GM a Dynasty - 2000 Voting

[BlackIce]

Voting time.

Everyone update rosters.

Post your ranking here 1 to 14 with a brief writeup for the top 3.

[CellarDoor]

Are we ranking ourself? (Frankly I don't remember if we had 14 or 15 teams)

[BlackIce]

Sorry 1-13 don't rank yourself.

[jcldallas24]

1.San Antonio-Because he has an All star Team as his Starting Lineup
2.Toronto-Has a young good defensive core with Mourning as its defensive anchor.
3.Indiana-Very good veteran team.
4.Portland-Deep All around
5.Lakers-Good young team that starts two unknown players in Lewis in Miller
6.LAC-Young up and coming team
7.Minnesota-Shaq and Diddy are good starting points for a team, still young though.
8.Detroit-All they need is depth
9.Boston-Good team but too young.
10.Chicago-Young team with good players in Brand and Allen.
11.Orlando-Just flat out horrible.

[CellarDoor]

The rosters aren't up to date I don't think. Wasn't there a TMAC trade?

And JCL, Prime Grant Hill, Prime Gary Payton, Past Prime Patrick Ewing and an assortment of roleplayers are the worst team in the league? You're insane.

[SamBone]

Sorry 1-13 don't rank yourself.

We have 12 teams so do not rank yourself and rank 1-11 (brief explaination for top 3)

Please update roster info
- Toronto please delet TMac and add the guys you got for him (artest)
- Minni update salaries for the contraction guys you drafted)
- Bulls please list depth chart so we know what your lineup is

For future years hopefully everyone can list games played ans stats for players. With injuries and stuff it is needed to know what type seasons these guys had (I know good stats do not make good teams all the time, but injuries and knowing when guys had great seaons or became good are very important) (use SA, Indiana and Clippers roster page as examples)

[SamBone]

The rosters aren't up to date I don't think. Wasn't there a TMAC trade?

And JCL, Prime Grant Hill, Prime Gary Payton, Past Prime Patrick Ewing and an assortment of roleplayers are the worst team in the league? You're insane.

agree 100% that Det is not the worst team, but please do not rip people for the votes they summited. dallas was first to post and should be thanked for that, not ripped. He may have his own personal fealings for his vote, but since it is a public vote, please do not rip people or they will be afraid to vote. Also can we think of a way to punish teams that do not bother to vote? Since the rankings (for championships and draft picks) is soo important everyone needs to vote.

Also ICE when is the deadline for voting? I am working on mine now and will try to post tonight, but when is the deadline?

[CellarDoor]

The rosters aren't up to date I don't think. Wasn't there a TMAC trade?

And JCL, Prime Grant Hill, Prime Gary Payton, Past Prime Patrick Ewing and an assortment of roleplayers are the worst team in the league? You're insane.

agree 100% that Det is not the worst team, but please do not rip people for the votes they summited. dallas was first to post and should be thanked for that, not ripped. He may have his own personal fealings for his vote, but since it is a public vote, please do not rip people or they will be afraid to vote. Also can we think of a way to punish teams that do not bother to vote? Since the rankings (for championships and draft picks) is soo important everyone needs to vote.

Also ICE when is the deadline for voting? I am working on mine now and will try to post tonight, but when is the deadline?

If the commish wants to outlaw it, feel free. I'm just trying to stop the all too common habit of glancing at someone else's rankins and going with it. Detroit's not close to being the worst team in the league.

Also, I'll vote once the rosters are up to date.

[SamBone]

If the commish wants to outlaw it, feel free. I'm just trying to stop the all too common habit of glancing at someone else's rankins and going with it. Detroit's not close to being the worst team in the league.

agree 100 %. teams should take the time to actually look at the teams.

PS: Cellar could you you your powers to move these posts to the discussion board so this is only votes

[CellarDoor]

Again, up to BI. Personally, I think discussions on it are perfectly legit. Really I'd have everyone write a sentence or two for why each person is where they are. For instance: I'd love to know the separator between me and Indy. I'd also like to see reasoning for a couple other middle round choices.

[jcldallas24]

Yeah Sorry lol Detroit shouldn't be last i just never saw his full roster i jjust took a glance, and posted it quickly my class was almost over.

[BlackIce]

Deadline is Wednesday.

I agree some basic stats for starters and maybe 6th man (not making people do every player) would be helpful but not required because I'm sure everyone won't do it.

I'm fine with questioning other peoples votes it forces GM's to make their votes carefully and really think it over. No need to move anything I can go back later and find the votes.

GUYS UPDATE ROSTERS! If people can't bother to vote and update rosters in a reasonable time limit I'm going to scrap the game. It's hard enough with something of this magnitude but if people are popping in like once a week it won't work. I understand people have lives and priorities, things come up. Just be reasonable.

I think that's it. I am withholding my vote until rostes are updated as well. Sambone will be helping me commish if I'm not around direct questions to him.

[Dwightmare]

Orlando Magic

1 - San Antonio - is an explanation really necessary?
2 - Indiana - A solid rotation that seems to be peaking at the same time.
3 - Toronto - Good young team with an explosive back court and defensive front court.
4 - Portland - Deeper team than the Lakers.
5 - LA Lakers - Incredible 1 - 2 punch. Likely contender for the next decade.
6 - Minnesota - Shaq with shooters, a good vision by the GM.
7 - LA Clippers - Nice balanced roster with great leader.
8 - Detroit - Good veteran team.
9 - Boston - Deeper team than Dallas.
10 - Dallas - AI and Dirk are another very good 1 - 2 combo going forward.
11 - Chicago - Up and coming young team that's still missing a few pieces.

