Hubie Brown Draft Semi - wackbone* vs durantbird

[durantbird]

Here is a quick list of what you need in your writeup.

1. Specific years for each player on your team
2. Rotations and minutes for each player
3. Reasoning as to why your team will win and/or why people should vote for you.

Do not vote in this thread until both managers have submitted their writeups. Once the writeups are posted, I will add a poll, and the team with the most votes after 24 hours will advance. EACH MANAGER SHOULD ALSO VOTE FOR THEIR OWN TEAM IN THE POLL - IF YOU FAIL TO DO THIS, YOU ARE SIMPLY GIVING AWAY A VOTE. If the votes are tied, we will decide the matchup via AI vote.

You are not required to state or explain your vote, but you are free to comment in the thread if you want to.

If writeups aren't posted within 24 hours, we will vote solely based on the players they have drafted (and any rotations they have posted on their roster page).

[durantbird]

PG: Walt Frazier 1970 - 12.8 with multiplier
SG: Kyrie Irving 2015 - 16.5
SF: Andre Iguodala 2012 - 10.2
PF: Elton Brand 2002 - 12.6
C: Wilt Chamberlain 1967 - 12.1 with multiplier

Bench - G/F: Desmond Bane 2022 - 14.5
Bench - F: Jonas Jerebko 2014 - 3.3
Bench - F/C: Dennis Rodman 1990 - 6.0

88/88

PG: Walt Frazier (38), Kyrie Irving (10)
SG: Kyrie Irving (26), Desmond Bane (22)
SF: Andre Iguodala (30), Desmond Bane (8), Jerebko (8), Rodman (2)
PF: Elton Brand (26), Dennis Rodman (22)
C: Wilt Chamberlain (38), Elton Brand (10)

Vs

Chauncey Billups (38) / Sidney Moncrief (10)
Sidney Moncrief (28) / Kyle Korver (20)
Robert Covington (32) / Kyle Korver (16)
Giannis Antetokounmpo (38) / PJ Tucker (10)
Marc Gasol (32) / Tyson Chandler (16)

We've got crazy depth. Chamberlain-Frazier provide elite leadership as our one two punch, Kyrie-Iggy-Brand complete a 5 All Star lineup, with Bane and Rodman forming an elite bench, one is an elite offensive sub and the other an elite defensive sub (DPOY year). Kyrie's elite off-ball game is going to thrive alongside Frazier and Chamberlain. Wilt, Frazier, Iggy, Rodman form an insane defensive core. All-Star Iggy also excels from 3 in the given year.

Matchup:
- Defensive assignments: Frazier vs Billups, Iggy vs Moncrief, Kyrie vs RoCo, Brand/Wilt vs Giannis, Wilt vs Gasol.
- We match up well here. Frazier and Iggy take their two best backcourt engines, Brand is a tough physical defender to put on Giannis with Wilt waiting at the rim. We'll also try some Wilt as the man to man defender vs Giannis. Rodman off the bench is also a great option against Giannis.
- I like the fit of Wilt and Clyde as our main guys and Kyrie fits better alongside them as compared to Moncrief alongside Billups Giannis. Brand provides a better fourth offensive option compared to Gasol.
- wack has a great bench as always, but I like our depth with Bane and DPOY Rodman even more. Chandler plays limited minutes behind Gasol while Rodman can fit alongside more diverse lineups.

[wackbone]

Giannis Antetokounmpo - 2019 - 17.3 FGA - MVP, All-NBA 1st, 2nd in DPOY, All-Defensive 1st, All-Star
Marc Gasol - 2017 - 15.7 FGA - 38.8 3P% on 3.6 att, All-Star
Sidney Moncrief - 1984 - 14.2 FGA - DPOY, All-Star, All-NBA 2nd, 8th in MVP Voting
Chauncey Billups - 2006 - 12.5 FGA - 43.3 3P% on 5.2 att, All-Star, All-Defensive 2nd, All-NBA 2nd, 5th in MVP Voting
Robert Covington - 2018 - 10.5 FGA - 36.9 3P% on 6.9 att, All-Defensive 1st
Kyle Korver - 2015 - 8.0 FGA - 49.2 3P% on 6.0 att, All-Star
Tyson Chandler - 2012 - 5.7 FGA - DPOY, All-Defensive 2nd, All-NBA 3rd
PJ Tucker - 2023 - 3.0 FGA - 39.3 3P% on 1.9 att

86.9/88 FGA

Chauncey Billups (38) / Sidney Moncrief (10)
Sidney Moncrief (28) / Kyle Korver (20)
Robert Covington (32) / Kyle Korver (16)
Giannis Antetokounmpo (38) / PJ Tucker (10)
Marc Gasol (32) / Tyson Chandler (16)

Writeup:

Helluva team as always db, best of luck.

