The Young Franchises Draft - Discussion

[durantbird]

Please ensure your roster pages are completed by 9 PM EST tomorrow.

We will have playoffs with 2 play in games.

[Dr Positivity]

Surprised nobody went for Zion in this pool

[Troubadour]

Surprised nobody went for Zion in this pool

Thought about taking him in the third round, but ran out of FGAs pretty quickly

[durantbird]

Surprised nobody went for Zion in this pool

Considered him but worried about his defense, though Bosh would be a perfect complementary player for him.

I was actually surprised Vlade Divac and DeMarcus Cousins were not picked with the relative shallow pool of centers. Vlade for him "value for money" and Cousins for offensive effect. Also really considered Josh Howard, thought he could have been a great pick in this draft.

[Larry_Russell]

Surprised nobody went for Zion in this pool

Considered him but worried about his defense, though Bosh would be a perfect complementary player for him.

I was actually surprised Vlade Divac and DeMarcus Cousins were not picked with the relative shallow pool of centers. Vlade for him "value for money" and Cousins for offensive effect. Also really considered Josh Howard, thought he could have been a great pick in this draft.

I never noticed, did finley get picked?

[durantbird]

Surprised nobody went for Zion in this pool

Considered him but worried about his defense, though Bosh would be a perfect complementary player for him.

I was actually surprised Vlade Divac and DeMarcus Cousins were not picked with the relative shallow pool of centers. Vlade for him "value for money" and Cousins for offensive effect. Also really considered Josh Howard, thought he could have been a great pick in this draft.

I never noticed, did finley get picked?

Another notable omission

[Fadeaway_J]

Considered him but worried about his defense, though Bosh would be a perfect complementary player for him.

I was actually surprised Vlade Divac and DeMarcus Cousins were not picked with the relative shallow pool of centers. Vlade for him "value for money" and Cousins for offensive effect. Also really considered Josh Howard, thought he could have been a great pick in this draft.

I never noticed, did finley get picked?

Another notable omission

Way too expensive in his prime years, especially with those ridiculous minute totals.

[durantbird]

Last two are playing against play-in winners:

There were 12 items in your list. Here they are in random order:

Fadeaway_J
Play in #2
Laimbeer
Ryoga Hibiki
Play in #1
Troubadour
Larry_Russell
wackbone
GeorgeMarcus
durantbird
Dr Positivity
Colbinii
IP: 2001:4df7:3:630a:9d59:c7d3:65b6:3dd2
Timestamp: 2022-05-12 15:37:16 UTC

Play in #1: Ryoga Hibiki vs Troubadour
Play in #2: Fadeaway_J vs Laimbeer
R1 game #1: Larry_Russell vs wackbone
R1 game #2: GeorgeMarcus vs durantbird
R1 game #3: Dr Positivity vs Play in #1 Winner
R1 game #4: Colbinii vs Play in #2 Winner

[wackbone]

PG: Jason Kidd...2009-10...8.4fga
SG: Morris Peterson...2005-06...13.4fga
SF: Tracy McGrady...2002-03...24.2fga
PF: Kevin Love...2017-18...12.4fga
C: Dwight Howard...2009-10...10.2fga

SG/SF: Mike Miller...2005-06...10.3fga
PG: Jason Williams...2009-10...5.2
PF/C: Chris Andersen...2012-13...3

87.1/88

Kidd(36) / Jason Williams(12)
Morris Peterson(30) / Mike Miller(18)
Tracy McGrady(38) / Mike Miller(10)
Kevin Love(36) / Chris Andersen(12)
Dwight Howard(38) / Chris Andersen(10)

Stats and accolades

Kidd:
10.3ppg...5.6rpg...9.1apg...1.8spg...42.5% from 3 on 5.2 attempts
Peterson:
16.8ppg...4.6rpg...2.3apg...1.3spg...39.5% from 3 on 5.5 attempts
McGrady:
led league in scoring, 4th in MVP
32.1ppg...6.5rpg...5.5apg...1.7spg...1bpg...38.5% from 3 on 6 attempts
Love
17.6ppg...9.3rpg...1.7apg...41.5% from 3 on 5.6 attempts
Howard
DPOY, All Defense 1st, All NBA 1st, 4th in MVP
18.3ppg...13.2rpg...1.8apg...1spg...2.8bpg

Miller
6MOTY
13.7ppg...5.4rpg...2.7apg...41% from 3 on 4.6 attempts
Williams
6ppg...1.5rpg...3.6apg...38% from 3 on 2.7 attempts
Anderson
4.9ppg...4.1rpg...1bpg

Space and Pace.

