v. BlackIceBI, you've once again built a fantastic team built around strong morals. I think this is the first time we've faced eachother in this competition? And I know, in order to be the best, you must beat the best, and have the utmost respect for the team that you've built. Should be a great matchup, and as always, may the best team win, which my team fully intends to do so.
TMACFORMVPPG - Nash (35) - Ray Richardson (9) - Wade (4)
SG - Wade (32) - Johnson (16)
SF - Artest (30) - Rodman (14) - Johnson (2)
PF - McHale (32) - Rodman (16)
Cc - Jabbar (38) - Ruland (10)
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BlackIcePG - Thomas - Arenas - Snow
SG - Battier - Finley - Bell
SF - Pippen - Kirilenko - Battier
PF - Brand - Parish - Kirilenko
Cc - Olajuwon - Parish
In a matchup like this, there will be a lot of myths, and it's for me to debunk those myths. Skipping a boring introduction, we'll get right into it:
- Hakeem Olajuwon will dominate this matchup?"Kareem is past his prime, and Olajuwon's three year peak is godly." The former may be true, possibly overstated, but Kareem can most certainly keep up with Hakeem in this series. Over their year averages, Kareem averages nearly 25 points, and 10 rebounds per game, while being an elite defensive anchor on ridiculously efficient shooting from the floor.
In their match-ups post 1986, Jabbar in even his older days (this during a time in which Kareem failed to score twenty points per game, grab seven boards, or block two shots per game). Hakeem's stats are as follows (86-89):
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21.8 points per game, 3.0 assists on .475 shooting from the field (13 games)
One could argue that, this is not Hakeem's prime yet, which is true, but again I'd have to reiterate that this Kareem is not even close to the Kareem that I possess. The Kareem defending Hakeem in this set of games, has three year season averages as follows; 14.1 points per game, 5.7 rebounds on nearly 52% from the floor. So in that case, Kareem's 15/6 on 57% from the floor against Hakeem wouldn't serve as something that hurts me, but in fact another tool on my side that showed Kareem stepped up his game when facing Hakeem even when he was 40-41 years old.
The Kareem I have, is still an MVP of the league, 3rd in voting the next year, has a three year adjusted average of three blocks, ten rebounds, and twenty five points per game, on over 58% from the floor. He was an elite defender, both weakside, and on rotations. It's harder to get any better than that production. Hakeem may be better, but he won't dominate anyone in this series, the stats show an older Kareem can hold his own, imagine what an MVP Kareem would be able to do. If anything, I'd expect a standstill in this matchup.
- Isiah Thomas will have his WAY with Nash?In this series, Steve Nash will not be guarding Isiah Thomas.
We will put Dwayne Wade on him, he's quick enough to chase him around the perimeter, and has the size, and shot-blocking ability to contest Isiah's mid-range jumper, or shots in the paint. He won't shut him down, but considering Isiah wasn't a threat from behind the arc, he relied heavily on his finishing ability, and mid-range jumper to get his points off. With Wade's size, he should be able to contest that much better than at least Steve Nash can. Not too mention, young Isiah, the one being used in this series, doesn't have that "clutch," reputation for which he's known for now. So the
Isiahs 26 point outburst in the 3rd to win game 6 of the NBA Finals stated in BlackIce's writeup would not have occurred, not to mention, that's not factually correct, as the Pistons went on to lose that game despite Isiah's heroics.
And let's not forget Thomas wasn't the most efficient PG, as we noted, he didn't shoot the three well, was a mid 45% shooter from the field. In a league in which efficiency is so noted, and considering Thomas is nothing spectacular defensively, his flaws get more closely examined. That's why in these competitions, while I'd consider Isiah a greater individual than Stockton, in a competition like this, it's much closer.
But then the question bods, who is Steve Nash guarding.
Nash would guard, Finley, or Battier, doesn't matter who starts. If it's Battier, he's not a threat offensively, and merely a spot up shooter. If it's Finley, his role is the same, he's used as a spot up shooter as well. If BlackIce would choose to exploit this matchup, we trust in our help/interior defense with the likes of Wade, Kareem, McHale, Rodman, or Artest, and at times Ray Richardson to recover on Finley's move and force him into a tough shot.
The main reason we can also afford to do this is the lack of spacing found on BlackIce's team. If Finley were to try to attack Nash offensively, and our help defense steps in, Finley doesn't have the option to kick out a shooter, because neither Isiah, or Pippen were ultra reliable from behind the arc, definitely far less efficient than other spots of the court.
