FUTURE DRAFT GAMES - NEW THREAD 2/21/22

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Post#881 » by damecurry » Sat May 13, 2023 4:29 pm

durantbird wrote:70s and 90s Draft. You can only pick players in seasons of those decades. ABA included.

Would shake things up a bit, and can be harder to find the role players, also might be more challenging with spacing.

Removing 80s is not that much of a big deal, but also has its impact, like removing Bird, prime McHale, Moncrief, Cooper, Philly Erving/Moses.

I'm obviously massively in favor of this because these are the types of concepts I've been pushing for since I came back. I think you should start sign-ups for this one whenever.
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Post#882 » by Snakebites » Sat May 13, 2023 4:32 pm

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Colbinii wrote:Inverse Alphabet Game [Z-A]

-You can stick with a franchise consecutively


I really like this. Jordan is at the end [If we play this] while LeBron is in the middle.

We could even do 1990-2010. Still plenty of 3+D role players

The allowing multiple people per franchise would certainy appease people playing in the current Alphabetical game, but I don't think it's going to sway those who decided not to play that one- and there were plenty of people who didn't care for the original idea.
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Post#883 » by Dr Positivity » Sat May 13, 2023 5:01 pm

durantbird wrote:70s and 90s Draft. You can only pick players in seasons of those decades. ABA included.

Would shake things up a bit, and can be harder to find the role players, also might be more challenging with spacing.

Removing 80s is not that much of a big deal, but also has its impact, like removing Bird, prime McHale, Moncrief, Cooper, Philly Erving/Moses.


I'd prefer a bigger split like 70s and 00s, a lot of the 80s guys played in 70s or 90s.
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Post#884 » by Colbinii » Sat May 13, 2023 5:07 pm

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durantbird wrote:70s and 90s Draft. You can only pick players in seasons of those decades. ABA included.

Would shake things up a bit, and can be harder to find the role players, also might be more challenging with spacing.

Removing 80s is not that much of a big deal, but also has its impact, like removing Bird, prime McHale, Moncrief, Cooper, Philly Erving/Moses.


I'd prefer a bigger split like 70s and 00s, a lot of the 80s guys played in 70s or 90s.


100%.

Could also do 70-80 and 00-10
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Post#885 » by Fadeaway_J » Sat May 13, 2023 5:08 pm

Dr Positivity wrote:
durantbird wrote:70s and 90s Draft. You can only pick players in seasons of those decades. ABA included.

Would shake things up a bit, and can be harder to find the role players, also might be more challenging with spacing.

Removing 80s is not that much of a big deal, but also has its impact, like removing Bird, prime McHale, Moncrief, Cooper, Philly Erving/Moses.


I'd prefer a bigger split like 70s and 00s, a lot of the 80s guys played in 70s or 90s.

I'm fine either way but wouldn't mind missing out the familiar 2000s guys for once.
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Post#886 » by durantbird » Sat May 13, 2023 6:23 pm

Colbinii wrote:
Dr Positivity wrote:
durantbird wrote:70s and 90s Draft. You can only pick players in seasons of those decades. ABA included.

Would shake things up a bit, and can be harder to find the role players, also might be more challenging with spacing.

Removing 80s is not that much of a big deal, but also has its impact, like removing Bird, prime McHale, Moncrief, Cooper, Philly Erving/Moses.


I'd prefer a bigger split like 70s and 00s, a lot of the 80s guys played in 70s or 90s.


100%.

Could also do 70-80 and 00-10

Relatively recently we did 70s and 80s all-star/no MVP draft, which is similar
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Post#887 » by durantbird » Thu May 18, 2023 3:59 pm

00s Stars, Pre-00s Role Players.

Every All Star or All NBA player should be from 2000 to 2009. Other players must be from 99 and prior.
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Post#888 » by Snakebites » Thu May 18, 2023 4:06 pm

I’m personally not wild about the trend toward using older players. I get the desire to mix things up but it’s not my thing personally.

But hey, clearly enough other people disagree.
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Post#889 » by Fadeaway_J » Thu May 18, 2023 4:36 pm

durantbird wrote:00s Stars, Pre-00s Role Players.

Every All Star or All NBA player should be from 2000 to 2009. Other players must be from 99 and prior.

That sounds pretty miserable tbh. Most of us have limited enough knowledge of older stars let alone role players. And quite frankly, pre-2000s role players aren't a group I'm interested in learning more about.
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Post#890 » by durantbird » Sat May 20, 2023 11:58 am

Fadeaway_J wrote:We should redo the Pacific Division game from several years back.

So much talent has passed through since then that an 80s to now pool can sustain 10-12 drafters easily.

I think this could be a good idea
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Post#891 » by Fadeaway_J » Sat May 20, 2023 12:44 pm

durantbird wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:We should redo the Pacific Division game from several years back.

So much talent has passed through since then that an 80s to now pool can sustain 10-12 drafters easily.

I think this could be a good idea

I'm thinking about it, but it's a bit alarming how many people seem to have disappeared over the last couple of days... :-?
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Post#892 » by MadNESS » Sat May 20, 2023 4:42 pm

still think a colored jersey game would be cool
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Post#893 » by durantbird » Wed May 24, 2023 10:28 am

Cross-Standings East Duos.

Pairs draft where in each round you can pick a pair of players, one from each franchise. You need to match two franchises finishing in "opposite" places in 2023, i.e. first team with 15th team, second team with 14th team, 8th team with itself. The seasons you choose can be any season for the franchise within 80s to now. For example, your can pair any 80s to now Bucks player with 80s to now Pistons player, similarly Boston with Hornets. One player who ever won First Team for each pair.

