Young Franchises Draft Play-in #2 - Fadeaway_J vs. Laimbeer*

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Young Franchises Draft Play-in #2 - Fadeaway_J vs. Laimbeer* 

Post#1 » by durantbird » Sat May 14, 2022 8:38 am

Here is a quick list of what you need in your writeup.

1. Specific years for each player on your team
2. Rotations and minutes for each player
3. Reasoning as to why your team will win and/or why people should vote for you.

Do not vote in this thread until both managers have submitted their writeups.

If writeups aren't posted within 24 hours, we will vote solely based on the players they have drafted (and any rotations they have posted on their roster page).

**First to 3 votes advances.**

Fadeaway_J wrote:

Laimbeer wrote:
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Re: Young Franchises Draft Play-in #2 - Fadeaway_J vs. Laimbeer 

Post#2 » by Fadeaway_J » Sat May 14, 2022 4:34 pm

Starters
C - Pau Gasol (2007-08)
Spoiler:
18.9 ppg, 8.4 rpg, 3.2 apg, 0.5 spg, 1.5 bpg, .538 FG%, .807 FT%, .639 TS%

PF - LeBron James (2012-13)
Spoiler:
26.8 ppg, 8.0 rpg, 7.3 apg, 1.7 spg, 0.9 bpg, .565 FG%, .406 3P%, .753 FT%, 103 3P, .640 TS%
- Led the NBA in PER (31.6), OWS (14.6), WS (19.3), WS/48 (.322), OBPM (9.3), BPM (11.7), VORP (9.9)
- NBA Champion
- NBA MVP
- NBA Finals MVP
- NBA All-Star
- All-NBA First Team
- All-Defensive First Team

SF - Nicolas Batum (2018-19)
Spoiler:
9.3 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 3.3 apg, 0.9 spg, 0.6 bpg, .450 FG%, .389 3P%, .865 T%, 116 3P, .581 TS%

SG - Desmond Bane (2021-22)
Spoiler:
18.2 ppg, 4.4 rpg, 2.7 apg, 1.2 spg, 0.4 bpg, .461 FG%, .436 3P%, .903 FT%, 228 3P, .592 TS%

PG - Jrue Holiday (2016-17)
Spoiler:
15.4 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 7.3 apg, 1.5 spg, 0.7 bpg, .454 FG%, .356 3P%, .708 FT%, 100 3P, .532 TS%

Bench
C/F - Serge Ibaka (2017-18)
Spoiler:
12.6 ppg, 6.3 rpg, 0.8 apg, 0.4 spg, 1.3 bpg, .483 FG%, .360 3P%, .797 FT%, 107 3P, .574 TS%

F - Luc Mbah a Moute (2013-14)
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3.5 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 0.6 apg, 0.5 spg, 0.2 bpg, .451 FG%, .235 3P%, .687 FT%, .503 TS%

F/G - Reggie Bullock (2021-22)
Spoiler:
8.6 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 1.2 apg, 0.6 spg, 0.2 bpg, .401 FG%, .360 3P%, .833 FT%, 141 3P, .558 TS%

Rotations
C - Gasol (38), Ibaka (10)
PF - Ibaka (22), James (18), Mbah a Moute (8)
SF - James (12), Batum (25), Bullock (11)
SG - Bane (36), Bullock (12)
PG - Holiday (38), James (10)

FGA Per Player
Spoiler:
LeBron James - 17.8
Pau Gasol - 13.5
Jrue Holiday - 13.3
Desmond Bane - 14.5
Serge Ibaka - 10.3
Reggie Bullock - 7.4
Nicolas Batum - 7.5
Luc Mbah a Moute - 3.0

Total: 87.3/88.0


It's the tried and true formula: LeBron plus spacing. Pau is the perfect second option as he can feed off LeBron's passing ability and scoring gravity as a finisher in the pick-and-roll, or create for himself and others out of the post. Jrue is the prototypical LeBron PG, a capable lead guard who can also function off ball. Bane is a lethal outside shooter who will feast as the #3/4 guy. Batum, Bullock, and late-prime Ibaka are all quality spot-up shooters.

Defensively, we have a number of switchable perimeter defenders between Jrue, LeBron, Batum, Bullock, and Mbah a Moute, while Pau and Ibaka are effective at the rim. Bane isn't as rangy as the others but is very solidly built and can hold his own against bigger players. The length and smarts of LeBron and Batum will allow us to protect the paint effectively even when playing smaller lineups.

