Donut Draft Semi - Dr Positivity vs Fadeaway_J*

[durantbird]

Here is a quick list of what you need in your writeup.

1. Specific years for each player on your team
2. Rotations and minutes for each player
3. Reasoning as to why your team will win and/or why people should vote for you.

Do not vote in this thread until both managers have submitted their writeups. Please ensure you give a rationale for your vote; votes with no explanation will not be counted.

If writeups aren't posted within 24 hours, we will vote solely based on the players they have drafted (and any rotations they have posted on their roster page).

We'll be using a AI vote when a matchup seems stuck, at least 24 hours since its opening. AI vote counts for a single vote.

**First to 3 votes advances**

[Fadeaway_J]

Starters
C - Al Horford (2021-22)

Spoiler:

10.4 ppg, 7.7 rpg, 3.4 apg, 0.7 spg, 1.3 bpg, .467 FG%, .336 3P%, .842 FT%, 89 3P (1.3 pg), .574 TS%

PF - Giannis Antetokounmpo (2021-22)

Spoiler:

29.9 ppg, 11.6 rpg, 5.8 apg, 1.1 spg, 1.4 bpg, .553 FG%, .293 3P%, .722 FT%, 71 3P (1.1 pg), .633 TS%
- NBA All-Star
- All-NBA First Team
- All-Defensive First Team

SF - Kawhi Leonard (2018-19)

Spoiler:

26.6 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 3.3 apg, 1.8 spg, 0.4 bpg, .496 FG%, .371 3P%, .854 FT%, 112 3P (1.9 pg), .606 TS%
- NBA Champion
- NBA Finals MVP
- NBA All-Star
- All-NBA Second Team
- All-Defensive Second Team

SG - Kentavious Caldwell-Pope (2019-20)

Spoiler:

9.3 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 1.8 apg, 0.8 spg, 0.2 bpg, .467 FG%, .385 3P%, .775 FT%, 92 3P (1.3 pg), .584 TS%
- NBA Champion

PG - Kyrie Irving (2023-24)

Spoiler:

25.6 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 5.2 apg, 1.3 spg, 0.5 bpg, .497 FG%, .411 3P%, .905 FT%, 173 3P (3.0 pg), .608 TS%

Bench
C - Marc Gasol (2020-21)

Spoiler:

5.0 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 2.1 apg, 0.5 spg, 1.1 bpg, .454 FG%, .410 3P%, .720 FT%, 50 3P (1.0 pg), .606 TS%

F - James Posey (2007-08)

Spoiler:

7.4 ppg, 4.4 rpg, 1.5 apg, 1.0 spg, 0.3 bpg, .418 FG%, .380 3P%, .809 FT%, 106 3P (1.4 pg), .587 TS%
- NBA Champion

G - Alex Caruso (2022-23)

Spoiler:

5.6 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 2.9 apg, 1.5 spg, 0.7 bpg, .455 FG%, .364 3P%, .808 FT%, 55 3P (0.8 pg), .588 TS%
- Led the NBA in STL% (3.0)
- All-Defensive First Team

Rotations
C - Horford (33), Gasol (15)
PF - Giannis (38), Posey (10)
SF - Leonard (38), Posey (10)
SG - KCP (36), Caruso (12)
PG - Irving (38), Caruso (10)

FGA Per Player

Spoiler:

Kawhi Leonard - 18.8
Giannis Antetokounmpo - 18.6
Al Horford - 8.2
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope - 7.3
Alex Caruso - 4.3
James Posey - 5.6
Kyrie Irving - 19.5
Marc Gasol - 3.7

Total: 88.0/88.0

Standard Giannis build with awesome shooting at every other position, with the added wrinkle of Kawhi alongside him creating a dual matchup nightmare. Kyrie is the perfect third option: great floor spacer and off-ball player in general, good enough to take over offensively for long stretches, and has become great at pushing it in transition in his Dallas tenure, which dovetails nicely with Giannis. Horford and Gasol give us additional playmaking at the 5. Defensively, Horford affords us the option to play with more versatility than the real-life Bucks, and our 2 through 4 rotation is eyewatering. Kyrie also played some of the best defense of his career in the chosen season.

Matchup
- Defensive assignments are straight up. We have solid individual matchups at every position, and all our frontcourt players (except Gasol) can switch if LeBron is running pick-and-roll.
- While LeBron is the best player in the series, Giannis and Kawhi are well clear of anyone else in the pecking order. Giannis alone occupies the attention of two or three defenders, and Kawhi is going to cook anyone who can't match his strength and physicality. It's just a tough combo to deal with for a team with only two legit forwards in the rotation.
- Kyrie really benefits from being third in the opponents' scouting report here, as Nash surely can't guard him and Drexler isn't a particularly good option either.
- The shooting of Horford and Gasol makes it even tougher for Dr P to "build a wall" against Giannis.

Good luck Dr P.

[Dr Positivity]

PG: Steve Nash (2012: 9.0 FGA)
SG: Clyde Drexler (1992: 19.4 FGA)
SF: Paul George (2019: 21.0 FGA)
PF: Lebron James (2017: 18.2 FGA)
C: Tyson Chandler (2012: 5.7 FGA)

PG: Pablo Prigioni (2014: 2.9 FGA = 3.0)
SG: Manu Ginobili (2012: 8.4 FGA)
C: Marcin Gortat (2010: 2.8 FGA = 3.0)

87.7 / 88

PG: Steve Nash (38) / Pablo Prigioni (10)
SG: Clyde Drexler (18) / Manu Ginobili (30)
SF: Paul George (28) / Clyde Drexler (20)
PF: Lebron James (38) / Paul George (10)
C: Tyson Chandler (38) / Marcin Gortat (10)

GL Fadeaway

Defensive matchups: Drexler on Irving, Nash on KCP, George on Leonard, Lebron on Giannis, Chandler on Horford.