If you choose Battier, the more the better, he's strictly a spot up shooter, and all Nash will have to do defensively is cover the perimeter. Battier isn't the type to run off screens like a Miller, or Allen, he's strictly a spot up shooter, with favorite spots on the floor. He's never been a good playoff performer, and it only helps cover our weakness on the defensive end even further. BlackIce has informed he would be starting Battier, but could be subject to change. Regardless of who it is, we feel we have the defensive strategy and gameplan to affect that combo effectively.
As of now, it seems Battier is the starter, both from word, and from the writeup against Miller, but our defensive strategy doesn't change all that much if it's Finley instead.
Noticing BlackIce's writeup, he mentions as Pippen as one of the top shooters in the league. That would be a false statement, the hike in three point percentage would be soley due to the fact the three point line was shortened during those years, and otherwise returns to a streaky, volume three point shooter at roughly 30-32% from distance, hardly one of the best, in fact, rather inefficient.
- Rebounding An Edge For BlackIce?Let's get this out of the way, Brand averages more rebounds than McHale, and Hakeem averages more rebounds than Kareem. That doesn't mean, my team lacks in rebounding, especially with our weapon off the bench, arguably the greatest rebounder of all time, definitely the best in this game, in Dennis Rodman.
Before we get into the stats, let's also not forget, McHale's roughly nine rebound per game average was with two other double digit rebounders in Larry Bird, and Robert Parish. Since, there are no three year averaged out stats for BI's team, and I'm lazy to do that, I'll take the best rebounding seasons, of both of our players.
Jabbar - 10.8 rebounds / 15.4 rebound rate
McHale - 9.9 rebounds / 14.0 rebound rate
Rodman - 18.7 rebounds / 26.2 rebound rate
Olajuwon - 13.0 rebounds / 18.7 rebound rate
Parish - 12.5 rebounds / 20.0 rebound rate
Brand - 11.6 rebounds / 17.3 rebound rate
36.6 / 56
It's hard to determine, considering, I'm yet to know BI's minute rotation, but considering the rebound rate is nearly exactly the same, and my trio of rebounders produce greater statistics in terms of raw numbers, you can see rebounding in the frontcourt isn't an issue.
Not to mention, judging from his writeup, that will be his three man rotation receiving all the minutes, while in my rotation I have not included Jeff Ruland for the 10 minutes Kareem wouldn't be on the floor, and since his rebound per game average is 12.3, with a rate of 17.4, for those ten minutes, Kareem would be replaced by a BETTER rebounder, which would overall gain a net production in terms of rebounding, and rebound rate, making the gap further.
Pippen is certainly a better rebounder than Artest, but BI does not use the season in where he's consistently over eight boards per game. It includes one of those seasons, and two years, at roughly 6.5 rebounds, which is Artest's three year average.
Pippen - 8.1 rebounds / 12.5 rebound rate
Artest - 6.5 rebounds / 10.1 rebound rate
The edge, still goes his SF position, but again, with the edge in the frontcourt, and the sort of decline Pippen sees in the next two years of the three years chosen would make the gap slower. And besides, with Rodman playing nearly 18 minutes at the SF position, the overall position of edge in terms of rebounding, easily goes to us.
Wade - 5.7 rebounds / 8.7 rebound rate
Finley - 5.8 rebounds / 8.4 rebound rate
Roughly the same, a wash, even though, once again, Wade is more consistent with his averages of over five per game, while Finley falls off the next two seasons, with a rebound average of under five per game, more like 4.5. In terms of the bench, it's Battier/Bell versus Joe Johnson. Battier is a solid rebounder, Bell isn't particularly impressive, but JJ with his best season, is comparable with Battier, like Wade/Finley, virtually the same statistics, keeping this position a wash.
Nash - 4.2 rebounds / 6.6 rebound rate
Thomas - 4.5 rebounds / 6.1 rebound rate
Then off the bench, is Arenas (4.7 / 6.5%) versus Ray Richardson, who has noted above has moved into the rotation (6.9 / 10.8%), the gap between the PG rebounding widens even more, and in this case, by a semi-reasonable margin.
55.8 rebounds / 81.0 rebound rate
55.0 rebounds / 83.0 rebound rate
So overall, in terms of basic raw numbers, our team grabs more rebounds, while BI's has a slightly higher rebound rate. But when you factor in Nash is substituted for a much greater rebounder in Ray Richardson, and Kareem, the same when Ruland comes in, the total amount of rebounds raises in our favor, and the rebound rate even comes into our favor. The only place, in which his team gets the higher rebound rate on the data shown above is Pippen/Artest matchup, in which I explained the flaw in that stat, and the fact, that Rodman would be playing both the SF, and PF position.