HAving one of the most athletic centers of all time surrounded by lethal shooters, 1 who is one of the best passers in NBA history, and 1 who had a historic scoring season.

FYI you need to use a Timberwolves season for Love, can’t use a Cavs season

[durantbird]

PG: Jason Kidd...2009-10...8.4fga
SG: Morris Peterson...2005-06...13.4fga
SF: Tracy McGrady...2002-03...24.2fga
PF: Kevin Love...2017-18...12.4fga
C: Dwight Howard...2009-10...10.2fga

SG/SF: Mike Miller...2005-06...10.3fga
PG: Jason Williams...2009-10...5.2
PF/C: Chris Andersen...2012-13...3

87.1/88

Kidd(36) / Jason Williams(12)
Morris Peterson(30) / Mike Miller(18)
Tracy McGrady(38) / Mike Miller(10)
Kevin Love(36) / Chris Andersen(12)
Dwight Howard(38) / Chris Andersen(10)

Stats and accolades

Kidd:
10.3ppg...5.6rpg...9.1apg...1.8spg...42.5% from 3 on 5.2 attempts
Peterson:
16.8ppg...4.6rpg...2.3apg...1.3spg...39.5% from 3 on 5.5 attempts
McGrady:
led league in scoring, 4th in MVP
32.1ppg...6.5rpg...5.5apg...1.7spg...1bpg...38.5% from 3 on 6 attempts
Love
17.6ppg...9.3rpg...1.7apg...41.5% from 3 on 5.6 attempts
Howard
DPOY, All Defense 1st, All NBA 1st, 4th in MVP
18.3ppg...13.2rpg...1.8apg...1spg...2.8bpg

Miller
6MOTY
13.7ppg...5.4rpg...2.7apg...41% from 3 on 4.6 attempts
Williams
6ppg...1.5rpg...3.6apg...38% from 3 on 2.7 attempts
Anderson
4.9ppg...4.1rpg...1bpg

Space and Pace.

HAving one of the most athletic centers of all time surrounded by lethal shooters, 1 who is one of the best passers in NBA history, and 1 who had a historic scoring season.

FYI you need to use a Timberwolves season for Love, can’t use a Cavs season

Larry_Russell, please fix this. I believe you have enough flexibility to do so...

[durantbird]

Starters
C - Pau Gasol (2007-08)

Spoiler:

18.9 ppg, 8.4 rpg, 3.2 apg, 0.5 spg, 1.5 bpg, .538 FG%, .807 FT%, .639 TS%

PF - LeBron James (2012-13)

Spoiler:

26.8 ppg, 8.0 rpg, 7.3 apg, 1.7 spg, 0.9 bpg, .565 FG%, .406 3P%, .753 FT%, 103 3P, .640 TS%
- Led the NBA in PER (31.6), OWS (14.6), WS (19.3), WS/48 (.322), OBPM (9.3), BPM (11.7), VORP (9.9)
- NBA Champion
- NBA MVP
- NBA Finals MVP
- NBA All-Star
- All-NBA First Team
- All-Defensive First Team

SF - Nicolas Batum (2018-19)

Spoiler:

9.3 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 3.3 apg, 0.9 spg, 0.6 bpg, .450 FG%, .389 3P%, .865 T%, 116 3P, .581 TS%

SG - Desmond Bane (2021-22)

Spoiler:

18.2 ppg, 4.4 rpg, 2.7 apg, 1.2 spg, 0.4 bpg, .461 FG%, .436 3P%, .903 FT%, 228 3P, .592 TS%

PG - Jrue Holiday (2020-21)

Spoiler:

17.7 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 6.1 apg, 1.6 spg, 0.6 bpg, .503 FG%, .392 3P%, .787 FT%, 111 3P, .592 TS%
- NBA Champion
- All-Defensive First Team

Bench
C/F - Serge Ibaka (2017-18)

Spoiler:

12.6 ppg, 6.3 rpg, 0.8 apg, 0.4 spg, 1.3 bpg, .483 FG%, .360 3P%, .797 FT%, 107 3P, .574 TS%

F - Luc Mbah a Moute (2013-14)

Spoiler:

3.5 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 0.6 apg, 0.5 spg, 0.2 bpg, .451 FG%, .235 3P%, .687 FT%, .503 TS%

F/G - Reggie Bullock (2021-22)

Spoiler:

8.6 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 1.2 apg, 0.6 spg, 0.2 bpg, .401 FG%, .360 3P%, .833 FT%, 141 3P, .558 TS%