- We're trying size on Irving and even if it isn't ideal, Nash can have some success against Irving, and Lebron against Giannis as man to man D isn't his strength.

- I believe we have the more talented team pretty handily as if you said Lebron and peak Drexler playing the Wade role was at least close enough as a combo to Kawhi and Giannis, the talent falls in our favor after that with Nash, peak George and Chandler as starters vs Kyrie, KCP and 2022 Horford.

- Since this is the Lakers Gasol, I have the bench advantage with having by far the best 6th man in 2012 Manu meaning more than having a worse 7th man.

Our team should have solid chemistry on offense with Drexler and Lebron being fastbreak options for Nash and Chandler running pick and roll. Despite average Irving D, we otherwise have our defense at the right spots with two long athletes at SF and PF and Chandler being a perfect help defender against Giannis.

[durantbird]

Though one. I'll come back to this one later after thinking a bit more.

[Laimbeer]

This feels like the finals, tbh. The teams are loaded. I'm going with Dr P because his team makes more sense offensively. Kyrie wouldn't complement Giannis the way he would someone like LeBron and Kawhi's value gets lost a bit.

Vote - Dr P

[flaco]

I actually think Kyrie complements Giannis on offense (defense is another story). Giannis is a ball-dominant big. He doesn't rely on a ball handler to set him up. What he needs is a perimeter-oriented scorer who opens up the paint. Preferably a closer who can take over for him in the clutch. Kyrie fits the bill. I'd argue Giannis is the modern version of Shaq. Just give the ball to Shaq/Giannis and get out of their way.

I'm not a big fan of Kyrie's game, but the talent level is undeniable. At the very least, I think he's better than 37-year-old Nash. What stands out on Fade's team is his exceptional defense at the SF-PF positions. The Kawhi-Giannis combo is truly elite and should be able to slow LeBron down.

Dr P has a very talented team, but I'd argue Drexler would be out of his comfort zone being forced to play off the ball alongside LeBron and Nash. The deciding factor for me was the selected season for Nash. I think he was past his prime in 2012.

Vote: Fadeaway_J

[durantbird]

Totally disagree with Laimbeer's take that Giannis Kyrie don't fit and agree with flaco they are quite a perfect fit. Nash Clyde George LeBron Manu is pretty imposing, while Kyrie Kawhi Giannis is a lesser group of talent, but you should really take into account this is a pretty old Nash, and Manu is also not in his best version. In terms of cohesiveness I prefer Fade, his defense is much better and I'm not sure older Nash and Manu sway me. Sorry Dr P because your team is no doubt the most loaded in the format.

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[durantbird]

ChatGPT vote Fadeaway

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Spoiler:

Both teams are well-constructed, making this a tough matchup to analyze. Here's a breakdown of how the series could play out:

Key Considerations

1. Star Power:

Fadeaway_J's Team: Giannis Antetokounmpo and Kawhi Leonard form a dominant two-way forward duo. Kyrie Irving provides a strong offensive third option, and Al Horford adds versatility.

Dr Positivity's Team: LeBron James and Paul George are elite two-way wings, with Clyde Drexler as an athletic secondary scorer and Steve Nash as the floor general.



2. Defense:

Fadeaway_J: Strong defensive options at nearly every position, with Giannis, Kawhi, and Horford providing elite switchability and rim protection. Alex Caruso off the bench adds perimeter defense.

Dr Positivity: LeBron and Paul George are excellent defenders, and Tyson Chandler anchors the paint. However, Nash is a defensive liability against Kyrie.



3. Offense:

Fadeaway_J: Giannis in transition and Kawhi’s isolation play are major strengths. Kyrie’s ability to exploit mismatches as a third option is crucial. Horford and Gasol stretch the floor, creating space for Giannis to dominate.

Dr Positivity: Nash’s playmaking combined with LeBron and Drexler’s transition offense creates a dangerous fastbreak team. Paul George offers elite scoring, while Chandler and Gortat excel in pick-and-roll scenarios.



4. Bench:

Fadeaway_J: Gasol and Caruso are solid contributors, but James Posey is a minor downgrade compared to other options.

Dr Positivity: Manu Ginobili is the best bench player in this matchup, providing scoring, playmaking, and experience. Pablo Prigioni and Marcin Gortat are role players but do their jobs effectively.




Matchups

Giannis vs. LeBron: Both are elite, but Giannis is more dominant in this setting due to his defensive versatility and rim pressure. LeBron's leadership and playmaking could even the playing field.

Kawhi vs. Paul George: Kawhi has the edge in a playoff series due to his Finals MVP experience and clutch performances.

Kyrie vs. Nash: Nash is the better playmaker, but Kyrie’s scoring and ability to exploit Nash’s defensive weaknesses give him a clear advantage.


X-Factors

Fadeaway_J: Giannis’s ability to dominate inside, especially against a smaller rotation, and Kawhi’s efficiency.

Dr Positivity: LeBron’s playmaking and Ginobili’s impact off the bench.


Prediction

This series would likely go to seven games. Fadeaway_J's team has the edge due to:

The two-way dominance of Giannis and Kawhi.

Kyrie Irving’s ability to exploit mismatches and thrive as a third option.

Defensive versatility and spacing with Horford and Gasol.


Result: Fadeaway_J wins in 7 games. Giannis and Kawhi's dominance, coupled with Kyrie’s clutch scoring, slightly outweigh LeBron’s brilliance and Dr Positivity's deeper bench.

[Dr Positivity]

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