Our team grabs more rebounds, with adjusted stats has a higher rebound rate, and possess the best rebounder among both teams. At worst, what some might feel is a lack of rebounding, our team obviously has no such flaw, in fact a slight advantage.
- DEFENSIVE/OFFENSIVE COMPARISONAny team, with both Hakeem, and Pippen should likely have the overall edge defensively. I feel in this case, that's not true. To counter that defensive tandem, we present Kareem Abdul Jabbar, and Ron Artest. BI's combo has the edge, especially considering we're not using Artest in his absolute defensive peak but we feel our duo is close enough to a defensive impact, that the rest of our roster outweighs, the lack of defense compared to BI's roster.
*Note to also watch out for, is Artest's role with the Lakers, will be the role he has on this team. While, he was still an All-NBA defensive team member with the Rockets, anybody's that compared the two, has noticed, Artest is playing considerably better defense with the Lakers. He's fighting harder through screens, and using his toughness to bully his opponents. It's no coincidence, the Lakers are the #1 ranked defensive FG% team in the NBA this season.
Anyway, back to the rest of the roster's defensive comparison:
Brand is an OK defender relative to his era, but he's not on the level of McHale. I'd go on to say Elton isn't even a starter in these sort of competitions. McHale will have his way both offensively and defensively. McHale is often credited for possessing the best offensive moves in the post, when compared to any other PF in the game. He has a peak season of 26 points per game, on over 60% from the floor. He's an elite defender, that has the size and shot-blocking to defend the bigger PF's, but the quick rotations to defend the SF's, as that was often the case, with Bird switching onto PF's, and McHale guarding the opponents best SF.
In this competition, Brand doesn't have an identity, he does nothing great, but to be fair, nothing poor as well. The knock on him though, his stats have always been on terrible teams, making it hard to measure his impact To further hit the nail on this point, BI is not using his best year, in which he was an All-Star/All-NBA player and one of the top finishers in MVP Voting, but most importantly experienced his best team success. McHale on the other hand consistently put his stats, on far more efficient shooting (nearly 60%), on much more dominant teams, including the 85-86 Celtics, widely considered to be the greatest team of all time.
The key to our team is our defensive versatility, with Rodman coming off the bench, we possesses an even greater defensive asset than Scottie Pippen impacts the game. Both can defend multiple positions, but Rodman was the most versatile defender, or at least with Bobby Jones to have ever played. I remember, watching the 88' Finals, and Rodman was covering Magic for the majority of the time. Then on a switch off, he went and guarded Kareem. In a matter of minutes, despite his size, and weight, he went from defending Magic Johnson, to guarding Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. With that versatility, and tenacity on that end of the floor, Rodman also provided GOAT offensive rebounding, and in general the best rebounder in this game.
We have more ways to attack his main offensive weapons. With Brand being checked by McHale, and Battier being a starter, we're comfortable with our matchups at those positions. Covering Hakeem will be Kareem, and as shown above, he's been as effective as anyone, in fact outplaying him, while Kareem was 40 years old. In this series, he's a 32 year old MVP of the league. Pippen will be covered by Artest. Pippen could score, but he was never a player that could dominate a series with his ability to put a team on his back. Even when Jordan left, Pippen experienced only a slight raise in his points per game. We feel confident, with Artest ability to at least make Pippen less efficient from the floor. Especially in this scenario where Pippen is trying to be sold off as an elite floor spacer, which has already been disproved.
We will have Wade on Isiah for majority of the time, but even our defensive flexibility could allow us to put Rodman on him for stretches. Again, having options and flexibility is very important in these types of competitions.
Finley isn't particularly a good defender, especially in an all time sense where all the teams are so talented. Battier is a good defender, but he can be prone to the post up, and that's been PROVEN against Ron Artest. I actually don't feel this move, really improves his team defensively. For someone who's seen Battier's games all of the past couple of seasons (including watching one while I write this), one player that dominated us, was Ron Artest.
In the time frame, we're both using for Battier, and Artest. Here's their head to head stats:
(note, it's only two of these players seasons, as both were teammates, for the third season of the three year peak that we are both using)
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34 points, on 11-18 shooting, 4-6 from three.
39 points on 12-23 shooting, 5-7 from three.
10 points on 2-14 shooting, 1-4 from three.
26 points on 9-20 shooting, 1-6 from three.
30 points on 11-20 shooting, 2-2 from three.
17 points on 7-17 shooting, 3-4 from three.
