One Time Draft Play-In - Dr Positivity vs. Stan*

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Who would win?

Poll ended at Mon Jan 27, 2025 7:32 pm

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Stan
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One Time Draft Play-In - Dr Positivity vs. Stan* 

Post#1 » by Fadeaway_J » Sun Jan 26, 2025 12:53 pm

Here is a quick list of what you need in your writeup.

1. Specific years for each player on your team
2. Rotations and minutes for each player
3. Reasoning as to why your team will win and/or why people should vote for you.

Do not vote in this thread until both managers have submitted their writeups. Once the writeups are posted, I will add a poll, and the team with the most votes after 24 hours will advance. EACH MANAGER SHOULD ALSO VOTE FOR THEIR OWN TEAM IN THE POLL - IF YOU FAIL TO DO THIS, YOU ARE SIMPLY GIVING AWAY A VOTE. If the votes are tied, we will decide the matchup via AI vote.

You are not required to state or explain your vote, but you are free to comment in the thread if you want to.

If writeups aren't posted within 24 hours, we will vote solely based on the players they have drafted (and any rotations they have posted on their roster page).
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Re: One Time Draft Play-In - Dr Positivity vs. Stan 

Post#2 » by Dr Positivity » Sun Jan 26, 2025 5:00 pm

PG: Chris Paul (2017: 12.9 FGA)
SG: Devin Booker (2021: 19.2 FGA)
SF: Dan Majerle (1993: 13.4 FGA)
PF: Charles Barkley (1990: 14.9 FGA)
C: Brook Lopez (2019: 9.7 FGA)

PG/SG: Alex Caruso (2023: 4.3 FGA)
SF: Robert Covington (2021: 7.3 FGA)
C: Ben Wallace (2003: 6.0 FGA)

87.7 / 88

PG: Chris Paul (38) / Alex Caruso (10)
SG: Devin Booker (38) / Alex Caruso (10)
SF: Dan Majerle (38) / Robert Covington (10)
PF: Charles Barkley (38) / Ben Wallace (6) / Robert Covington (4)
C: Brook Lopez (34) / Ben Wallace (14)

Defensive matchups: Paul on Cooper, Booker on Miller, Majerle on Mullin, Barkley on Giannis, Lopez on Porzingis

We're living with Barkley/Giannis matchup, as I think our team is stronger overall as he is a perimeter player short in my opinion with two role players at PG beside Miller and Mullin, the difference in talent between Paul, Booker and Majerle perimeter vs Cooper, 00 Miller and Mullin is significant. We can put a lot of pressure on his offense to create with Paul and Caruso guarding Cooper and I don't trust Giannis as primary playmaker. Big Ben gets some time on Giannis and we'll even try the Ben/Lopez frontcourt a bit. Since this is 2000 Miller that matchup is not as bad and I believe his defense on Booker on the other end gets the worst of it. His bench is solid but I believe Ben gives us the leg up and with only two bigs against a lineup of Barkley, Lopez and Wallace and Hedo all his minutes at PF we can beat him up on the glass. Giannis is asked to do a lot in this matchup guarding Barkley, playing backup C and being a playmaker.
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Re: One Time Draft Play-In - Dr Positivity vs. Stan 

Post#3 » by Stan » Sun Jan 26, 2025 7:02 pm

Roster
2021 Giannis: 18
1990 Mullin: 16.3
2000 Reggie: 12.9
2024 Porzingis: 13.2
1984 Michael Cooper: 6.7
2003 Bowen: 5.8
2010 Hedo: 9.1
2021 Beverley: 5.9

Rotation
Cooper (36) Beverley (12)
Reggie (36) Bowen (12)
Mullin (36) Bowen (12)
Giannis (26) Hedo (22)
Porzingis (36) Giannis (12)

Dr. P has a solid team, but I feel like I would have a couple clear advantages in this matchup. One, I think Giannis is a huge mismatch for this team, Barkley would have no chance of guarding him, if Lopez goes to help you'd have Porzingis all alone for 3 or to create his own offense. On the flipside, while I don't think you can fully stop Barkley, Giannis could definitely make things more difficult for him, which would put a huge burden on Booker to produce the majority of the teams buckets/

I also don't think he quite has the scoring prowess to match mine. I have 2 25+ ppg scorers, 4 20 ppg caliber scorers, one more than his, and his bench, while very stout defensively, genuinely adds zero scoring or offensive punch, when his second unit is in the game he's going to have a very difficult time producing effective offense.
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Re: One Time Draft Play-In - Dr Positivity vs. Stan 

Post#4 » by Fadeaway_J » Sun Jan 26, 2025 7:33 pm

JimmyPlopper wrote:.

Stan wrote:.

Larry_Russell wrote:.

Laimbeer wrote:.

Snakebites wrote:.

flaco wrote:.

wackbone wrote:.

Dr Positivity wrote:.