Rotations
C - Gasol (38), Ibaka (10)
PF - Ibaka (22), James (18), Mbah a Moute (8)
SF - James (12), Batum (25), Bullock (11)
SG - Bane (36), Bullock (12)
PG - Holiday (38), James (10)

FGA Per Player
LeBron James - 17.8
Pau Gasol - 13.5
Jrue Holiday - 13.9
Desmond Bane - 14.5
Serge Ibaka - 10.3
Reggie Bullock - 7.4
Nicolas Batum - 7.5
Luc Mbah a Moute - 3.0

Total: 87.9/88.0

Unfortunatley your Jrue season is ineligible

[Fadeaway_J]

Starters
C - Pau Gasol (2007-08)

Spoiler:

18.9 ppg, 8.4 rpg, 3.2 apg, 0.5 spg, 1.5 bpg, .538 FG%, .807 FT%, .639 TS%

PF - LeBron James (2012-13)

Spoiler:

26.8 ppg, 8.0 rpg, 7.3 apg, 1.7 spg, 0.9 bpg, .565 FG%, .406 3P%, .753 FT%, 103 3P, .640 TS%
- Led the NBA in PER (31.6), OWS (14.6), WS (19.3), WS/48 (.322), OBPM (9.3), BPM (11.7), VORP (9.9)
- NBA Champion
- NBA MVP
- NBA Finals MVP
- NBA All-Star
- All-NBA First Team
- All-Defensive First Team

SF - Nicolas Batum (2018-19)

Spoiler:

9.3 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 3.3 apg, 0.9 spg, 0.6 bpg, .450 FG%, .389 3P%, .865 T%, 116 3P, .581 TS%

SG - Desmond Bane (2021-22)

Spoiler:

18.2 ppg, 4.4 rpg, 2.7 apg, 1.2 spg, 0.4 bpg, .461 FG%, .436 3P%, .903 FT%, 228 3P, .592 TS%

PG - Jrue Holiday (2020-21)

Spoiler:

17.7 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 6.1 apg, 1.6 spg, 0.6 bpg, .503 FG%, .392 3P%, .787 FT%, 111 3P, .592 TS%
- NBA Champion
- All-Defensive First Team

Bench
C/F - Serge Ibaka (2017-18)

Spoiler:

12.6 ppg, 6.3 rpg, 0.8 apg, 0.4 spg, 1.3 bpg, .483 FG%, .360 3P%, .797 FT%, 107 3P, .574 TS%

F - Luc Mbah a Moute (2013-14)

Spoiler:

3.5 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 0.6 apg, 0.5 spg, 0.2 bpg, .451 FG%, .235 3P%, .687 FT%, .503 TS%

F/G - Reggie Bullock (2021-22)

Spoiler:

8.6 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 1.2 apg, 0.6 spg, 0.2 bpg, .401 FG%, .360 3P%, .833 FT%, 141 3P, .558 TS%

Rotations
C - Gasol (38), Ibaka (10)
PF - Ibaka (22), James (18), Mbah a Moute (8)
SF - James (12), Batum (25), Bullock (11)
SG - Bane (36), Bullock (12)
PG - Holiday (38), James (10)

FGA Per Player
LeBron James - 17.8
Pau Gasol - 13.5
Jrue Holiday - 13.9
Desmond Bane - 14.5
Serge Ibaka - 10.3
Reggie Bullock - 7.4
Nicolas Batum - 7.5
Luc Mbah a Moute - 3.0

Total: 87.9/88.0

Unfortunatley your Jrue season is ineligible

Oh ****.

Might as well drop me out, I don't think I can complete with 2017 Jrue.

[durantbird]

Starters
C - Pau Gasol (2007-08)

Spoiler:

18.9 ppg, 8.4 rpg, 3.2 apg, 0.5 spg, 1.5 bpg, .538 FG%, .807 FT%, .639 TS%

PF - LeBron James (2012-13)

Spoiler:

26.8 ppg, 8.0 rpg, 7.3 apg, 1.7 spg, 0.9 bpg, .565 FG%, .406 3P%, .753 FT%, 103 3P, .640 TS%
- Led the NBA in PER (31.6), OWS (14.6), WS (19.3), WS/48 (.322), OBPM (9.3), BPM (11.7), VORP (9.9)
- NBA Champion
- NBA MVP
- NBA Finals MVP
- NBA All-Star
- All-NBA First Team
- All-Defensive First Team

SF - Nicolas Batum (2018-19)

Spoiler:

9.3 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 3.3 apg, 0.9 spg, 0.6 bpg, .450 FG%, .389 3P%, .865 T%, 116 3P, .581 TS%