30 points on 12-26 shooting, 4-7 from three.
64/138 shooting, and 20/36 threes made.
26.5 points per game, on .463 shooting from the field, and .555 from distance.
It looks like Artest just became a bigger offensive weapon than I thought. I remember, as a Rockets fan, myself, and many others, were more scared of facing Ron Artest, and the Kings, than facing like LeBron and the Cavaliers. Battier has struggled with stronger players, and Artest has shown that, in fact been a prime example during the exact same seasons chosen. In case your interested, they faced off again this season, and Artest dropped 22 points on 8-16 shooting, and 3-5 from distance. He routinley kills Battier, and I'd expect the same here. And with Finley not being a good defender himself, especially on the lowblock, or from the perimeter, I'd expect Artest to have a rather big series.
As Kareem won't completely stop Hakeem, the same will be the case with Olajuwon guarding Kareem. We've even seen, shown by those statistics above, that an older Kareem went above his season averages, when he faced Hakeem. It'll be an epic matchup, between two centers that are dominant on both ends of the floor, as I stated, more likely to result in a standstill in terms of production and impact on the series.
I've already gone over the McHale/Brand matchup, won't go into much more detail over that. We've already said, we're switching Nash off onto the wingman, as we're not really scared of Battier, or even Finley coming off the bench. The key is here, BI's team does not possess the same defensive versatility we do, thus forcing Isiah to guard Nash.
Isiah was a good pick pocket, but in terms of individual man defense, he had a lot of help from Dumars, Rodman on the perimeter, with guys like Laimbeer, Mahorn, and others inside. Nash will have a big series, Isiah has the quickness to stay with him, but it was not always a concerted effort. If Isiah can't stop Nash, that means one of the greatest offensive players to have ever played the game, and yes, one of them is Steve Nash will have the freedom to operate.
Wade will be guarded by Pippen, one of the greatest perimeter defenders of all time. He'll have his handful, and should reduce his overall effectiveness. I'd just like to say though, he won't shut him down, you don't shut down, or completely take out of the picture great players. And Dwayne Wade is a great player, he's a Finals MVP, still more efficient than most guards of this era, or in fact all time, and is smart in getting to the line. He'll still find ways to score, make plays, and compete defensively. And down the stretch, there are few better. When we're talking about defense against great offensive player, we can only hope to "contain," them, and that will be Pippen's job in this series.
RE: In terms of the Parish/Hakeem lineup, it doesn't really change our defensive strategy. Kareem would remain on Hakeem, and we're comfortable with McHale guarding Parish. It's virtually the same thing in this scenario.
In a competition like this, efficiency is supreme. Fact of the matter is, Isiah is not the most efficient PG, Finley shoots in the lower 40%, as does Battier, though both are efficient three point shooters. Pippen who's being described as a floor spacer, in reality is not, those numbers being inflated from the three point line being shortened during the chosen seasons. Otherwise, he is in fact, an inefficient shooter from long range.
Brand is decently efficient, as is Olajuwon, but NEITHER compare to their counterparts in that department, when we're talking about Jabbar, and McHale, both having seasons of over 60% from the floor. Nash is one of the most efficient guards of all time, from everywhere on the floor (look at those numbers, 45% from three, 90% from the line, and nearly 52% from the field). Wade gets himself to the line, and a majority of his shots, are good ones, from mid-range and in the paint. Artest is the only one with subpar efficiency, but he's exactly like Finley, or Battier in that regard (who are BI's more efficient perimeter players), as Artest is in fact a very efficient three point shooter, on a large volume of makes.
With teams this talented, and less shot attempts to go around, being able to maximize those possessions, especially when facing an elite defense is important. Our team is CLEARLY more efficient, rather not even close, making us more prone to beat their defensive gameplan, while our defensive versatility far greater has an ability on their offensive players, because of the versatility as mentioned, and the lack of efficiency noted as well.
- CONCLUDING THOUGHTSOverall, BlackIce has built a great team. But one without the defensive versatility ours possesses, nor the efficiency from every position on the floor. In these competitions, defense, and efficiency wins. If a team wins in both categories, with similarly talented players (in this case, that's the truth with Hakeem/Kareem, and Nash/Isiah), that team is going to prevail. Our better defense, by the numbers, and through our versatility, slightly better rebounding, MUCH more efficient offense, our team should prevail. We have adequate, and multiple options to attack BI's weaknesses, while I feel they don't have those same quality to attack our weaknesses.
As a result, the team I've created should come out the winner, in a close series. Once again BI, may the best team win.