Ready for votes. Dr P and Stan, please vote for yourselves as well.
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Re: One Time Draft Play-In - Dr Positivity vs. Stan 

Post#5 » by Fadeaway_J » Sun Jan 26, 2025 7:45 pm

Dr Positivity wrote:PG: Chris Paul (2017: 12.9 FGA)
SG: Devin Booker (2019: 19.2 FGA)
SF: Dan Majerle (1993: 13.4 FGA)
PF: Charles Barkley (1990: 14.9 FGA)
C: Brook Lopez (2019: 9.7 FGA)

PG/SG: Alex Caruso (2023: 4.3 FGA)
SF: Robert Covington (2021: 7.3 FGA)
C: Ben Wallace (2003: 6.0 FGA)

87.7 / 88

PG: Chris Paul (38) / Alex Caruso (10)
SG: Devin Booker (38) / Alex Caruso (10)
SF: Dan Majerle (38) / Robert Covington (10)
PF: Charles Barkley (38) / Ben Wallace (6) / Robert Covington (4)
C: Brook Lopez (34) / Ben Wallace (14)

Defensive matchups: Paul on Cooper, Booker on Miller, Majerle on Mullin, Barkley on Giannis, Lopez on Porzingis

We're living with Barkley/Giannis matchup, as I think our team is stronger overall as he is a perimeter player short in my opinion with two role players at PG beside Miller and Mullin, the difference in talent between Paul, Booker and Majerle perimeter vs Cooper, 00 Miller and Mullin is significant. We can put a lot of pressure on his offense to create with Paul and Caruso guarding Cooper and I don't trust Giannis as primary playmaker. Big Ben gets some time on Giannis and we'll even try the Ben/Lopez frontcourt a bit. Since this is 2000 Miller that matchup is not as bad and I believe his defense on Booker on the other end gets the worst of it. His bench is solid but I believe Ben gives us the leg up and with only two bigs against a lineup of Barkley, Lopez and Wallace and Hedo all his minutes at PF we can beat him up on the glass. Giannis is asked to do a lot in this matchup guarding Barkley, playing backup C and being a playmaker.

What year of Booker is this supposed to be? Because it's not 2019.
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Re: One Time Draft Play-In - Dr Positivity vs. Stan 

Post#6 » by Dr Positivity » Sun Jan 26, 2025 7:56 pm

Fadeaway_J wrote:
Dr Positivity wrote:PG: Chris Paul (2017: 12.9 FGA)
SG: Devin Booker (2019: 19.2 FGA)
SF: Dan Majerle (1993: 13.4 FGA)
PF: Charles Barkley (1990: 14.9 FGA)
C: Brook Lopez (2019: 9.7 FGA)

PG/SG: Alex Caruso (2023: 4.3 FGA)
SF: Robert Covington (2021: 7.3 FGA)
C: Ben Wallace (2003: 6.0 FGA)

87.7 / 88

PG: Chris Paul (38) / Alex Caruso (10)
SG: Devin Booker (38) / Alex Caruso (10)
SF: Dan Majerle (38) / Robert Covington (10)
PF: Charles Barkley (38) / Ben Wallace (6) / Robert Covington (4)
C: Brook Lopez (34) / Ben Wallace (14)

Defensive matchups: Paul on Cooper, Booker on Miller, Majerle on Mullin, Barkley on Giannis, Lopez on Porzingis

We're living with Barkley/Giannis matchup, as I think our team is stronger overall as he is a perimeter player short in my opinion with two role players at PG beside Miller and Mullin, the difference in talent between Paul, Booker and Majerle perimeter vs Cooper, 00 Miller and Mullin is significant. We can put a lot of pressure on his offense to create with Paul and Caruso guarding Cooper and I don't trust Giannis as primary playmaker. Big Ben gets some time on Giannis and we'll even try the Ben/Lopez frontcourt a bit. Since this is 2000 Miller that matchup is not as bad and I believe his defense on Booker on the other end gets the worst of it. His bench is solid but I believe Ben gives us the leg up and with only two bigs against a lineup of Barkley, Lopez and Wallace and Hedo all his minutes at PF we can beat him up on the glass. Giannis is asked to do a lot in this matchup guarding Barkley, playing backup C and being a playmaker.

What year of Booker is this supposed to be? Because it's not 2019.


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Re: One Time Draft Play-In - Dr Positivity vs. Stan 

Post#7 » by Laimbeer » Sun Jan 26, 2025 9:59 pm

Doc, I'm afraid you aren't going to live with Barkley on Giannis, You're gonna die with it. :lol: And with Lopez drawn out it's no bueno.

Stan has done a great job loading up with shooters around Giannis. Building a f****** wall against that lineup would be tough. Doc may have a slight overall talent edge but that match-up is just too ugly.
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Re: One Time Draft Play-In - Dr Positivity vs. Stan 

Post#8 » by Snakebites » Mon Jan 27, 2025 1:01 am

Not enough is being made of the playmaking advantage Dr P has here.

The Barkley/Giannis matchup is tough but so is one of Mullin or Reggie having to guard either Booker or CP3, particularly with the help defense either drawn out by Brook or focused on containing Barkley.

