful than 18.8 FGA at a perimeter position given that a higher number of cheap, high impact players are available at the center spot. I didn't think that difference bridged the gap in cost for some of the more costly players that will be picked in round 1, but maybe it actually does given Al Jefferson made the All-NBA team about 2-3 years before players like him faded into total irrelevance.

I dunno, its hard to say.

Unfortunately I think what we're probably going to see in this game is teams building some REALLY bad benches to make ends meet after the collective FGA hit we're all taking.
Colbinii
RealGM
Posts: 31,691
And1: 19,787
Joined: Feb 13, 2013

Re: The Unpopular Stars draft - Discussion thread 

Post#20 » by Colbinii » Wed May 5, 2021 2:22 pm

Snakebites wrote:
Colbinii wrote:
Snakebites wrote:
I agree he's the worst player. I just didn't think he was expensive enough for the number one pick. I had him going at maybe 4-5.


Yeah I am wondering how that will work. You do raise a good point about the expensiveness--at 18.8 FGA, J.R. Smith could still draft a "GOAT" and another high-level all-nba talent. Was he given a 23-27 FGA player, perhaps he couldn't afford 2 all-timers.


That's funny, after thinking about it, I think I'm starting to come around.

18.8 FGA at center is a lot more harmful than 18.8 FGA at a perimeter position given that a higher number of cheap, high impact players are available at the center spot. I didn't think that difference bridged the gap in cost for some of the more costly players that will be picked in round 1, but maybe it actually does given Al Jefferson made the All-NBA team about 2-3 years before players like him faded into total irrelevance.

I dunno, its hard to say.

Unfortunately I think what we're probably going to see in this game is teams building some REALLY bad benches to make ends meet after the collective FGA hit we're all taking.


Another thing to think about is Al Jefferson HAS to play Center. Bernard King could play the 2 or 3 technically.

Al Jefferson gives no flexibility.
tsherkin wrote:Locked due to absence of adult conversation.

penbeast0 wrote:Guys, if you don't have anything to say, don't post.


Circa 2018
E-Balla wrote:LeBron is Jeff George.


Circa 2022
G35 wrote:Lebron is not that far off from WB in trade value.

Return to Trades and Transactions Games