[SamBone]

1. Indiana: well balanced, well built, and deep
2. LA Clipps: way under rated, very good team and well balanced
3. Portland: DEEP is not giving them justice
4. Boston: Spree PP and Toine is alot of fire power with defensive ESnow and Big Ben is nice team
5. Tor: nice team
6. Detroit: Glove, Stack and superstar GHill is solid
7. LA Lakers: up and coming team with Kobe and KG but starting 2 unknowns in BMiller and Shard
8. Minni: Shaq is arguably the best player in the NBA with BDiddy
9. Bulls: Bibby, R.Allen, Tmac and Brand, big future
10. Dallas: needs some help but has 2 superstars in AI and the young German
11. Orlando: looking to score big in free agency and draft. literally starting from scratch

[SamBone]

Guy remember rankings are due tonight

[CellarDoor]

1. San Antonio, obviously. The twin towers are scary for teams without six guys to defend them
2. Indiana, frankly i'm surprised they're getting ranking pretty accurately here. Great depth, a bit of an undersized frontcourt, but for this season you can't argue with the talent.
3. Toronto, Artest isn't quite to form yet, but VC is, and they've got a lot of compliments around them. The one concern for me is shooting.
4. Clippers, great team. I'm again a little concerned about shooting, but Kidd was able to lead a team to the finals using absolutely no prolific shooters (VC is good to be sure though), so even with just the one deadeye (Finley) he's in good shape.
5. Detroit, prime Hill may go underrated, but he was in the argument for best player in the league. Add in Stack, prime GP and Ewing and depth is the only thing keeping them from climbing a bit further.
6. Boston, there's not a lot of defense here just yet. Wallace hasn't exploded, Spreewell was overrated in that dept, and Pierce and Walker were both doormats back then, but you can't deny the offensive firepower.
7. Minnesota, I couldn't put prime Shaq any lower. The team is unbalanced, but Shaq and Davis are going to win you some games
8. Lakers, frankly I'd like to rank them higher to keep Kobe and KG from getting a high pick, but neither one of them is at their peak yet. Rashard and co. are coming along, but they don't have a lot of experience here just yet. In a few years watch out though.
9. Bulls, Absolutely frightening next year, but currently Bibby's a bit young, TMac is a year aware from exploding.
10. Dallas, When your two best players are atrocious on defense it's tough to win games. Then again, when your two best players are the best scoring guard and PF of the decade, it might not be so hard.
11. Magic, no one needs an explanation here.


Note: Minny please update your depth chart.

[MadNESS]

1 - San Antonio - Clearly best team.
2 - Indiana - Clearly 2nd best team
3 - LA Clippers - Great starting 5.
4 - Toronto - Young and still able to compete.
5 - Detroit - Almost all main players are in there primes.
6 - Portland - Rediculous big men. enough said.
7 - Minn. - Good players surrounding Shaq.
8- Boston - Good starting cast. Young bench... just not "those" players yet.
9- Dallas - A.I. with Dirk is crucial, need ALOT more defense if those are you main 2 peices.
10 Chicago - YOUNG. very talented though.
11- Orlando - if they dont get the 1st pick, this game is screwed up.

[MadNESS]

8. Lakers, frankly I'd like to rank them higher to keep Kobe and KG from getting a high pick, but neither one of them is at their peak yet. Rashard and co. are coming along, but they don't have a lot of experience here just yet. In a few years watch out though.

thats exactly what i was going for, your a good GM to notice that.

[BlackIce]

Voting

1 - San Antonio - incredible team, twin towers surrounded by a very nice team and bench depth
2 - Indiana - I was afriad they'd be overlooked Webbers passing game on this team is very nice, was close for me for 1st but they are easily 2nd
3 - LA Clippers - Underrated and great balance with and elite defensive C and PG.
4 - Toronto - I loved the Artest trade and combined with the defensive frontcourt and Carter my himetown team has a bright future and are very good right now
5 - Portland - Deeper as ****. I love their frontcourt, nice mix of youth and vets.
6 - Minnesota - Shaq. Decent supporting cast but really needed moer depth. Still have the most dominant player in the league.
8 - Detroit - Good veteran team but lacking depth, I like what they put around Hill though and Payton was a great pick.
11 - Chicago - Young team with a bright future. Scary team soon.
5 - LA Lakers - Incredible 1 - 2 punch but supporting pieces are very young.
10 - Dallas - AI and Dirk are great offensive players but other then that not much on the team. Good future perhaps, nice picks stashed away oversea's.
11 - Orlando - rebuilding

[CellarDoor]

While I like what LA's done...is no one concerned about their scoring? Or their depth? I'd like to hear some arguments for justification of them over any of SAS, Indy, Toronto and Portland.

They've got Rahim, who was a volume scorer on pretty low percentages for a big man on atrocious teams...think worse rebounding ZBo. Odom has always been talented to the max, but never overly impressive, and with a guy like Kidd running the show, his lack of shooting is going to seriously, seriously clog the lane (to be fair, he's been a pretty good cutter his entire career, so if the floor is spread, he should see some RJ type looks around the basket) Finley is probably underrated by some, does anyone think he can be a number one option on a top 3 team in a 12 team league?