Too much being asked of Giannis here to be the lead playmaker and defender on prime Barkley.

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Re: One Time Draft Play-In - Dr Positivity vs. Stan 

Post#9 » by Dr Positivity » Mon Jan 27, 2025 1:43 am

It's a poll draft if either of you missed it
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Re: One Time Draft Play-In - Dr Positivity vs. Stan 

Post#10 » by durantbird » Mon Jan 27, 2025 7:35 am

Dr Positivity wrote:It's a poll draft if either of you missed it

Comments are still encouraged though. I just hope they cast their votes in the poll too.
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Re: One Time Draft Play-In - Dr Positivity vs. Stan 

Post#11 » by Snakebites » Mon Jan 27, 2025 4:28 pm

Yes I voted.
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Re: One Time Draft Play-In - Dr Positivity vs. Stan 

Post#12 » by Fadeaway_J » Mon Jan 27, 2025 4:32 pm

Laimbeer wrote:Doc, I'm afraid you aren't going to live with Barkley on Giannis, You're gonna die with it. :lol: And with Lopez drawn out it's no bueno.

Stan has done a great job loading up with shooters around Giannis. Building a f****** wall against that lineup would be tough. Doc may have a slight overall talent edge but that match-up is just too ugly.

I think Stan has defensive issues of his own with that wing pairing, and not enough creation at the guard spots.
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Re: One Time Draft Play-In - Dr Positivity vs. Stan 

Post#13 » by Fadeaway_J » Mon Jan 27, 2025 8:00 pm

ChatGPT Vote: Stan

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This is an intriguing matchup between two well-constructed teams. Let’s break down the key factors and give a prediction based on your analysis.

Key Strengths of Dr Positivity’s Team:
Defensive Depth: Dr. P has a lot of elite defenders—Paul, Caruso, Majerle, Barkley, and Lopez—who can create a stifling defense. The defensive matchups are strong, with Paul and Caruso on Cooper, Booker on Reggie, and Majerle on Mullin. This allows for an effective scheme to slow down Stan's high-powered offensive players.

Rebounding: The combination of Barkley, Lopez, and Wallace presents a formidable frontcourt. With two players who are great rebounders and a big presence in Wallace to help defend Giannis, Dr. P’s team could dominate the glass.

Perimeter Playmaking: Chris Paul as the floor general is a big factor in this matchup. His ability to create plays, control tempo, and get others involved will be essential. Booker as a dynamic scorer can exploit Reggie Miller’s defense and help carry the offensive load.

Key Strengths of Stan’s Team:
Giannis as a Mismatch: Giannis is the X-factor here. His combination of size, athleticism, and playmaking will be tough for Dr. P’s team to handle. Barkley has no chance of guarding Giannis one-on-one, and even with help from Lopez or Wallace, Giannis can still stretch the floor, attack the basket, and be a force in transition. His ability to cover multiple roles as both a scorer and playmaker could be decisive.

Offensive Firepower: Stan has several high-scoring options in Giannis, Mullin, Reggie, and Porzingis. His team has more offensive firepower than Dr. P’s, especially in terms of versatility. While Dr. P has great defense, Stan’s squad has more dynamic scoring threats. Reggie Miller and Mullin can both shoot the three at a high level and provide space for Giannis, while Porzingis brings a versatile offensive game that could keep Lopez or Wallace busy.

Depth of Scoring: While Dr. P’s team is solid overall, Stan has more consistent scoring depth, especially with Giannis, Mullin, Reggie, and Porzingis. The defensive-minded bench players like Bowen, Beverley, and Hedo, while not offensive juggernauts, offer enough support to keep the team competitive in minutes where the scoring load is lighter.

Weaknesses:
Dr Positivity: His bench is more defensive-focused, which may limit offensive efficiency when key players are resting. This could be a problem against Stan’s higher-scoring bench, as Caruso, Covington, and Wallace won’t provide much scoring punch. This could be a potential swing factor in games where the starters are off the floor.

Stan: While Giannis can do a lot, there’s concern about whether the rest of the offense can step up enough in a seven-game series. Miller and Mullin are sharpshooters, but they might struggle against Dr. P’s defense. There’s also the question of whether Porzingis can deliver consistently enough on both ends of the floor to make up for the defensive liabilities in the frontcourt.

Conclusion:
This is a tough one to call, but based on the overall depth and balance of both teams, Stan’s team might have a slight edge in a seven-game series. The combination of Giannis as a matchup nightmare, the offensive firepower with Mullin, Porzingis, and Reggie, and the ability to space the floor might just outlast Dr. P’s solid defensive schemes. While Dr. P’s defense and rebounding will certainly keep games competitive, Stan’s offense has more tools to break down the defense over a series.

Prediction: Stan in 7 games. Dr. P’s defense will make it close, but ultimately, Stan’s high-scoring offensive players and Giannis’ all-around dominance will be the deciding factors.

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