SG - Desmond Bane (2021-22)

Spoiler:

18.2 ppg, 4.4 rpg, 2.7 apg, 1.2 spg, 0.4 bpg, .461 FG%, .436 3P%, .903 FT%, 228 3P, .592 TS%

PG - Jrue Holiday (2020-21)

Spoiler:

17.7 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 6.1 apg, 1.6 spg, 0.6 bpg, .503 FG%, .392 3P%, .787 FT%, 111 3P, .592 TS%
- NBA Champion
- All-Defensive First Team

Bench
C/F - Serge Ibaka (2017-18)

Spoiler:

12.6 ppg, 6.3 rpg, 0.8 apg, 0.4 spg, 1.3 bpg, .483 FG%, .360 3P%, .797 FT%, 107 3P, .574 TS%

F - Luc Mbah a Moute (2013-14)

Spoiler:

3.5 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 0.6 apg, 0.5 spg, 0.2 bpg, .451 FG%, .235 3P%, .687 FT%, .503 TS%

F/G - Reggie Bullock (2021-22)

Spoiler:

8.6 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 1.2 apg, 0.6 spg, 0.2 bpg, .401 FG%, .360 3P%, .833 FT%, 141 3P, .558 TS%

Rotations
C - Gasol (38), Ibaka (10)
PF - Ibaka (22), James (18), Mbah a Moute (8)
SF - James (12), Batum (25), Bullock (11)
SG - Bane (36), Bullock (12)
PG - Holiday (38), James (10)

FGA Per Player
LeBron James - 17.8
Pau Gasol - 13.5
Jrue Holiday - 13.9
Desmond Bane - 14.5
Serge Ibaka - 10.3
Reggie Bullock - 7.4
Nicolas Batum - 7.5
Luc Mbah a Moute - 3.0

Total: 87.9/88.0

Unfortunatley your Jrue season is ineligible

Oh ****.

Might as well drop me out, I don't think I can complete with 2017 Jrue.

I think you have a really solid team, even with 17' Jrue who's still a great PG and defender, only with less 3pt accuracy. Also having LeBron is a huge plus, the team around him is really solid. Suggest you just switch to this year instead of dropping out.

[Larry_Russell]

PG: Jason Kidd...2009-10...8.4fga
SG: Morris Peterson...2005-06...13.4fga
SF: Tracy McGrady...2002-03...24.2fga
PF: Kevin Love...2017-18...12.4fga
C: Dwight Howard...2009-10...10.2fga

SG/SF: Mike Miller...2005-06...10.3fga
PG: Jason Williams...2009-10...5.2
PF/C: Chris Andersen...2012-13...3

87.1/88

Kidd(36) / Jason Williams(12)
Morris Peterson(30) / Mike Miller(18)
Tracy McGrady(38) / Mike Miller(10)
Kevin Love(36) / Chris Andersen(12)
Dwight Howard(38) / Chris Andersen(10)

Stats and accolades

Kidd:
10.3ppg...5.6rpg...9.1apg...1.8spg...42.5% from 3 on 5.2 attempts
Peterson:
16.8ppg...4.6rpg...2.3apg...1.3spg...39.5% from 3 on 5.5 attempts
McGrady:
led league in scoring, 4th in MVP
32.1ppg...6.5rpg...5.5apg...1.7spg...1bpg...38.5% from 3 on 6 attempts
Love
17.6ppg...9.3rpg...1.7apg...41.5% from 3 on 5.6 attempts
Howard
DPOY, All Defense 1st, All NBA 1st, 4th in MVP
18.3ppg...13.2rpg...1.8apg...1spg...2.8bpg

Miller
6MOTY
13.7ppg...5.4rpg...2.7apg...41% from 3 on 4.6 attempts
Williams
6ppg...1.5rpg...3.6apg...38% from 3 on 2.7 attempts
Anderson
4.9ppg...4.1rpg...1bpg

Space and Pace.

HAving one of the most athletic centers of all time surrounded by lethal shooters, 1 who is one of the best passers in NBA history, and 1 who had a historic scoring season.

FYI you need to use a Timberwolves season for Love, can’t use a Cavs season

Larry_Russell, please fix this. I believe you have enough flexibility to do so...

Yup. Done

[durantbird]

There were 4 items in your list. Here they are in random order:

Dr Positivity

durantbird

Laimbeer

Larry_Russell

IP: 2a02:14f:1:f1dd:61be:caee:e401:6ea1
Timestamp: 2022-05-17 05:35:34 UTC

SF #1: Dr Positivity vs durantbird
SF #2: Laimbeer vs Larry_Russell

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