Defensively we will start with Moncrief on Frazier, Billups on Kyrie, Covington on Iggy, Giannis on Brand, and Marc on Wilt. Tyson Chandler is another DPOY guy off the bench.

We have no holes defensively, and only one guy on the entire team that's not great-elite defensively. We have an elite defensive frontcourt with Giannis, Marc, Chandler, and (to a lesser extent) Tucker. This will make life difficult for Wilt and Brand. db has a super talented group but with Brand and Wilt both being paint-oriented, both Frazier and 2015 Kyrie at their best with the ball, and Iggy not being a reliable 3 point shooter, I do think there are some fit concerns.

Offensively Billups and Moncrief share primary ball-handling duties, Giannis is the focal point of the offense, Marc provides 3 point shooting and passing, Covington (and to a lesser extent Tucker) are 3&D, Korver is one of the best shooters of all time, and All-NBA 3rd Chandler provides another lob threat down low. We will make sure Gasol is always on the court with Giannis, meaning of Chandler's 16 minutes only 6 will be with Giannis. Billups, Covington, Gasol, and Korver all space the floor at a high level, allowing more room for Giannis to operate against Brand. Wilt is an elite defender down low but Marc's 3 point shooting and high level passing for the position, less post up offense, might make him a bit uncomfortable, and importantly will drag Wilt away from the basket and provide more space for Giannis to drive.

[durantbird]

Poll is open to vote. Wack, please vote for yourself

[MadNESS]

I already voted on this and can’t help move it along…

[wackbone]

I already voted on this and can’t help move it along…

Just waiting for db to do the AI vote

[durantbird]

ChatGPT vote wackbone

Spoiler:

This is a tight series, but I'd give wackbone's team the slight edge in a seven-game series. Here's the breakdown:

Defense & Matchups

durantbird's defense: Wilt anchors the rim, Frazier is a great on-ball defender, and Rodman off the bench is a defensive ace. Iggy is solid on the perimeter, and Brand is physical but not a great Giannis stopper.

wackbone's defense: Moncrief and Billups are elite guard defenders, Covington is strong on the wing, and Giannis is a DPOY-level disruptor. Gasol and Chandler form an elite rim-protecting duo.


Wackbone has better overall defensive coverage. Moncrief on Frazier is tough, Billups can stay with Kyrie, Covington neutralizes Iggy, Giannis will suffocate Brand, and Gasol has the strength to battle Wilt.

Offense & Fit

durantbird’s offense: Wilt is the primary interior scorer, Frazier is a high-level playmaker, Kyrie provides perimeter scoring, and Brand is a secondary post scorer. The issue is spacing—Kyrie is the only real floor spacer, as Iggy's 3-point shooting was only solid but not elite in 2012. This allows wackbone's elite defensive frontcourt to pack the paint and make life tough for Wilt and Brand.

wackbone’s offense: Giannis is the focal point, with elite floor spacing from Billups, Covington, Gasol, and Korver. The ability to pull Wilt out of the paint with Gasol's 3-point shooting is crucial—it clears the lane for Giannis' drives.


Wackbone's offense is more dynamic, with better floor spacing and better ball movement.

Bench Play

durantbird's bench: Rodman is elite defensively, Bane is a great offensive spark, but Jerebko is a weak link.

wackbone's bench: Korver provides elite shooting, Chandler is a great defensive big, and Tucker is a solid 3&D guy.


Wackbone’s bench has a slight edge due to Korver's shooting and Chandler’s presence.

Final Verdict

Durantbird's team has a historic big three with Wilt, Frazier, and Kyrie, but their lack of spacing plays into Wackbone’s elite defensive frontcourt. Giannis has a clearer path to success with better spacing and ball movement. The difference-maker is Gasol pulling Wilt away from the paint, and the defensive discipline of wackbone's team.

Prediction: Wackbone wins in 7 games, 4-3.

wackbone advances