May do it a tighter timeframe (90s to now? 00s to now?) if we do West+East.
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Post#894 » by Colbinii » Wed May 24, 2023 4:23 pm

durantbird wrote:Cross-Standings East Duos.

Pairs draft where in each round you can pick a pair of players, one from each franchise. You need to match two franchises finishing in "opposite" places in 2023, i.e. first team with 15th team, second team with 14th team, 8th team with itself. The seasons you choose can be any season for the franchise within 80s to now. For example, your can pair any 80s to now Bucks player with 80s to now Pistons player, similarly Boston with Hornets. One player who ever won First Team for each pair.

May do it a tighter timeframe (90s to now? 00s to now?) if we do West+East.


Needs to be 00s to now unless we get > 12.
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Post#895 » by durantbird » Wed May 24, 2023 4:26 pm

Colbinii wrote:
durantbird wrote:Cross-Standings East Duos.

Pairs draft where in each round you can pick a pair of players, one from each franchise. You need to match two franchises finishing in "opposite" places in 2023, i.e. first team with 15th team, second team with 14th team, 8th team with itself. The seasons you choose can be any season for the franchise within 80s to now. For example, your can pair any 80s to now Bucks player with 80s to now Pistons player, similarly Boston with Hornets. One player who ever won First Team for each pair.

May do it a tighter timeframe (90s to now? 00s to now?) if we do West+East.


Needs to be 00s to now unless we get > 12.

The concept itself is relatively challenging, so that's why I used a wider timeframe, but always when there is a large pool somehow teams end up loaded. Though the restrictions might make it harder.
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Post#896 » by Colbinii » Wed May 24, 2023 4:35 pm

durantbird wrote:
Colbinii wrote:
durantbird wrote:Cross-Standings East Duos.

Pairs draft where in each round you can pick a pair of players, one from each franchise. You need to match two franchises finishing in "opposite" places in 2023, i.e. first team with 15th team, second team with 14th team, 8th team with itself. The seasons you choose can be any season for the franchise within 80s to now. For example, your can pair any 80s to now Bucks player with 80s to now Pistons player, similarly Boston with Hornets. One player who ever won First Team for each pair.

May do it a tighter timeframe (90s to now? 00s to now?) if we do West+East.


Needs to be 00s to now unless we get > 12.

The concept itself is relatively challenging, so that's why I used a wider timeframe, but always when there is a large pool somehow teams end up loaded. Though the restrictions might make it harder.


But you aren't restricting any players.

You still have some filthy combos like Jokic/Manu, Giannis/Billups, ect.

I assume only one player with an All-NBA 1st team per pair.
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Post#897 » by durantbird » Fri May 26, 2023 6:01 am

Colbinii wrote:
durantbird wrote:
Colbinii wrote:
Needs to be 00s to now unless we get > 12.

The concept itself is relatively challenging, so that's why I used a wider timeframe, but always when there is a large pool somehow teams end up loaded. Though the restrictions might make it harder.


But you aren't restricting any players.

You still have some filthy combos like Jokic/Manu, Giannis/Billups, ect.

I assume only one player with an All-NBA 1st team per pair.

There's a combo I'm actually more concerned of, which is Jimmy LeBron, both Miami. I thought maybe we can also exclude FMVPs and Conference FMVPs together with first teamers, but currently it's not yet helpful.

Regarding timeline BTW, I think limiting to East alone would make sense to keep 90s onwards. Whole league 00s to now.
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Post#898 » by flaco » Fri May 26, 2023 6:50 am

durantbird wrote:
Colbinii wrote:
durantbird wrote:The concept itself is relatively challenging, so that's why I used a wider timeframe, but always when there is a large pool somehow teams end up loaded. Though the restrictions might make it harder.


But you aren't restricting any players.

You still have some filthy combos like Jokic/Manu, Giannis/Billups, ect.

I assume only one player with an All-NBA 1st team per pair.

There's a combo I'm actually more concerned of, which is Jimmy LeBron, both Miami. I thought maybe we can also exclude FMVPs and Conference FMVPs together with first teamers, but currently it's not yet helpful.

Regarding timeline BTW, I think limiting to East alone would make sense to keep 90s onwards. Whole league 00s to now.

I think Jimmy would be a terrible fit next to LeBron cause he'd be forced to play mostly off the ball. No point using a mediocre 3pt shooter off the ball. Chances are they'd be taking turns on offense. As crafty as Jimmy is, you'd probably be better off with a less talented 2nd option who is a floor spacer.
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Post#899 » by migya » Fri May 26, 2023 11:16 am

Starting five composed of five players each from a different decade, post merger onwards, that way their are six decades available and since 1970s and 2020s are only partial decades.

Each player in your starting five must have played most of their games in their career from a different decade. eg. Kareem is post merger - 1979, Magic is 1980s, Jordan is 1990s, Kobe 2000s, Lebron is 2010s, Embiid is 2020s
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Post#900 » by durantbird » Fri May 26, 2023 12:15 pm

migya wrote:Starting five composed of five players each from a different decade, post merger onwards, that way their are six decades available and since 1970s and 2020s are only partial decades.

Each player in your starting five must have played most of their games in their career from a different decade. eg. Kareem is post merger - 1979, Magic is 1980s, Jordan is 1990s, Kobe 2000s, Lebron is 2010s, Embiid is 2020s

1. I didn't understand - so we need a season from each decade or do we need 6 players with each having a different "primary decade"?
2. What do you mean that Kareem's decade is 1979? He has exactly the same number of seasons in 70s and 80s.
3. I think the player pool is way too large for the current number of participants, should probably have more restrictions.

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