Matchup
- Ibaka moves into the starting lineup here. While LeBron can certainly guard bigger players if necessary, we want to reduce the amount of time he has to spend doing so. Our spacing isn't significantly affected as Ibaka knocked down 106 threes on 36% shooting in the chosen season.
- To start with, Ibaka will take KAT and Gasol guards AD. In crunch time we will go small with LeBron guarding KAT. Jrue will spend the entire game glued to Penny. LeBron gets to rest on Posey/Bowen/Kleber for the majority of the game.
- With Jrue shadowing Penny, I think Laimbeer will run into some difficulties with shot creation. Miami Allen is purely a spot-up shooter, as is Posey. FVV is a fine backup but not someone who threatens you off the dribble either. We have a more balanced perimeter attack with LeBron, Jrue, and Bane, plus Pau who is an excellent passer out of the post.
- We will attack whoever KAT is guarding in pick-and-roll with LeBron as the ballhandler. Although he's improved, we're confident he will make defensive mistakes under that pressure and LeBron is a master at exploiting those.
- Allen is a major defensive liability who has no chance of guarding either Bane or Jrue.

Good luck Laimbeer.
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Re: Young Franchises Draft Play-in #2 - Fadeaway_J vs. Laimbeer 

Post#3 » by durantbird » Sat May 14, 2022 4:42 pm

Fadeaway_J needs to fix season for Jrue
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Re: Young Franchises Draft Play-in #2 - Fadeaway_J vs. Laimbeer 

Post#4 » by Fadeaway_J » Sat May 14, 2022 4:56 pm

durantbird wrote:Fadeaway_J needs to fix season for Jrue

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Re: Young Franchises Draft Play-in #2 - Fadeaway_J vs. Laimbeer 

Post#5 » by Laimbeer » Sat May 14, 2022 6:18 pm

Karl-Anthony Towns ( 2022 ) 16.4 -
Anthony Davis ( 2018 ) 19.5 -
James Posey ( 2006 ) 5.9 -
Ray Allen ( 2013 ) 8.2 -
Penny Hardaway ( 1996 ) 14.8 -

Fred VanVleet ( 2019 ) 9.4 -
Maxi Kleber ( 2021 ) 5.5 -
Bruce Bowen ( 2001 ) 7.1 -

86.8 / 88.0

Karl-Anthony Towns (38) / Anthony Davis (10)
Anthony Davis (30) / Maxi Kleber (12) / James Posey (6)
James Posey (24) / Bruce Bowen (24)
Ray Allen (28) / Fred VanVleet (20)
Penny Hardaway (38) / Fred VanVleet (10)

Good luck, Fade.

We have a lot of offensive talent in our starting lineup. Penny is one of the game's great points with two superb bigs and spacing in Allen and Posey (note all three bench players are shooters as well). AD will thrive against Pau's meh defense. Penny has a big size advantage over Holiday as well, so the matchups work in our favor.

Defensively, we match up pretty well AD/Gasol, KAT/Ibaka, Allen/Bane, Penny/Holiday. We're very fortunate to have two players well suited to guarding LeBron splitting time at the three - Posey and Bowen. AD will be closer to the basket against Gasol.

Our big three talent counters LeBron, as well as our bench, led by VanVleet, being better. Toss in the favorable matchups and we have the edge.
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Re: Young Franchises Draft Play-in #2 - Fadeaway_J vs. Laimbeer 

Post#6 » by Ryoga Hibiki » Sat May 14, 2022 7:27 pm

If he's ready to bench KAT in the fourth quarter and olay Kleber going for Laimbeer.
My high opinion of Penny is the difference maker.

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Re: Young Franchises Draft Play-in #2 - Fadeaway_J vs. Laimbeer 

Post#7 » by Dr Positivity » Sat May 14, 2022 7:55 pm

I think Lebron may be outgunned here with Laimbeer having 2 of the 3 best players in Penny and Davis, even if I like Gasol as much as KAT. I also think Laimbeer has the better bench with FVV as the creator Fadeaway doesn't have, and Kleber and Heat Bowen also solid. Vote Laimbeer.
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Re: Young Franchises Draft Play-in #2 - Fadeaway_J vs. Laimbeer 

Post#8 » by Larry_Russell » Sat May 14, 2022 8:08 pm

I vote laimbeer.

Pau is not defending kat and that is a big exploita le matchup.

Just a size advatange for them
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Re: Young Franchises Draft Play-in #2 - Fadeaway_J vs. Laimbeer 

Post#9 » by wackbone » Sat May 14, 2022 11:52 pm

Laimbeer has too much depth here while not sacrificing talent at the top. Obviously LeBron is the best player by a wide margin, but after that Laimbeer's guys take over. I wanted to vote Fade as I think he built a solid squad around the far and away best player in the series and his defense is likely better, but Laimbeer's offensive and depth advantages are too much.

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Re: Young Franchises Draft Play-in #2 - Fadeaway_J vs. Laimbeer 

Post#10 » by durantbird » Sun May 15, 2022 3:40 am

Laimbeer advances

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